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Explain the logic here. . .

Lundle

December 13, 2018
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Title Explain the logic here. . .
Author

Lundle

Upvotes 759
Comments 62
Date December 13, 2018 10:32 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a5yi70/explain_the_logic_here/
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[–][deleted] 165 points166 points167 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

The logic of feminists is sexist so it doesn't make sense to people who believe in equality.

[–]kerosinfuchs 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Feminists baffle me. It takes so much work to both hold on to reality while you try to understand the weird way their religion constructs the way their concept of the world works. I've studied a lot of religions and so far theirs is the one full of the most confusing concepts, mental gymnastics, and strange dogmas.

It's literally like 1984. To understand them you have to start using double-think. Things mean something and the opposite at the same time. And you have to remember that while you figure out other flawed concepts based on broken logic. It's the strangest religion I've ever encountered.

[–]--Edog-- 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Feminism seems pretty simple to me: Woman are equal to (and simultaneously better and stronger than) men. Simple enough. However, they are also the weaker sex and oppressed by the patriarchy, so they deserve special academic scholarhips, and expanded opportunities. They can accomplish anything on their own because women can do anything. Don't hold the door open for a woman because that's sexist, but also DO hold a door open... because it's misogynistic not to. Women are not accountable for their sexual descisions when they're intoxicated. Also they can accuse any man of sexual misconduct with no evidence because all women should be believed. If this causes men not to want to be alone with them at work, that is sexist. There are no differences between the sexes, but women should not be drafted during wartime because that's a "man's job", but they should be allowed to become Navy Seals. Girls should also be allowed to join The Boy Scouts. Also there is also a gender wage gap that has been disproved by sexist patriarchal institutions like Harvard. It's all very simple. Only a man wouldn't understand it because women are smarter. Also, some women have penises. /s

[–]kerosinfuchs 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your general summation of feminism. I try to get into their heads so I can figure out flaws and then exploit those weaknesses using sock accounts to try to cause infighting and destroy them from the inside.

Women should definitely have to sign up for the draft. Roles can be assigned during wartime based on whatever physical traits are necessary to fill specific roles. I think I would be a good soldier, I go to the range all the time and I'm a much better shot than my guy friends.

I definitely couldn't be a Seal though, I doubt many women out there naturally have that kind of strength without the use of performance enhancing drugs. Which, I don't care if men or women did use steroids so long as it was of their own free will. Then again, I'm an AnCap and have a lot of opinions most people would consider to be 'out there.'

I don't know what's going on with the Boy Scouts thing. Do they have gender integrated Scout troops now? Or is it that girls can join gender segregated troops? Girl Scouts is a liberal brainwashing organization... that's mostly what I know about the subject.

I do find the intersectional feminist religious mantra 'some women have penises' thing weird. I don't see why they've abandoned the body modification. But whatever, I don't care what they do so long as it doesn't affect my freedoms.

[–]--Edog-- 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The Boy Scouts (now just called "The Scouts") caved from pressure from parents who wanted their daughters to be able to join. This caused two problems: 1. Twenty percent of all Boy Scouts are Mormons, and the Mormon Church will not allow mixed boy/girl groups so they dropped BSA from all their churches. 2. The Girl Scouts sued The Scouts for caving in and allowing girls since it competes with their program 3. The Scouts are now looking to file Chapter 11 Bankruptcy and may cease to exist at all in the next decade.

[–]kerosinfuchs 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They've been around for a while, I don't see them going anywhere. Chapter 11 restructuring, while a bad sign, doesn't usually end up in dissolution of an organization the size of the Scouts.

I know in Canada they only have The Scouts but they have gender-segregated troops. I always thought that was the best way to do it. I just don't like that liberal brainwashing organization of the Girl Scouts.

And I didn't know about Mormons in the Boy Scouts, that's actually incredibly interesting.

[–]--Edog-- 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Church of LDS designated Scouting as the official activity program for young men ages 12–16 back in 1928. So that's a lot of Mormon Boy Scouts they lost all at once. My older son was a scout for at an LDS church with a Mormon friend. (We are not Mormon) we were then informed that the entire church would be dropping their affiliation with Boy Scouts due to the mandatory acceptance of girls. His scout troop engaged every month in pretty extreme outdoor hiking/camping adventures requiring carrying heavy backpacks with tents, sleeping bags, food, clothing (even up to 3 liters of water if there was no water available.) I volunteered on a few of these hikes and it was very challenging -by design. (There is no way the average 12 or 13 year old girl could even carry that much gear on that long of a hike.) We (adult volunteers) routinely had to help carry gear for some of the weaker boys. Boy Scouts was created for older men to help boys become good, responsible, resourceful men. It wasn't an exclusive "boys club" And I doubt it ever be the same again in America (I was a Boy Scout also when I was young.) I am not hopefull.

[–]chinawinsworlds 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, feminism is about supremacy. Egalitarianism is about equality. Simple.

