A Man's Right to Choose

kingsmuse · 2013-03-20T14:00:43+00:00

I don't agree a man should have power over whether or not a woman endures a pregnancy to birth his child I do believe that he should have the same choices financially she does in her decision.

If she decides she wants the child and he does not he's under no obligation at all to support that decision financially or in any other manner.

It's the only equitable way to deal with it.

DrRam121 · 2013-03-20T13:55:08+00:00

While I agree with the writers point about having say in keeping a baby against the mother's wishes, I think he misses the point about his friend. If his friend does not want the baby, he should be off the hook for it. I don't understand how women can opt out, but men can't. Worse than that, he never states the obvious that a comparable situation for his girlfriend in this case would be if he could force her to have the child, gain full custody and force her to pay for child support.

WN5h · 2013-03-20T12:25:24+00:00

It comes down to this. If women are going to have universal control of their bodies than men should to. A man should have the option of not paying financially, financially aborting if you will, any child that he sires just like a woman has the right to abort any child that begin growing in her body. If we do recognize the potential of the child such that a father can place an injuction against a woman who persues an abortion, than financial obligations would be impossible to avoid because at this point the rights would be essentially equal. Personally I prefer the fromer because it allows the greatest level of freedom. Men who will suffer can simply find another parter in the case that the woman decides to abort, and if they just don't want the child, don't need to worry about the financial burden. Women still retain full control over their bodies.

almightybob1 · 2013-03-20T21:59:00+00:00

I completely disagree with his conclusion. Biology dictates that the woman has to have the ultimate choice on whether or not to abort. I would be completely against the kind of legislation he's proposing. It might be unfair, but tough shit, that's biology for you. Would you be happy with a woman getting an injunction preventing you from having a vasectomy?

Now where we can make things more equal is in the financial side. If a woman doesn't want the financial burden of a child, she has control - she can abort it, or give it up for adoption, or drop it off somewhere they take in kids no questions asked. If a man doesn't want the financial burden of a child, he has to hope the woman doesn't either, because if she wants to keep it he's shafted. This is not fair, and something we can change, unlike biology.

2013-03-20T15:30:17+00:00

This could be a huge grapple point for the MRM if it's approached correctly. The inequality and hypocrisy has to be intentionally suppressed to continue with the status quo.

Thanks for posting it OP.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-03-20T20:03:55+00:00

I dont agree we should be able to tell a woman she has to keep the child. I would simply emphasise that if its a womans body and her choice, then she should have to take MORE responsibility for what happens to it than men.

notsoinsaneguy · 2013-03-20T14:42:38+00:00

Do people not understand what child support is for? The point is to support the child. Raising a kid as a single mother is not an easy thing to do. Given that many single mothers are below the poverty line, I personally would rather have the biological father pay than have the state pay for it.

Women have the shitty card when both parties agree and when both parties disagree. Being the one who has to carry a baby around inside yourself sucks, as is being the one who has to actually get an abortion. Asking men to get the shitty hand in the instance where there is a disagreement does not seem to be that big a deal when contrasted with the burden that women have to bear in the vast vast majority of cases where both parties agree.

Title	A Man's Right to Choose
Author	colonize_this
Upvotes	42
Comments	50
Date	March 20, 2013 8:44 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/1anjc8/a-mans-right-to-choose/
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