Gamers push for turnament equality

DavidByron2 · 2014-07-03T15:13:18+00:00

Are women weaker in computer games too now?

This seems to be blatant pandering to segregationist feminism -- both for segregation banning males, and of course simultaneously to block a male only competition (although to be fair since men aren't sexist narcissists nobody could care less about a male-only game). This sort of segregationism or sexual purity (men have cooties -- yeuch -- women shouldn't have to be near them) is a criterion of a hate movement.

Crimson_D82 · 2014-07-03T16:31:56+00:00

If you're going to make a women's only event then you should be make a males only event as well. If you don't it's sexism, plain and simple.

lafielle · 2014-07-03T14:48:42+00:00

e-Sports are a competition where all physical characteristics of the players -literally- do not matter. Men's greater physical strength is completely and utterly eliminated from the equation. The only measure of the competition are reflexes, mental skills and tactical insight.

What exactly is IeSF trying to say when they believe women need help to be able to keep up with men?

escobari · 2014-07-03T14:25:53+00:00

yes, SJW's idea of equality: males = equal, females = special

2014-07-03T18:49:06+00:00

'Equality'. As in, access to the men's tournament for women, but no access for the women's tournament for men.

Not one tournament. Two tournaments -- but one that is woman-only. Typical of the feminist idea of 'equality', women get extra.

2014-07-03T23:23:23+00:00

It is the same with the Maths Olympics. Men and Women compete together in the main event and then they have a competition just for females "The women's maths Olympics".

There was a female only maths competition in China organised by the IMO.

acheronshunt · 2014-07-03T15:35:11+00:00

Tournaments can be money and even a decent living for winning teams and players. Women don't have a reason to become professional gamers if they're limited to less games in tournaments and thusly money making opportunities. It doesn't matter how few women or men would participate in one game or another - both should have the opportunity to play in any group there are enough players to support - men should be able to enter tekken tournament, women in hearthstone.

If there are segregated groups, and since physicality shouldn't matter, I don't see why they kept the male and female groups separate instead of making them all "open."

The fact there isn't an uproar over both segregated groups is stupid, but having male only groups was stupid too.

MRSPArchiver · 2014-07-03T13:58:00+00:00

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YetAnotherCommenter · 2014-07-03T14:52:38+00:00

Female gamers make up half of the world’s gaming population, but only a small percentage of e-Sports competitors are women.

What percentage of e-Sports-oriented games' players are women?

From what I've seen, the general female gamer is into casual non-multiplayer games, whilst e-Sports-oriented games are (at least in the multiplayer modes) heavily male-played. Sure, there are exceptions, but still.

"Gaming" shouldn't be agglomerated. Not all gamers play the same games/styles of games. There is a qualitative difference between having a bunch of time-waster smartphone games, and having a Steam library with a hundred titles in it.

It isn't sexism that's "keeping women out" of e-Sports. It's a lack of interest in most e-Sports-oriented titles, and a general lack of interest in e-Sports.

Why do e-Sports exist in the first place? Here's my theory - men are judged 'better men' if they're good at sports. People that spend tons of times playing video games generally aren't good at sports and thus get socially emasculated and picked upon. Said men often (but not always) want to 'legitimize' their hobby (in the eyes of others), make it into a sport so as to make it a properly respected competitive activity... and thus make it manlier.

Women don't need to be good at sport to be "real women" so they don't have all that pressure pushing them into sports. Hence they don't usually go into sports unless they truly enjoy the sport itself.

Its not evil men keeping women out of sports - its the fact that gender roles provide women no reason to go into them.

chocoboat · 2014-07-03T16:23:34+00:00

Having a male-only competition is a really dumb idea, especially for a game in which men have no inherent advantage. Congrats to IeSF for realizing this when it was pointed out to them.

It should work this way even in things like pro sports where men do have an advantage. If a woman is good enough to play with the men at the professional level, there's no reason not to let her do it. (In reality this virtually never happens, but that's beside the point).

And if the women aren't good enough to play with the men, there can be a women's league that may or may not survive on its own merit. And that's what IeSF is doing... like women's basketball or women's tennis. If the women's competition becomes popular then it can start offering better prize money, and if nobody watches then maybe they'll stop holding the women's event.

Title	Gamers push for turnament equality
Author	TheVTM
Upvotes	6
Comments	38
Date	July 3, 2014 1:57 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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