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Can We Talk About Toxic Femininity?

trivialretort

August 20, 2018

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Title	Can We Talk About Toxic Femininity?
Author	trivialretort
Upvotes	63
Comments	53
Date	August 20, 2018 3:37 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/98un3r/can_we_talk_about_toxic_femininity/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/can-we-talk-about-toxic-femininity.1185665 https://theredarchive.com/post/1185665

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Toxic Masculinity is an important MRA concept.

These are important MRA concepts, do you see toxic masculinity in there? If you can, under what heading or headings does it fall?

Ultimately "toxic masculinity" as a whole is not worth addressing. It is a vague and loaded term intended to evoke derision. And if I took the majority of usages of the term "toxic masculinity" and gave them to you, you'd probably say they were all wrong, perhaps even misandric. Yet you advocate beginning to use this old, terrible term. One that the movement is not currently using, and would be highly confusing for the moment to use. Its a bad idea, and the only reason you seem to like using it is because it is also feminist term, albeit one not used the way you want to use it.

As an advocate for mens rights, it is my business to know about it.

You're kinda in an in-between situation though. A month ago you identified as feminist. Last week you tried to defend Duluth and VAWA. While you do advocate for men's rights, you also advocate for the things that actively harm and deride men.

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