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Innocent man profiled as a violent deviant by police, users of /r/twox see it as excellent police work and an overall "positive experience."

FrankieSucks

August 20, 2015
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Title Innocent man profiled as a violent deviant by police, users of /r/twox see it as excellent police work and an overall "positive experience."
Author

FrankieSucks

Upvotes 14
Comments 29
Date August 20, 2015 7:57 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3hrcu1/innocent_man_profiled_as_a_violent_deviant_by/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/innocent-man-profiled-as-a-violent-deviant-by.972908
https://theredarchive.com/post/972908
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Comments

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Let's add a little spice to this story, and say that the man was black, and the women white.

And let's now say, that the cop is twice as likely to "check that the woman is OK", because not only is the person in the car with her a male, who is bigger and stronger than her, but he is also black. And black men rape more than white men.

Is everyone happy now?

[+]walkofftheplane -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Let's say it's your daughter in the car and the cop doesn't ask. Next time the cop sees her she's naked, bloody, and crying at the side of the road. Bet you'd be real pissed the cop just drove away.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

The number one killers & sex-abusers of children are their parents — male and female.

So let's say that you are a loving dad, and every time you go for a walk in the park with you kids, and cop comes up and takes your kids aside and asks if you are being violent to them or having sex with them.

Happy?

[–]walkofftheplane -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

As long as all he does is ask, isn't a complete dick about it, and goes about his business.

Fucking ecstatic. I'd ask the person how their day was and thank them for giving enough of a shit to ask.

Sorry, maybe we're not as uptight in Canada.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

So let's get this straight:

You would be "fucking ecstatic" if every time you took your kids out for a walk, a cop would take them aside and ask your kids if their dad was physically abusing them or having sex with them. And the cops need NO suspicion at all — you are just a dad with his kids.

So let's say you take your kids out 3 times a week for a walk/fun in the park etc. And that you are stopped when the kids are between the ages of 3 and 13.

So you would be stopped 1,716 times over 11 years.

And you seriously believe that this would not traumatise or trouble your kids at all?

Sorry, maybe we're not as uptight in Canada.

Englishman here thank you very much. And we like our freedoms to go about our lawful business without being suspected peodophiles just because we are with our kids.

[+]walkofftheplane -7 points-6 points-5 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

I'd be more concerned why there are so many cops hanging out in parks but no, it honestly wouldn't bother me. Chances are if I'm going to the same park(s) it wouldn't take the officers 11 years to recognize me.

If it was anything more than a question, I'd probably be upset. Chances are if you don't make a big deal about it, and you're not getting pissed off, your children will be fine. I've had some shitty experiences with police officers but never because they wanted to ask a couple questions.

[–]PunxTatto 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So you have no issue with people assuming you are a violent rapist for no reason other than your gender? You are someone that a dictator would love to have in their country. I couldn't imagine what it would be like to be ok with having to constantly show that I am not breaking the law. Then again, you probably miss the whole issue.

[–]walkofftheplane -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If they assumed I was a violent rapist they wouldn't fucking ask.

[–]PunxTatto 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, you really are a dumb one. If they didn't think it wasn't a good possibility (due to sexist views they hold), they wouldn't stop you at all. A door mat like you is perfectly happy accepting that you have to prove you are not guilty of a crime you didn't commit. It is people like you that have made me start believing that people don't deserve freedom, you so easily want to give it away.

[–]walkofftheplane -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I give up more freedoms going to work each day than a few minutes of interaction with the police.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Well, thank god you're not my dad. What a shitty father you would be.

[–]walkofftheplane -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

That's... That's incredible.

I'm simply fucking amazed at how you came up with that line of reasoning.

Please explain, for my children's sake ;)

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Please explain, for my children's sake ;)

One of the most basic function of a father is to act like a real man and demonstrate to their children that they are born with innate freedoms and rights.

One of the most basic of those rights, is to simply exist and walk in public without being stopped, with no suspicion whatsoever, and have your own children integrated by an officer of the law.

What will you children think of you as their weak and cowardly father stands by as they are hauled-off to one side and questioned about their father being a potential violent child sex-abuser?

[–]walkofftheplane -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Or perhaps I will teach my children to be friendly to strangers. These cops aren't telling children I'm some "sexual violent predator", they're making sure they're okay. I am not some coward because I don't take social interaction as an affront. I treat people as equals. Police officers are human too. I will teach my children to be polite and friendly when talking to people, the same as their father. And you know what? If my kids are genuinely nice to these officers, it will reflect on my character as a father. What's next am I going to tell the postman to fuck off when if she asks how the kids are?

[–]Consilio_et_Animis1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I will teach my children to be friendly to strangers

Oh dear. Not doing very well are you? LOL

[–]walkofftheplane1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I thought we were having a discussion. I'm a little sarcastic but I have no ill will towards you. In fact, I'd rather the law saw never do this kind of thing than always. Maybe I'm naive to think the officers will be polite. And really, if you believe you have the right for this not to happen to you, I'm all for it. I just don't personally see it as a problem unless the police are rude to me/my children.

[–]Consilio_et_Animis2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I thought we were having a discussion

Well you got that one wrong. You are just a dope who hasn't even the most basic clue as to how to defend their rights and the rights of their children.

