I need advice please

rantgrrl · 2011-07-27T17:47:26+00:00

Don't do it.

CoonTown · 2011-07-27T17:53:23+00:00

If she wants a child, why would she not just go to a sperm bank? If you impregnate this girl, you aren't going to have any legal protection against child support claims. Legally, it would be your child.

EDIT: Basically, what I'm asking is, what benefit were you hoping to get out of this?

AnnArchist · 2011-07-27T18:15:17+00:00

FUCK NO.

AnnArchist · 2011-07-27T18:15:35+00:00

FUCK NO. DO NOT DO THIS. IT WILL NOT END WELL.

There are sperm banks where she lives.

2011-07-27T18:31:55+00:00

Is there a way for me to secure my not being obligated to be involved in the child's life in any form?

No. Even if there is no extradition treaty, it may be possible for her to sue for child support in your country. And even if that is not possible now, laws can change and make you retroactively liable.

Do not do this unless you are willing to be financially responsible should she change her mind and find a way of suing you for support.

But experience tells me that a woman's word, while genuine at the moment of utterance, doesn't mean shit really.

I don't want to make any judgements about the truthfulness of women in general, but the financial realities of supporting a child could very well make her break her promise.

t1k · 2011-07-27T18:59:51+00:00

But experience tells me that a woman's word, while genuine at the moment of utterance, doesn't mean shit really.

Uh, people. People's words don't mean shit.

Depending on which country she's in, there a good chance she could still get child support if she wanted to. And most countries will not let you sign a contract not to ever ask for child support. Don't do it.

2011-07-28T01:07:18+00:00

I need your advice. Is there a way for me to secure my not being obligated to be involved in the child's life in any form?

Nope. None. Zip. Zero. Don't fucking do it. You have no power in this relationship. You will be at the mercy of another individual. There is no benefit to this course of action only potential loss. Just. Don't. Do. It.

kloo2yoo · 2011-07-27T18:55:17+00:00

Is there a way for me to secure my not being obligated to be involved in the child's life in any form?

nope.

ex post facto laws are no longer verboten, especially when it comes to the good of a -greedy- -woman- child.

Bobsutan · 2011-07-28T00:25:53+00:00

I was asked recently to essentially make an unofficial sperm donation, and get a woman who was worried about missing her opportunity to have a child pregnant.

Tell her to go to a sperm bank. /thread

Anything else is just a rationalization/excuse so she can tap someone else for money to pay for her choice.

2011-07-28T13:05:36+00:00

I just registered after a long time as a lurker just to say this: DO NOT DO THIS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

You are not helping her, you are not helping yourself and you are not helping the child she would give birth to. If she wants to have a child she should try establishing a real relationship with a man who is willing to be a father to that child.

Every country on Earth has children who need homes. Point her towards the nearest adoption agency if she is so desperate to have a child without a man.

NealHansen · 2011-07-28T16:45:29+00:00

Kuppers - If you allow a female human being to impregnate herself with your semen, you are providing her the means to legally bind you to 18 years of child support payments. She can keep you around or not, that's her choice legally. She can dispose of you, and keep a major fraction of your income. If for whatever reason you find yourself unable to pay - she can imprison you. When you get out of prison, you will still owe the money.

You say you know her and she'd never do that to you? In your words "I trust her intent completely." <--- this is a criminally naive sentiment, only slightly ameliorated by your following statement: "But experience tells me that a woman's word, while genuine at the moment of utterance, doesn't mean shit really."

You are contemplating your own enslavement - and if you go forward with this plan after reading the various comments in this thread, then you will deserve the outcome.

Finally, listen to rantgrrl - she's made the most succinct and useful comment in this thread.

"Dont do it"

EvilPundit · 2011-07-27T18:04:17+00:00

This sounds highly suspicious. Why can't she get a donor in her own country?

You won't be able to mail her your sperm - you'll have to meet somewhere. And at that point you'll be subject to the laws of the country you meet in. Which will, in all probability, favour women over men.

I would steer clear of this. If you just want to spread your genes, go to another country and donate sperm to an agency there. But by making a direct arrangement with a person like this, I'm pretty sure you will incur legal obligations.

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

kloo2yoo · 2011-07-27T18:55:25+00:00

Is there a way for me to secure my not being obligated to be involved in the child's life in any form?

nope.

ex post facto laws are no longer verboten, especially when it comes to the good of a child.

ManThoughts · 2011-07-28T02:24:23+00:00

DON'T DO IT. She could very easily fly to your country and have the baby on your soil. Then guess who gets to pay.

DONTDOITDONTDOITDONTDOITDONTDOITDONTDOIT

(I am not a lawyer. But please, Don't do it.)

Women cannot be trusted.

P.S. - Don't do it.

Title	I need advice please
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Comments	49
Date	July 27, 2011 5:43 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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