Ok hear me out here right, from what I can gather from the various subreddits I’ve been on, my observation is that MOST (around 80%) or so called feminists and MOST of anti-feminist/red pilled men really do agree with more than they disagree with each other. What I mean by this is on both sides we universally seem to just want true equality, where women aren’t tramped down by men and men aren’t tramped down by women. A vast majority of feminists these days seem to have a thwarted view of red pilled men as they automatically jump to things like assuming that a guy wants to “control women” and “make her be his servant” when in reality most red pilled guys just want to not be demonized by society and told they’re inherently bad, along with being invisible.

From what I’ve seen, most modern day feminists ARENT the radical men hating ones that usually get brought up here, these women are far and few in between. In fact I think the REAL problem lies in the mass brainwashing that has done by the media to trick women into viewing redpilled men as something far worse than they’d actually are. Most arguments between feminists and men online start out with the man talking about just wanting not to be demonised and women automatically jump to the conclusion that he’s an incel. The reason they think this because the vast majority of feminists are still under the impression that feminism is how it is back in the 1970s when it as about true equality, and so their thought process goes something like this: “feminism is about women wanting to be equal, if a man says anything bad about feminism then he just wants to manipulate and turn women into slaves”.

TLDR; So basically to sum it all up I don’t think the problem is that most feminists actually WANT to suppress men and demonize us. I think they’re brainwashed into thinking that they’re supporting 1970s true equality feminism by our educational systems and media which paint red pilled men as violent rapey misogynists. The solution I think is to combat this brainwashing by genuinely having better communication and not jumping to insults, as that’ll only reinforce their brainwashed view of us. You’ll find that most feminism and red pilled men have more views in common than we might think if we really took the time to talk it out.