so i might as well be showing off my lack of nuance or the fact that English is my second language, but i wanted to write this post after seeing some of the most common responses to incels either the "women don't owe you anything" or just the use of the word entitled every other sentence when this is discussed, i have seen some wacky, borderline ilegal kind of shit on the incel forums, but the "normal" incels, or guys who use blackpill lingo, are mostly complaining about their lack of attractiveness, the standards of women and the braindead advice given to men in their same situation.

now, as i understand it, for someone to be entitled they would need to have a desire of something they are not worthy of, or force other people to enact their desire while not being deserving of it, on this case, date or have relationships with them. and yes, a relationship is not something that you can have just because you want to but, for lack of better terms, is something that someone else gives to you, if they are so inclined.

the problem here is, from perspective, is that aside from radical incels, not many of these guys are wanting to force women into having relationships with them (a lot of them would even reject prostitutes) or seem to think they are so good that women should be in relationships with them, if anything a lot of them can give you a lot of reasons why women wont date them, wich leads me to the only logical use of this term given the context: incels dont deserve relationships.

given that this men were so far gone as to buy the "nonsense of the blackpill" (i think it has some merits as an idea but thats personal, if anything its a net negative for its adepts), because these men are like this, then they deserve their suffering, they are not blackpillers because their real and lived circunstances lead them to where they are and they know how it was like, but their circumstances are a product of their belief in the blackpill, and if they knew better, if only they went outside or did x,y and z, then they would not be incels.

and this is when it gets more into the men's right, because i have seen hundreds, thousands of women complaining about men all day long all the time, and no one gives them as many platitudes, as many shit advice, as many "no one owes you anything" nor are they called entitled as incels do, one has to asume that her complaints are valid, her reasoning is righteous and she deserves whatever relationship she wants. and even taking into account the difference in vitriol and lack of social finesse of incels, the responses are wildly different just depending on the gender of the complainer.

and i think thats were the core of the issue lays, men arent owed anything, dont deserve anything and will get nothing, while women have even public policy and direct political action to address their most minimal problem, its a real clasic example of the lack of positive feelings toward men and the bias for women of modern society.

maybe im just misunderstanding something here, so if you have another take on why people use the term entitled/entitlement so much (it could simply be a shaming tactic) when talking about incels, then i would appreciate it.