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Feminist Tabitha Hale Talks about the Evolution of Feminism From Equality to Female Empowerment

eggilicious

June 21, 2012
12 upvotes
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http://therealfeminist.com/2012/06/19/three-questions-with-real-feminist-tabitha-hale/

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Title Feminist Tabitha Hale Talks about the Evolution of Feminism From Equality to Female Empowerment
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eggilicious

Upvotes 12
Comments 20
Date June 21, 2012 1:01 AM UTC
(14 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]AvgGuy101 6 points7 points8 points 14 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Ms. Hale certainly sounds like a reasonable person with some good ideas and I suspect that there are many other people who consider themselves to be feminist that probably share her views. The problem is their voices are drowned out by the radical extremists who seem to be "in charge" of most feminist groups. I don't know if it's due to inactivity on the behalf of the more moderate feminists or if they are just vastly outnumbered by the extremists.

With regard to the whole "married and stay home with the kids" thing, women need to wake up and realize that the current laws regarding divorce, alimony, child custody and child support have removed virtually all incentives for men to participate in this kind of arrangement. If women truly value this kind of arrangement then they need to step up and take action to demand more equitable laws.

[–]wavegeek 5 points6 points7 points 14 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

F A Hayek in "The Road to Serfdom" explained many years ago two phenomena that are almost inevitable in political groups.

  1. They become dominated by power seekers and careerists. This happens for the simple reason that these people are prepared to devote more energy and time to seeking power in the organization than others can afford.

  2. They tend to become more extreme. This occurs because of a self-reinforcing cycle. Organizations tend to attract those with strong views, which pushes them towards extremes, which then attracts more extreme people and drives out the moderates.

So feminism is just running according to the script.

[–]ToraZalinto 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sadly one day we could get the same way.

[–]eggilicious3 points 14 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

We more than likely will. We need to stay vigilant and come down hard on extremists, misogynists, misandrists and anyone who calls for any difference in the way the genders are treated or claims that males have inherent advantages over females

[–]ZimbaZumba 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wise observations.

[–]genuinemra -3 points-2 points-1 points 14 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

According to your script. And the discredited Hayek's.

[–]altmehere 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's a nice ad hominem you've got there.

Care to explain why that in particular is flawed, or would you rather just continue concern trolling?

[–]genuinemra -2 points-1 points0 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As I recall, I wasn't speaking to you, was I? Seems like you're the one concern trolling to me. Wavegeek is a big boy.

[–]eggilicious4 points 14 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Its an open forum for discussion. If you want to talk to wavegeek specifically pm him/her

[–]altmehere 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't speaking to you, was I?

Nope, but as eggilicious has pointed out this isn't a PM this is an open comment thread.

Seems like you're the one concern trolling to me.

From Wikipedia: "A concern troll is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose actual point of view is opposed to the one that the user claims to hold. The concern troll posts in Web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed 'concerns'. The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group."

Who does that sound like, "genuinemra"? You make a few reasonable posts to create the appearance of being an MRA and spend the rest of your time trying to sow doubt about the movement.

Wavegeek is a big boy.

I'm not defending wavegeek, I'm calling bullshit on your trolling.

EDIT: and for that matter, I wasn't even talking about wavegeek, more your "discredited Hayek's."

[–]rightsbot 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]bridgecrewdave 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait wait wait... feminist website...talking to a feminist... ok I can see this.

Immediately describe said feminist as Foxy. What?

Beyond that however very well answered questions from what feminists should strive to be.

[–]eggilicious 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is pretty foxy. I'm glad she is not so uptight that she freaks out over comments on her appearance

[–]primaloath 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Am I the only one concerned by the act that she shows no real interest in how her actions affect other people?

[–]eggilicious 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean?

[–]Snorkel77744 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice to see some attention given to the moderate feminists rather than focussing on the nutjobs

[–]levelate 6 points7 points8 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the thing is, moderate feminists such as this one tend to go the way of erin pizzey.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You seem to be missing something, like a link or something.

[+]eggilicious 14 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Its working for me. I'll edit it and resubmit the link

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That works better, thanks.

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