So I'm just taking the piss out of you because I can't think of anything better to do and I'm bored.

Happy Now?

[–]walkofftheplane1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yep :)

[–]Consilio_et_Animis2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That makes both of us :-)

Peace.

[–]PunxTatto1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

These cops aren't telling children I'm some "sexual violent predator"

No, that is exactly what the cops are doing.

[–]walkofftheplane1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If the cops are that big of assholes where you live than I truly feel bad for you. I'd wander around at night and get pulled over nearly every single time. All they'd do is ask a couple questions and tell me to have a good night/be safe. Not once did I feel they assumed/implied I was any sort of criminal.

If you want this changed, I'm not going to stand in your way. I just don't personally see it as a problem.

[–]PunxTatto1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No, the cops aren't assholes here. The fact you think cops there are nice despite them pulling you over all the time, shows you are really an idiot or trolling. If they pulled you over, they are assuming you are doing something illegal. Like I said, you're either to dumb to understand that or are trolling. If you are not trolling, I am astounded and saddened that you have children. They will be ill equipped to deal with the real world.

[–]walkofftheplane1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Haha I love how I'm not equipped to deal with the real world cause I'm not some uptight twat who gets his panties in a bunch when a cop talks to me for a few minutes. Which happened in the real world, and I was perfectly equipped go deal with. Being nice goes a fuck of a long way in the real world. I've had some officers give me a ride home in the rain. Or is that some new form of crime prevention?

[–]PunxTatto1 point 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No, you're just an all around idiot. You have no idea that the police seem to think you are constantly guilty of some kind of crime. But I am done trying to explain a concept to you that you are not smart enough to grasp. I would have better luck explaining quantum mechanics to a piece of fruit.

[–]walkofftheplane0 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Aww you're cute.

[–]FrankieSucks 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quoted text incase deleted:

Hello TwoX, I recently had a run in with my local police department, and wanted to share (run in makes it sound bad but it really wasn't, as the title says). Especially with all the bad press out there on police recently, I thought a positive story would be good to share. Please forgive formatting as I'm on mobile.

Last week, my best friend and I went to see Fantastic Four at our local theatre. We were the only ones there and we enjoyed having the theatre to ourselves because he complained and made jokes the entire time (he's a comic book nerd). After the movie, it was probably 11:30 pm, and neither of us really wanted to go home yet because A) we were enjoying talking about the movie and just shooting the breeze in general, and B) both of our home lives are not the greatest. His parents constantly rib on him, and my mom only ever complains about my father, but that's another story. Anyway, usually when we don't want to go home we drive around, but I've been saving money for a trip and didn't want to waste the gas driving around for an hour or so. We live in a smallish town too so most things were starting to close and again, didn't want to spend anymore money. So, I drove us down to an old train station turned museum in our area that overlooks the Hudson River. There were some other cars in the parking lot but no one around except for two teenagers we saw walking in the direction of a playground. We sit there for maybe 15 minutes, watching trains go by, enjoying the night and each other's company when a police car rolls into the parking lot. It's got it's little side mirror light searching the parking lot and it stops right on my car.

I'm like, "Oh they're going to think we're having sex or doing drugs or something" because my windows were fogged up and this area is known to have junkies hang around it. Sure enough he pulls over to us and his lights go on. No biggie, we're not doing anything wrong, there shouldn't be a problem. So we both take out our IDs and roll the window down.

The officer comes over and informs us that we are trespassing. Wut.jpeg

Apparently there's a sign posted and people aren't supposed to be here after dark.

We explain that we honestly didn't know, hand him our IDs and answer his politely and honestly. He asks me to step out of the vehicle.

I'm thinking, oh crap, my parents are going to have to come bail me out, I'm going to be handcuffed, oh god what am I gunna do! Basically freaking the friggity-frack out.

He takes me around the back of my car and looks me dead in the face and says, "The reason I asked you to step out is because I wanted to make sure you were here of your own volition. That he's not assaulting you and didn't force you down here to hurt you. I don't want to leave you here with him if something is happening." This guy. This guy right here. Bless him.

Obviously I told him I was there of my own free will, my friend would never do that, we've been friends for years I trust him and all that. He let me get back in the car, gave us back our IDs, took my plate number and let us go with a warning not to be there after dark again.

At the time I didn't know where that could have come from, but looking back, it makes sense. It was almost midnight, in a deserted parking lot by the river. My best friend is 6'4, I'm 5'1 and he has easily a 100 pounds on me. If he had wanted to he could have easily taken advantage of me. Which, again, he would never. But it struck me as very forward thinking on the police officer's part to take me aside and ask me that.

TL;DR: A cop pulled me aside and asked me if I was being assaulted and made sure I was okay even though I wasn't being assaulted.

[–]RemoveTheTop -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gasp! Police profiling where there's no actual arrest or victims! OH NOOOOO!

What "right" is being violated here?

[–]Pyehole -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Meh.

[–]cellardoor35 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Meh? The same thing happened to me some years ago. After enough encounters like this, men learn that the police are not on your side. They are not where you go for help. This sort of policing is thanks to the Duluth Model with an assist from traditional thinking in which men perpetrate and women are victimized.

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