How MRAs contradict themselves.

M4Strings · 2014-07-29T02:27:19+00:00

1) Where the hell are you going to get what you think MRAs are saying? Never have I in my time in the MR portion of the net have I saw an MRA say that women shouldn't have equal opportunity in the more dangerous and physically demanding fields of work. Quite to the contrary, I've observed an egalitarian stance to this, though the fact that women on average have less muscle mass than men, less women are going to apply for those jobs and probably not all the ones who do will be hired. Equality of opportunity des not equate to equality of outcome.

2) It's not an injustice that men work more dangerous jobs, but it is an injustice to say that the man who risks his life every day should be paid as much as the female secretary in a nice office. It's unfair that men are required to sign up for the selective service in the U.S. and women aren't, but I don't think you'll find too many if any one here arguing that women should have to sign up as well, but rather that no one should have to sign up if they don't wish to.

SwanOfAvon22 · 2014-07-29T03:08:15+00:00

This is dumb even by the standards of the trolls we usually get.

Exactly_what_I_think · 2014-07-29T02:45:40+00:00

Cite Your Sources.

iwasnotshadowbanned · 2014-07-29T03:29:12+00:00

This is a troll.

What is the first rule of the internet?

Ignore the trolls.

MRSPArchiver · 2014-07-29T02:14:45+00:00

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WWLadyDeadpool · 2014-07-29T02:19:04+00:00

We have the technology to greatly reduce workplace deaths if companies are willing to expend the money.

The issue isn't that men are doing more jobs, the issue is that the death of a man is not seen as as great a tragedy by society as the death of a woman.

azazelcrowley · 2014-07-29T02:21:41+00:00

What. Since when do argue that first one? This is news to me. I'm pretty sure most MRAs, maybe even all, are ok with women doing any job they are the best candidate for.

JakeDDrake · 2014-07-29T03:29:53+00:00

I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that MRAs believe that women "should not" seek equal opportunity with men in fields requiring heavy manual labour to be done.

If you can provide for me a list of examples where you've seen this sentiment expressed, maybe we can shed some light onto this issue.

ThePigmanAgain · 2014-07-29T09:50:32+00:00

Given that premise 1 is bullshit, there's no way this turd can come to a conclusion worth reading.

monkeyhousezen · 2014-07-29T12:33:20+00:00

Men are biologically stronger, tougher, and more aggressive than women. Therefore, women should not seek equal opportunity in professions that require physical strength or an aggressive attitude.

Straw man. People usually claim that men and women should be subject to the same standards rather than having one standard for men and another for women.

It is a great injustice that men work more dangerous jobs and are more likely to die on the job. It's also unfair that only men are forced to register for the draft.

I don't see people claiming that it is unjust that men work dangerous jobs, only that, as a society, we tend to ignore that they die doing so. Similarly, the issue isn't that men register for the draft, it's that only men are required to register and only men who are punished if they refuse or neglect to do so.

In both cases people are calling for greater equality.

Title	How MRAs contradict themselves.
Author	Desecr8or
Upvotes	0
Comments	30
Date	July 29, 2014 2:14 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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