A question.

pnw_diver · 2015-11-09T01:05:09+00:00

People who weren't alive before the internet are sometimes unaware of pre-internet history. Shorter: millenials sometimes think the world began with them, and don't like to hear otherwise.

PierceHarlan · 2015-11-09T01:07:21+00:00

This nation has a shameful history of treating rape as so heinous an offense that too many people don't even regard innocence as a defense. http://www.cotwa.info/2010/05/feminists-tap-into-america-tradition-of.html

besaolli · 2015-11-09T01:25:51+00:00

Through much of human history rape was much more common than it is today, but it was always a serious crime.

TheRavenousRabbit · 2015-11-09T08:16:44+00:00

In 800's Sweden, it was illegal to rape your female thralls. (Thralls are essentially slaves but with the right to live with their family.) If you raped your female thrall you were subject to punishment under the law.

Even Vikings thought that rape in their homeland, even to Thralls, was not called for. To say that rape was not considered a heinous crime until recently is historical illiteracy at best.

thegrimraeper · 2015-11-09T04:57:31+00:00

Rape today isn't the same as it was for our parents. Rape today is more what I would call "consensual rape," whereby you have consensual sex but later decide it was rape. With today's improvements in policing technology, they've already locked up all the non-consensual rapists and murderers, so it's only natural that they would move on to the consensual ones.

rg57 · 2015-11-09T07:08:14+00:00

I think what they're referring to is that rape used to be a property crime. If you used another man's females, that was a serious property crime, and might also be an attack on political power, if the children of rape inherited something they weren't entitled to.

For a while, rape became about harm and violence and violation. It was regarded next to murder because, like other aggravated assault, what happened could be next to murder.

Now it's about consent. Everyone is a victim, and perpetrator. The punishment remains the same, even though nearly any act can basically be framed as rape.

yoshi_win · 2015-11-09T01:40:54+00:00

Wives were expected to be subservient (sexually available anytime) to husbands at least until JS Mill penned On the Subjection of Women in 1869. Industrialization and WWI were major factors undoing that system.

Title	A question.
Author	LesFuries
Upvotes	16
Comments	13
Date	November 9, 2015 12:59 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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