male disposability

menstruatrix · 2019-10-22T00:54:56+00:00

All I want is to be left alone
in my average home.

randomgamerguy1997 · 2019-10-22T03:13:54+00:00

We need a MaleLivesMatter movement

dmr02 · 2019-10-22T02:36:12+00:00

in 2019 in a first world country, where we have less of a need for survival instincts and harsh militarism (to some extent, obviously everyone needs a military but we dont need to raise men into it from birth like spartans), i think option 2 would be my preference, although im not saying its the only right way. i just think that we can be more progressive because although men and women are biologically different, some men might fit better into the opposite category and some women into their opposite, so if we have the chance, we should give people the opportunity to find their place in society.

NatureFreakLS · 2019-10-22T04:13:36+00:00

Meh, the 2nd society sounds like a depression den.

It blows my mind to think that feminists got women to sign away their "do whatever you want everyday for your entire life" for "work like a miserable drone until you die, but sometimes you won't have to cook dinner"

I mean fuck, if I had that freedom I wouldn't sign it away even if they promised me I wouldn't have to crawl through the mud/sewage in sub zero temperatures to fix the problems caused by my wife improperly using a toilet.

xmjones100 · 2019-10-22T00:37:56+00:00

This explains the problem of feminism. It doesn't influence women to take up the responsibilities of men, but it influences them to take up the leadership role of men. This essentially doesn't work or works at the expense of men-as men have to take up the responsibility of both genders.

goodmod · 2019-10-22T02:43:06+00:00

I think there's a typo in this line:

> -women support me every step of the way

Demonspawn · 2019-10-22T06:43:26+00:00

"Until you can demonstrate a way of convincing society to treat men and women as equally disposable, this fantasy of equality between men and women cannot exist and is not a valid argument." --Me

There is only one stable option.

OmnivoreOfRedBrick · 2019-10-22T10:54:45+00:00

This may prove unpopular, however I would like to provide some historical context to the first point, that life was very disposable. Spartan women were not always positive moral supporters to their men, but had a different role in society. Spartan women had a reputation for their beauty, feistiness and willingness to expend their men.

The phrase "(Return) either with your shield or on it" exemplifies this. Another anecdote is that a Spartan mother hoiked up her dress and asked her defeated son; "Why have you come here having run away like a common slave? Do you intend to crawl back up your mother's womb from which you were born?"

So for me, since I don't live in a society that had high mortality, is in constant war and runs on slavery, can I choose option 1.5 somewhere in the middle?

TheCoderAndAvatar · 2019-10-22T12:57:41+00:00

I just want to grill.

mrmensplights · 2019-10-22T04:10:13+00:00

There are an infinite number of ways in which society could be organized and where both genders can thrive. We just don't live in one of them.

Title	male disposability
Author	ligmakun
Upvotes	21
Comments	11
Date	October 22, 2019 12:26 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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