Boys have equal ability but discrimination affects their scores

_WutzInAName_ · 2025-01-16T00:11:09+00:00

Yep, boys tend to do better than girls on objective tests, but teachers’ subjective biases against boys when it comes to grading have been demonstrated over and over, in study after study, in country after country. The real elephant in the (class)room is anti-male discrimination.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09645292.2023.2252620#d1e123

“Contrary to the general belief that teachers may be biased against female students (Ceci et al. Citation2014; Tiedemann Citation2000), most of the studies have found that the gender gap is against male students. Teachers’ pro-female bias has been documented in several countries and educational contexts, including Czech Republic (Protivínský and Münich Citation2018), France (Terrier Citation2020), Israel (Lavy Citation2008; Lavy and Sand Citation2018), Italy (Casula and Liberto Citation2017), Norway (Falch and Naper Citation2013), and the United States (Cornwell, Mustard, and Parys Citation2013).”

Present_League9106 · 2025-01-15T23:57:44+00:00

I want to like Reeves because he does push back on things like the use of "toxic masculinity," but I wish he'd be more even handed when he's presented with data like this. He claims it's not a feminist "plot" to make boys do poorly in school, yet they seem to definitely have a gender bias. What's the difference? Feminism has been creating this gender bias whether or not it's a "plot."

walterwallcarpet · 2025-01-16T06:29:29+00:00

Back in the days where differences in M/F abilities weren't biased by being filtered through feminism, it was obvious that boys showed higher abilities in mathematical reasoning, scientific aptitude and pattern recognition. In the tests, which had a maximum score of 800, the boys prevailed in these ratios.

1.5 to 1 on scores of 420+ / 2 to 1 on scores of 500+ / 4 to 1 on scores of 600+ / 13 to 1 on scores of 700+ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/001698628202600208

Those sex differences became even more pronounced as the sexes mature. Testosterone is found to enhance visuo-spatial skills, while oestrogen depresses them. Differences in higher mathematical abilities therefore become more marked on reaching maturity.

Obviously, this is not to the liking of feminism. The wail of the time was 'biological determinism'. This didn't sound sexist enough, so has now been replaced by the tag of 'neurosexism', in order to shut down discussion. They want to open up STEM to women. So, objective truth must fall by the wayside. The biased marking of papers is just the beginning of a lifelong process of fucking up every system that men have built.

Have some insight into this. Worked in STEM for three decades. Quit when my projects were being sequestered to prop up the failing 'careers' of the quota brigade, and wasn't the only man to do so.

That company doesn't even exist any more. So yes, the system is being levelled.

Levelled to the ground.

walterwallcarpet · 2025-01-16T08:00:16+00:00

Jean Piaget was a pioneer in the field of cognitive development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Piaget

His view, unsexist at a time where it was expected that men should make lifetime provision for women, was this. "The principle role of education is to create men who are capable of doing new things, not simply repeating what other generations have done - men who are creative, innovative and discoverers."

https://www.creativitypost.com/article/the_educational_value_of_creative_disobedience

Time went by, and feminism gained a grip. These people are serious about their mission. Any inbuilt male advantage must be discouraged and demonized. So, instead of encouraging imagination in the classroom, the predominately female teaching profession insist on systems where conformity to female-defined 'norms' is required, within teaching environments which are increasingly ideological and dogma driven. Establishing systems which favour female learning preferences is only one aspect. Then, if all else fails, bias the results, and label boys as disruptive. It seems strange that disruptors are valued in science and technology, opening new ways of achieving things. But denigrated in the classroom where they should 'sit still and learn'. Learn how to do things the girls' way.

Future innovators will find themselves dosed with Ritalin.

Excellent_You5494 · 2025-01-16T00:18:30+00:00

Reeves replaced Farrell as Feminism's Trojan horse.

rabel111 · 2025-01-16T01:47:23+00:00

I started collating and comparing NAPLAN data for boys and girls, but have not had time to complete. Preliminary view suggested boys and girls start school with very similar language apptitude, but increasing over time lagged further behind.

It seemed the more exposure boys had to our female dominated education system, the less well they performed, even in objective tests?

Significant_Oil_3204 · 2025-01-16T09:34:06+00:00

Men and women learn differently. I’d like to see children taught to their personalities (more dynamically?) rather than a one size fits all (no-one?) mentality.

Top_Row_5116 · 2025-01-17T06:58:18+00:00

Kinda unrelated but during my English class in college last year, we were doing research papers on populations of marginalized students that have difficulties in school. I was assigned with two girls who wanted to do it on Latino students while I wanted to do it on impoverished students. Honestly I just wanted to do the project alone cause screw people. Anyways, we were having difficulty narrowing the lens when the teacher said "I'm gonna give an example and I don't wanna offend anyone but studies show that men have difficulty in pursuing higher education and often test poorer than their female peers." Wtf do you mean you don't wanna offend anyone??? Have we gotten that screwed up as a society that the idea of men having it hard is offensive to people???

Title	Boys have equal ability but discrimination affects their scores
Author	StripedFalafel
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Date	January 15, 2025 11:19 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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