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Jezebel posts article from father's perspective discussing how he cannot afford child support payments and is impovershed -- surprise, zero sympathy from comments.

shitlordsauron

March 22, 2016
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Title Jezebel posts article from father's perspective discussing how he cannot afford child support payments and is impovershed -- surprise, zero sympathy from comments.
Author

shitlordsauron

Upvotes 63
Comments 39
Date March 22, 2016 7:20 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4bixf5/jezebel_posts_article_from_fathers_perspective/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/jezebel-posts-article-from-fathers-perspective.953495
https://theredarchive.com/post/953495
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Horrible story on Jezebel about man sexually abusing his 15 year old daughter... comment states (and is starred by multiple people) for saying that even "normal" men have sexualized thoughts about their daughters... WTF

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March 15, 2016
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[–]shitlordsauron 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

WHole comment section is cancer, but here's an idea of the perspective.

  • People telling him to just "be a man"
  • People telling him he should have gotten a vasectomy (yeah I guess the mothers shouldn't have been on birth control??)
  • People telling him that he has to just deal with it
  • People wanting the mother's perspective because it's "more important"

Meanwhile the state took away his freaking DRIVERS LICENSE because he couldn't make his payments. Yeah that's gonna help him get more work!

[–]BigJ76 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's cancer on Reddit and the internet all day every day but that comment section can give cancer cancer

[–]CountVonVague 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile the state took away his freaking DRIVERS LICENSE because he couldn't make his payments. Yeah that's gonna help him get more work!

Oh yeah that happened to my dad, similar reason..

[–]iBelieveButton 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The empathy gap is real.

[–]Grailums 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well that's the way it is. Men are told they are 100% financially responsible for a child but have 0% say in how the child is raised or if the child is even born at all.

Feminism is fine with this and telling men they need "man up" and start paying. It's depressing. No wonder 80% of all suicides are men.

[–]ShutupPussy 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't get the point of checking the bottom barrel and posting about how bottom barrel it is. Jezebel already attracts some of the most sexist readers and the comments section is only going to be the worst of the group.

[–]mochacola 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Try and tell this story at dinner table and lunch at work, to people not subscribed to any gender ideologues. I can assure you sentiments will be the same.

[–]ShutupPussy 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So why is this being here? And it wouldn't be the sentiment at my dinner table.

[–]shitlordsauron 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see your point - I think it was more when I first saw it I was like "wow, jezebel providing a first hand account of a man struggling with child support payments"... progress?

On its face would be a good thing to present an alternate perspective...but then just getting disappointed by the comments just shitting all over him (even if yeah, he seems like he's made some awful decisions).

So I shared it here... I thought we could discuss it since it is a relevant issue to mens rights (even if the subject himself is imperfect). Note I also used an archive link to not give Jezebel any pageviews so as to not directly benefit that dishrag of a site.

[–]ShutupPussy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your feelings, I'm just not sure it was discussion worthy. But you did use archive so it was responsibly posted. And I'm just sharing my opinion on this thread; it's your prerogative to post if you like.

[–]Claude_Reborn 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Meh, I wouldn't worry too much about Jezebel, they are all about to be tossed out on their arses, after Hulk Hogan just fucked Gawker to the tune of $140 Mil.

[–]ThogOfWar 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Step one when declaring bankruptcy, sell assets. You don't think Jezebel won't be bought by some other skeezy feminist bullshit machine?

[–]SRSLovesGawker 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That depends. We know they're an also-ran in a fairly densely populated field of gender-baiting one click outrage (see: xojane, feministing, the guardian, et al). Without the rest of gawker propping it up, would it have enough traction on its own to survive?

Magic 8-ball says: Answer unclear, ask again later.

[–]justcantwin1111 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if they really make money i would buy it.

[–]justcantwin1111 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and he didn't even take them out to eat.

[–]fourthwallcrisis 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We probably won't have to put up with this bullshit for much longer, Gawker picked a fight with the wrong Hulkster and lost.

So, in a way, all those clicks that these sexist, craven hags ever gave gawker media are now going right into Hogan's wallet. Beautiful.

[–]chavelah 25 points26 points27 points 10 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Christ, this is insidious. Jezebel puts out an article about how poor men aren't inherently deadbeats, written by an actual deadbeat.

This guy has three kids he claims to love, two born in wedlock, and he is deliberately not providing for them, because he wants to have a "career" like Sidney Poitier rather than a "job that pays the bills" like an actual fit parent. He tells us all about his terrible life choices in detail. He lays out every single reason we should despise his narcissistic ass.

This man is not typical of poor fathers who are in arrears on child support. Fuck you, Jezebel, for using this idiot to represent poor fathers.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This man is not typical of poor fathers who are in arrears on child support.

Of course. It's a set up. It's to enable their readers to tilt at windmills.

[–]houseaddict 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why shouldn't he be a carer? why does the womans right to be that carer trump his?

[–]chavelah -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Read the article. He loves his children and has access to them, but their mothers (and/or the taxpayers) cover the vast majority of their financial needs.

[–]houseaddict 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't really address my question.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fair enough. It may be that he would have preferred to be a primary caregiver... but if so, he does not mention it in the article.