[–]--Edog-- 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a movement that uses "usefull idiots" to upend society in a way that's destructive and adversarial. Convincing women that they were being "enslaved" by becoming wives, staying home and looking after children was their greatest achievement. We are now seeing the fruits of their labor - it's not pretty.

[–]Mythandros 22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's a hate cult, not a religion.

[–]MajesticFxxkingEagle 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Religions are just the cults that made it

[–]onbakeplatinum 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is it a cult without an infallible leader?

[–]--Edog-- 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing remotely logical in Feminism. It's all a power game.

[–]SeaweedTasteBad 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

True and illegal immigrants are a big expensive problem

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a fix. Make all immigrants legal.

I will accept my noble peace prize now.

[–]qp0n -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Completely irrelevant to this sub.

[–]dre702 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But still true

[+]YerLocalDeadBodyMan1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

If that was the case, all feminists and their remnants would've gotten murdered out of existence years ago.

[–]v573v 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

With over 100,000,000 men in the US having an inherent instinct to kill women whenever they hear the word no we should expect much more than 1800 women murdered annually.

[–]fengpi 50 points51 points52 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women killing women is A-OK with this lot. They'd be very happy to get stabbed if a chick was the one jamming the knife into their chest.

[+]dre7021 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I’d be happy too

[–]WarOfNoise 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

whatever turns you on

[–]biscuitgravy 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yaaas queen! Slay!

[–]Reptilian_Brain_420 27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are you expecting logic there?

[–]topsecreteltee 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t you hear? There’s no such thing as domestic abuse in lesbian relationships.

[–]Mythandros 26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is no logic.

You are talking to a feminist.

They talk out their asses and call it divine scripture.

Just don't engage feminists in conversation. They will ramble on nonsensically and expect you to tell them they are right, even if what they are telling you is the craziest, most obvious bullshit on the planet.

[–]y4my4m 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They're also the first to resort to violence.

[–]WarOfNoise 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

they use emotional binary reasoning, not deductive logic.

Their personal, self-centered perception of a problem being bigger than another leads to the emotional downsizing of the "lesser" problem into the realm of nonexistence through obsession towards the "bigger" one.

Eventually, it transforms into anyone even mentioning the now non-existent previous "lesser" problem is therefore stating that the "bigger" problem is not a problem at all. They assume common mindset among others and accuse them on those grounds.

Once I realized this, it occurred to me how often feminists essentially confess what they truly believe or want by accusing others of wanting the opposite by the same "logic." it's kind of fascinating if it weren't so widespread and baffling.

We're essentially dealing with a large demographic of emotionally malformed, highly intelligent, profoundly immature sociopathic children in the bodies of adults that are given the same weight and merit as anyone else. They are programmed to only attack, subvert, lie, deceive and harm "by any means necessary."

Furthermore, I don't think most feminists/SJWs realize that their ideology is designed to make their "fight" unending. They are raised to "Fight!" and "Resist!" anything they can justify going after because if they problems they profess need solving actually were solved, they wouldn't know what to do. Their lives would be meaningless. I think this is why the more empowered women become, the angrier Feminism gets. The things they are attacking move further and further into the abstract until it's both non-existent and also all-encompassing. "The Patriarchy" is pretty much a conspiracy theory, and I've been seeing crazy shit out of colleges where radicalized feminist ideologues literally believe the buildings themselves are trying to rape them.

Not only is this insanity, but it's manufactured insanity. This follows the exact same pattern as a cult does. It's terrifying.

[–]x_xwolf 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its probably because those women dont feel pretty or valued so they pretend all men are on cahoots to cope with the fact they are unwanted or cant have serious relationships

[–]--Edog-- 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't see a lot of very attractive feminists - the type who get a lot of attention from men. The leads me to believe a lot of the femimist rage and anger comes not from "oppression" but from not being one of the pretty/popular girls in school, feeling accepted and valued by society. Strangely enough - the ones that claim the "patriarchy" is keeping women from majoring in STEM fields have no interest in those fields of study themselves since it's more exciting to major in gender studies.

[–]akindaboiwantstohelp 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If logic was what I wanted r/feminism would be the last place I'd go to.

[–]SagePlox 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The last comment was what should have been said from the start.

I've seen enough on r/creepyPMs to know that shits true.

Though petition to change the "men" to "people" even if the behavior is more 'common' in males.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why so many downvotes to someone saying murder is wrong in general???

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]x_xwolf 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know whats funny not only are there alot of sexists on r/feminism but theres also alot of racists too, theres feminst on there who say white feminst women are problematic. I dont know how ppl can even tolerate that sub unless they have a deep seated hatred for men or white women.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Plot twist: there may actually be some crazy reason that refugees, consisting of 5% of Sweden's population, commit over 90% of rapes.

