Advice?

a-man-from-earth · 2023-03-18T13:38:58+00:00

"I don't want to talk about this, because you always end up being rude to me."

dovanius · 2023-03-18T13:38:21+00:00

Stop trying to fix the relationship with your sister while she is being rude. She is the cause the relationship is getting bad. It's not your fault. Let her fix it.

Next time she gets personal you end the discussion and tell her you won't talk to her if she keeps attacking you personally.

"You asked my opinion about this, so here it is. If you don't like it fine, but if you get personal or make accusations I won't continue this discussion with you. Do you understand?"

Make sure you ask this question and let her respond. Most likely it's rolling eyes and she walks away with 'whatever'.

Better learn early that women rarely take responsibility or accountability for anything these days and blame men for all the bad things that happen without giving appreciation for the good thing men do.

Anyway, if it's one thing women don't like it's being ignored. Ignore her until she treats you with respect.

Now don't expect any miracles though. My older sister was a huge narcissist and she was brought up in the 90's. I can't imagine how insufferable sisters would be in today's woke circus.

Digger_is_taken · 2023-03-18T13:56:04+00:00

Don't engage with people while they are being rude. Set firm boundaries of what behavior you are willing to tolerate and what you are not. This will serve you well in life.

If she agrees to a thoughtful conversation, you need facts. You need to read the academic research on the subject, and understand how to criticize it.

Most feminist research is absolute crap. But you need to know how to show your work getting there. Here is a great example that fits your situation perfectly.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14680777.2014.882373

This is the quality of the studies that feminists use to demonstrate that women are harassed online. Go ahead and read it and we can discuss exactly what's wrong with it if you'd like. It doesn't exactly stand up to scrutiny.

Character_Pirate_618 · 2023-03-18T18:45:42+00:00

You came to the right place. I can help you. It's called 'shaming tactics'. Look up 'shaming tactics'. It's a big deal. You should know how to deal with shaming tactics. Shaming tactics are ubiquitous. They're used to get you to act against your own best interests. They're a psy op grift.

jokerfriend6 · 2023-03-18T17:18:13+00:00

Just don't engage with her discussion if she try to engage and change the subject. There is nothing you say to her that would change her mind.

throwawayddf · 2023-03-18T13:24:17+00:00

Do or did you have a good relationship with her and do you want to keep that?

Za__guy · 2023-03-18T16:13:19+00:00

I think you should talk about while calm and talk logically

At the end be clear to mention that you talked to her with respect but she was asshole, be cleer on that (doesn't matter who won the argument tell her she was an asshole if she was)

She's human have a feeling and conscious regardless of brainwashed or not

GaySexXTREME · 2023-03-19T10:46:24+00:00

im going to paste a response from askfeminists

replace the genders

"Particularly as a woman, there's nothing you can do. He's made his choice and he has to be the one to unmake it. But he's not going to listen to a woman; primarily because he's adopted an incredibly misogynistic world view. The more you try and argue your point the more convinced of his own position he will become.

I'd say it's time to distance yourself from baby bro."

Special_Hawk_3587 · 2023-03-19T13:14:12+00:00

Wisdom at 14. Bravo You are right Facts Logic Information

Is it true ? Katie byron questions are ace imo. Check it out Check out NVC You will thrive. I aim to learn about it

Don’t try to change your sisters naive mindset

Think deeper - Your sister is passionate and angry about females that have been abused , bullied , assaulted, etc Good for her. That’s awesome. You could highlight logically where you agree with her and where you commend her;,

“I think it’s wrong if any female or male is abused by a male or female It’s great you are passionate and care about people and this issue so much.

I think it’s wrong if any female or male lies about being abused by a male or female. I am passionate about that because I care about people too just like you.

I love you sis Hugs ? “

Just an idea !

If that don’t work Sister is beyond help! Maybe for now. Maybe forever. Maybe family therapy or chat with parents will help. Good luck. Trust your gut.

Best way to not argue , sometimes is to say “ you could be right”

The serenity prayer is ace Check it out And I don’t do church

caem123 · 2023-03-18T17:16:11+00:00

There is ZERO that you can say to her. The more words you use, the more excited she becomes. Learn the term "stoicism" and reflect on it as an approach.

GeheimerAccount · 2023-03-18T20:44:20+00:00

It's just in the way you communicate it...

Instead of: I dont belive any rape victim until I have decisive proof

Say: I dont know enough about this to judge, but if it happened its not ok of course

It's the same thing, just the second one is a lot more respectful. I dont think you should believe all victims, but that doesnt mean you should assume its staged.

GeheimerAccount · 2023-03-18T17:12:58+00:00

I'd tell her to stop being silly...

Standard-Broccoli107 · 2023-03-18T14:38:36+00:00

People here are absolutely right- dont engage when people are being rude. I just want to add why: If you let someone be rude to you then A- they will learn that its accepted and B- you will learn to accept it. You are what you do, and if you let yourself be mistreated this will continue.

Act like the person you want to be.

Free_Office_4400 · 2023-03-18T16:16:36+00:00

My sister's are hard-core feminist bs disciples too lol the trick is you gotta decide if it bothers you or not. I really don't care personally. I Jab at em sometimes just for fun but by and large they're my sisters whether they're dumbasses or not lol

Perfectly-Not-Wrong · 2023-03-18T19:08:57+00:00

Collect a list of examples where Men are abused by women and compare the volume and how people reacted to that news as well. Ask your sister why is it that when Men are abused a lot by women and still no one cares but when women are abused its being exaggerated and made a big deal.

If she still doesn't acknowledge or accept it, never mind. You can't do anything about it.
Because, it means Feminists / Feminism already conquered her mind.

Relevant-Ground101 · 2023-03-19T01:41:48+00:00

Same issue just with my mother

Salonimo · 2023-03-19T04:55:01+00:00

Show her the other side, if she ignores/ do not aknowledge, make weird claims or idk, tell her how she hates men and things of that sort. you can find a lot of material on this subreddit

_No_Pain_No_Gain · 2023-03-19T08:48:18+00:00

Be firm and tell your sister to Grow up, Get a Grip, drop her Victim Mentality and Start thinking Rationally.

Man-splain · 2023-03-21T03:30:13+00:00

Logic is gibberish to women...it's all about their feels

Title	Advice?
Author	doggoneDoge666
Upvotes	18
Comments	30
Date	March 18, 2023 1:08 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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