[–]houseaddict 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, I couldn't be arsed to read it all (it was loooong) and I just assumed it form your previous comment.

[–]CellularPeptideCake 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

They chose a black deadbeat though, which I guess they thought would be too stereotypical to actually criticize...maybe they were trying to lessen the blow? ;)

[–]justcantwin1111 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

no they are promoting the stereotype of black men being deadbeat dads and black fatherless homes.

[–]Grailums -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's not really a stereotype when the facts actually state what is true though.

[+]justcantwin1111 -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

that's it show the true colors of white supremacist in the MRA. show us how blacks are bad and would be better back in chains with tougher jim crow laws. lets not put the blame on the destrution of the black family by WHITE FEMINIST AND A GOVERNMENT GIVING WELFARE. LETS NOT DISCUSS THE MASS ABORTIONS BLACK WOMEN HAVE. 39% of all abortions are in the black communities. no lets not focus on how feminist made the white men their bitch. lets not talk about the fact that white men every day complain right in this forum about not being able to see their children. let hide the fact the this forum is fighting for equal parenting time. so whits are just so fucking better then everyone. then why the fuck do you need a FUCKING MEN'S RIGHTS MOVEMENT IF IT'S SO FUCKING GREAT TO BE WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW KISS MY ENTIRE BLACK ASS

[–]Grailums -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah....no. This isn't the big white boogeyman coming back to put you in chains. It's telling you that YOU have responsibilities as well.

This isn't me saying that "but all men do hit their kids!" when statistics show women are more likely to abuse/murder their children. No it's not that. Black men do, at a disproportionate rate, skip out on women. Now I'm not saying they shouldn't have the ability to do that, but I'm saying that is the reality: a lot of black kids grow up without a father. Way more than white kids.

So how about you shut the fuck up and take some responsibility that maybe, just maybe, the black community has some cleaning up to do and attitudes like yours just continue to perpetuate the stereotype?

[+][deleted] 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Grailums 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Even the lefties out there are willing to admit that 70% of black children are born with no father in the picture. By all means I am sure that there are some that do, definitely, want to be with their children but do not pass the buck off as blacks being the only "oppressed" people when it comes to family like the above is.

Black culture cannot be denied in how flippant they are with taking responsibility in anything. You have blacks killing blacks in America at a rate that even white people cannot match killing white people. Black culture has a problem, and denying that black children being raised by responsible black fathers is the fault of women and women only is just an outright lie.

[–]justcantwin1111 -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

and i am telling you that's bullshit. i personally know more whites who never met their dads or mom is a junkie. if they are saying that unmarried women are single mothers then yes they would be right. but not knowing their dads because of the dad just don't give a fuck is bullshit. BLACK WOMEN TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO HATE THEIR DADS AS WELL AS WHITE WOMEN. WOMEN IN GENERAL KEEP MEN FROM THEIR CHILDREN IT'S CALLED ALIENATION!!!!!. i have absolutely no responsibility to help black women do a damn thing to fix their bullshit. i'm black and don't date black women because of there bullshit. if black men are failing then look at who raised them. you got it BLACK WOMEN. LITERALLY BLACK WOMEN WITH WHITE FEMINIST AND GOVERNMENT HELP DESTROYED THE BLACK FAMILY. i have no responsibility to the failure of black women to raise better men. they want child support free shit and another dick to ride. they will treat a black man like a slave and a white man like a king. so fuck them trash

[–]Grailums 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Next thing you'll be telling me is that arresting black men for committing crimes is oppression, right?

Single mothers are terrible at raising boys, no doubt about it, but black boys have a culture facing them stating they have to "get money get riches get bitches" and no one to tell them what responsibility or consequences are.

Simple fact of the matter is more black kids from single mothers face jail time than white males from single mothers face. So you can't just be blaming it on black women at that point.

[–]HotDealsInTexas 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In related news, Fox News "liberal correspondents" aren't actual liberals.

Shit, are we sure this was even written by a real father, and that it isn't some Jezebel writer making shit up?

[–]justcantwin1111 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what should really shake your tree is when women do this very thing we give them free collage free food free health care free housing free daycare 6,000$ a year at tax time free cell phones and internet with computers.

[–]dungone 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where in the world did you get that from? You're projecting so many of your personal prejudices into this article that I really don't see you as much better than the the Jezebel commentariat and their readers.

The idea that it is illegal to be poor as a father - even if it is by choice - is the thick black line that separates social safety nets from forced labor. There is no shortage of special pleading involved in pretending that poor men aren't really poor except by choice, and that there's nothing at all wrong with telling them to find a better paying B job even as you're more than willing to take 70% of their minimum wage income and charge them 12% interest on what you magically claim they should have earned and given to you, but didn't.

Nothing about this article strikes me as "narcissistic" in any way. Beyond the idea of an educated black man daring to express his side of the story. How uppity of him, right?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You expect anything less from an online magazine that once published a piece on women beating up their spouses/boyfriends as a form of "Empowerment"?

[–]dominotw 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just get a second job at Taco Bell and pay your arrears.

[–]Alkomb -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, was that a comment? I never see anything that I agree with that's said/posted by a feminist.:\

[–]Griever114 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The entirety of Gawker media is a SJW/Feminist shithole. Im glad i stopped going to those website.

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