UPDATE:
I did some research, and found this powerpoint from the Ministry of Justice. It disputes the argument that women are more likely to offend...on the bottom right, you'll see the rates for reoffending is higher for males (31%) than females (23%)
So that that argument is based on statistics that aren't even true. Either way, still a poor argument IMO.
I'd like to expand on this post, on the new program to spare female offenders from prison in London. I think it's a sign of a very troubling situation in the government on London, and an egregious example of enforced social inequality. It's a real world example of men being created as second class citizens under law, with harmful potential consequences.
It's worth noting that the London Deputy of policing and crime, Sophie Linden, is self identified feminist who tried passing a 1000 pound fine for being homeless, in an area where the vast majority of the homeless are male (because homeless men are denied housing as they are considered 'less vulnerable).
This is a blatant discrimination and indefensible inequality. It is creating a separate justice system for men and women where a man is automatically treated worse simply for being male. It is direct inequality under law- this is something feminists are directly supporting, so they can't say "we help men to" or that they support equality, this is directly the opposite of equality.
The program is called The Female Offender Diversion Project pilot, here is the city government release on it
This is creating a two-tiered justice system where a male and female offender are automatically treated differently simply for their gender. The arguments given are very illogical and really don't hold up:
Research found women more likely to reoffend than men after a short sentence
So why is this a justification for morelenient treatment? This makes absolutely no sense as a reason,. If anything, if males were more likely to re-offend, it would be said that they deserve harsher punishment because of it.
And it's likely that female offenders offend more because they receive more lenient treatment to begin with. This has been the standard legal practice in the UK for over a year...so wouldn't it make sense that the group that knows they face less consequences would be more likely to re-offend? This article is an example of that, a woman repeated arrested for shoplifting saying she does it over and over again because the consequences are so minor.
The move to help 1,000 female criminals over the next two years has been launched by London Mayor Sadiq Khan after research found women are more likely than men to be sent to prison for a first-time offence.
This is extremely unlikely to be true, given the above...in fact, it's impossible...it's actually the law to exempt women from prison for minor offenses, and has been for a year...there is absolutely no way female offenders are more likely to be sent to prison for a first offense than male offenders. I would like to see that data publicly. Even so, it's not a justification for a separate and distinct legal system.
Shoplifters, drug users, thieves and low-level offenders will instead be referred to specialist services for help with mental health problems and substance abuse.
But if the issue is to address factors like mental health and substance abuse, why make it a gendered program? Why not make it a program that focuses on mental health and drug offenses? The argument that women are "more likely" to be affected by those things doesn't hold water, because under this program, a woman who isnt affected by one of these factors still benefits from the program, while a man who is affected wouldn't, simply for his gender. There's no sense in making it a law that treats gender as an absolute. In fact, doesn't so is blatantly discriminatory. To grant 50% of the population automatic immunity from prison for theft is absurd.
A lack of a women’s prison in London means women are taken further away from their families and support networks, which makes the process of rehabilitation more difficult and women entering custody are at high risk of losing their accommodation and having significantly worse employment outcomes than men
This argument is absurd...the problem then would be the lack of women's prisons in London. This feels setup, for the past few years there have been calls to close women's prisons. Now this has happened, it's being spun as a reason why women need to be treated even more leniently.
So now, a woman with no mental health issues or drug issues who steals will be automatically spared prison, whereas a homeless man who is starving who shoplifts will be sent to prison. This a program and circumstance that feminists support. This is in no way equality. Men in London are already disadvantaged from education to employment, to being denied housing when they are homeless. The class of people more likely to be educated and employed, and given more welfare and resource, are now treated more favorably by the justice system simply for how they were born.
50% of the population of London now knows they can commit theft with impunity from prison. This seems like a very dangerous circumstance.
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We have enough need more evidence at this point.
For anyone who disgagrees, tomorrow at work suggest loudly that maybe feminism is a regressive movement and see what happens.
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Feminism is fully in trump mode. I.e. hardly tenable facts are defended with hardly any facts. The result is: Mensright activists have to dig deeper and deeper to refute abstruse claims.
This robs energy and time. This is a clear indication that men are the underdogs.
It is a clear sign of arrogance on the feminist side. They can afford this because they are in the position of power.
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This is really good stuff. Would you like to add it as an article to www.menarehuman.com ? If you do, let me know on the Men's Rights Discord. https://discord.gg/gCZTH22 I'm overwhelmed with Reddit messages at the moment, so that's the best way to get in touch if anyone else has articles to share.
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