[–]OneTinyMidget 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What I really don't understand is the hypocrisy of feminism. The whole point is to say women are not dainty creatures and are in fact as capable ad men. I am totally behind that idea. However when it comes to tasks especially physical ones, they always say ' No I'm a woman you can take care of that.' I'm so confused now. Ladies are you pro-Feminism or not?

[–]WarOfNoise 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Feminists want the benefits of being a man, the privileges of being a woman, and the responsibilities of neither." someone on Twitter

[–]HyperionC132 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How the heck did they go from immigration to the problem being “men murder women”? Is it because they detained a couple of people with a criminal record during the whole South American caravan nonesense so it shifted from immigration to criminality? This is considering an estimate of 5% of those 2000 initial migrants having an actual criminal record.

But that’s not even in the same category of issues...

Maybe the problem is retards who find any excuse to start a fight they can’t back with words and data.

[–]Ex0tictoxic 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What problem is she talking about and why did she say immigrants? She literally said men like killing women. Why is she using some other buzzword?

[–]WikiMB 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

It's just female incel demonizing men since none of them find her attractive to go out with her, so she must let her frustration go somehow.

[–]GingerRazz 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've often wondered how many of the more radical and militant feminists are actually just the female equivalent of incels lashing out at men due to feelings of inferiority they are overcompensating for.

[–]WikiMB 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think a lot of them are truly just incels - sad single women, who can't get a man they desire. Where do they get so much negativity and frustration from to dedicate so much time on shitting on men for being simply men?

[–]themolestedsliver 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet men make up the Overwhelming majority of victims of homicide and don't have the "can't hit a women" cultural stigma associated with them to protect them.

[–]_370HSSV_ 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But arent imigrant men killing and raping women....? These bitches don't use their brain

[–]GingerRazz 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But in their mind it's not because they're immigrants from a culture with problems, it's because they are men and men are the problem. It's really easy to fit anything to the narrative you want if you aggressively cherry pick only bits that support you conclusion you want.

[+]smfuel871 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah...I couldn't find any logic to explain.

[–]WarOfNoise 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

there are more stories coming out of Europe and Australia about hardcore feminists pretty much throwing themselves at these guys. They want to be abused by them. My suspicion is that, since feminism has succeeded and society has thoroughly emasculated and caged men, those men have thus "failed" women in essentially allowing them to do this. Western men are now pathetic to these women. It's not sexy. So, solution? Bring in an entirely new demographic that won't put up with their shit.

I've always had a really uneasy feeling about the whole Red Pill philosophy but sometimes it just adds up too well.

[–]artery_dissection -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Immigration is the problem

[–]smfuel87 -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Watch the French this weekend. Take notes.

[–]LordJiraiya 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This post made me so angry I downvoted it, and then remembered that it was supposed to be pointing out the people with mental disabilities and I changed it to an upvote. Holy shit those people are fucking insane

[–]TheStumblingWolf 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People are controlled by one of 2 things every time they perform an action: feelings or rationality. Here you have an action based on feeling, so rationality doesn't apply and isn't welcomed.

[–]weedislif 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]fogoticus 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1950: A misogynist was considered to be a man who was aggressive towards his woman, considered her property, behaved badly towards her, beat her, stripped her of her rights, was considering her badly

2018, soon 2019: A misogynist is a man who disagrees with a woman.

1950: Sexism: Objectifying the other sex and throwing ignorant opinions about it while indirectly implying that your sex is not "the same".

2018, soon 2019: Sexism: Something every single women experiences upon meeting a man (duh) but whatever sexist thing they say, somehow, does not make them sexist. Hmm.

[–]blazin_fire 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Natural Selection.

[–]sakura_drop 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No the problem is men who think violence is an acceptable response to rejection.

The sheer irony. What about the swathes of women (and yes, I am generalising here, fairly I believe) who think that violence is an acceptable response to virtually anything that pisses them off to some degree, because they've been led to believe that because they have vaginas it somehow doesn't count as violence or assault or battery etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is the feminist tendency to solve problems using the violence that is legislative action.

[–]Kanonizator 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Progressives refuse to use their brains when it would go against their ideology. If 1% of people in group A are criminals while 10% of people in group B are criminals mixing them together will result in group A seeing a rise in crime. Basic fuckin' mathematics, a 6 year old would understand it intuitively, but of course progressives must deny this because they want immigration to happen and they can't allow anything to shine a bad light on it. So, they MUST reframe the situation to put the blame on a group designated as "bad" by political correctness, ie. men. The problem is not that the left deliberately imports criminals, it's men.

Then why do they support the mass immigration of men exactly? Geez, I wonder if there's a contradiction or two in there.

[–]chambertlo -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What about women who think that murder is an appropriate response for dealing with poor life choices by calling it “abortion”?

[+]zachattch -16 points-15 points-14 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

They didn’t need to say your welcome but ya they weren’t wrong

[–]Lundle 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wasn't me.

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