Men have it good

iainmf · 2022-07-10T09:15:45+00:00

💀Probably gonna get deleted because y’all are whiny bitches about women being pissed off at men.

Post like yours are beneficial to this sub, so I am not going to delete it.

It shows how ignorant and hateful people are when men want to talk about their issues.

It shows how feminists can't see women as powerful, capable, independent human beings. And then they accuse us of misogyny.

It shows feminists have no idea about men's lives and instead imagine men to be some kind of demi-gods.

EmirikolWoker · 2022-07-10T09:08:07+00:00

how we should not be whining about losing rights as men

"Whining". I hope you're not also one of the people saying that men should open up about their vulnerabilities, because that would be super hypocritical.

They aren’t getting laws forced on their bodies

Every law limits what you can do (with your body, because what else are you using). In the US, your right to vote as a man is dependent on signing up for conscription, where your body will be required to go to certain places and do certain things, with risk of harm. If your partner forgoes her myriad of options and has a child, you are required to work to pay for the child whom you had no say in, or your body will be imprisoned.

they don’t have to walk the streets scared to be men

Nor do women - nobody has to be scared. If you're talking about violent crime stats, though, men are the majority (by a good ~90%) of victims of violent crime.

they aren’t treated like nothing but sex toys

No, they're treated as sex predators.

and objects,

Workers.

they aren’t getting murdered or assaulted just because they’re men

OK, so you were saying that women are required to feel fear earlier. Same rebuttal - men are ~90% of victims of violent crime.

they have the vote

Where do you live? Men and women can vote. In the US, womens' vote is free, while mens' is on the condition of civil and military conscription.

they decided what happens in afab people’s bodies

All men are the lawmakers, are they? You know there were women and POC in the SCOTUS too, right? Are women and black people responsible too?

they have far more legal rights than women

A few rights that women have and men lack are:

Presumed custody of children in the case of divorce. This was exacerbated by the Tender Years Doctrine, spearheaded by first-wave feminist Caroline Norton, and perpetuated by modern feminists through lobbying groups' efforts against rebuttable presumed shared custody.
Seperation of consent to sex from consent to parenthood and the responsibilities thereof. Feminist commentators have said that a unilaterally male-controlled contraceptive would "take away womens' choices".
Bodily integrity (i.e., genital mutilation. For girls its a violation of international law; for men it's at best unusual but tolerable, and at worst actively campaigned for as an eroneous means of combating AIDS). Feminists, while claiming to be advocates for "equality", are curiously quiet on this issue, compared to their efforts on FGM.
Immunity from accusations of rape. Rape requires the perpetrator to have a penis, so when women engage in nonconsentual sex with men, he is more likely to be charged than she is. This is mainly the work of Feminist researcher Mary Koss, from whom feminists get the eroneous 1-in-4 statistic. And if a woman gets pregnant from raping a man (or boy), she can sue her rape victim for child support.

they aren’t forced to bare children even if it kills them

They are forced to have responsibility of parenthood even though they have no say in whether a child comes to term. Women, on the other hand, have far more unilateral contraceptive options, access to abortion (in some states), adoption, and safe haven abandonment in the US. Men cannot give up parenthood responsibilities like women can.

they are listened to

You're clearly demonstrating this when you call it "whining".

men don’t get genuine medical issues diagnosed as ‘male hysteria’

"Toxic Masculinity".

they aren’t forced to get life risking abortions to not have a baby

No. They're forced to work (possibly risking injury and illness through stress or workplace conditions) on pain of imprisonment to support a child in whom they have no say.

men have more rights than women

See above.

they always get the advantage, they don’t suffer from patriarchal ‘misandry’,

Gaps showing black people to be a disadvantaged group in the US have comparable or greater gaps favouring women. Are black people privileged like men as a wider group, or are men disadvantaged like black people?

they don’t get pushed into a bunch of shitty things just because they’re men.

Currently only men are legally capable of rape, and due process is being steadily erroded to ensure conviction regardless of silly things like "innocence". I'd say being labeled a rapist when you're not is a shitty thing.

So stop crying about some stupid post

But do express your feelings, gentlemen.

actually fix the issues of femicide and misogyny-based issues.

Men are ~90% of victims of violent crime including murder.

Probably gonna get deleted because y’all are whiny bitches

How compassionate.

1/5 women are sexually assaulted by college age

Wrong. That comes from Mary Koss' study, which lumps sexual harrasment (such as being asked to dance at a club by someone one doesn't find attractive) in with rape (and further defends the "rape requires a penis" position, erasing female perpetrators.

Try listening and engaging.

DutchOnionKnight · 2022-07-10T08:54:12+00:00

I've never read something as dumb as this. FFS. If you don't know what you are talking about, just don't say anything. Now, go back to the kitchen and make me a sandwhich.

Edit: You really said this: "The reason only men had to go to war in the first place is based in misogyny 😭". Holy shit, you don't know anything about the world.

PandaFoo1 · 2022-07-10T09:15:17+00:00

Where to begin with this?

Men make up most murder victims, homelessness & suicides.

Men are forced to die for the state of war breaks out & have no say in it.

Majority of men who killed themselves sought help beforehand, but they still didn’t get the help they needed.

Women make up more college students then men & still get sex-exclusive scholarships solely for being women.

Women have their own struggles too, but acting like men are in any way privileged or “have it good” is laughable in how disconnected from reality it is.

Edit: Thanks for bringing up “femicide” because I almost forgot to mention countries like Malta have legally made it so men’s lives are worth less than women if they’re murdered.

dw87190 · 2022-07-10T09:20:09+00:00

Not one thing you've just stated here is true. And your one in five statistic is bullshit because that calculation falsely assumes all claims are truthful

DemonDriven013 · 2022-07-10T09:29:11+00:00

I'm gay. So, yes, I know how it feels to have to fear for your life. Sex object, hey, been there also. Oh and 90 percent of gay men are sexually assaulted before middle school. Not all men are the same just so you know.

Intergalacticio · 2022-07-10T09:33:29+00:00

Try reading up what the u/thetinmenblog has to say. They’ve got some pretty concise takes on these issues.

NutsLikeMelons · 2022-07-10T09:41:03+00:00

Tell me you’re a pink haired shouty single mother without telling me.

mikesteane · 2022-07-10T09:22:24+00:00

They aren’t getting laws forced on their bodies

They can be mutilated at birth.

they don’t have to walk the streets scared to be men

Men are very much more likely to be attacked and/or murdered than women.

In the US that is dependent on registering for selective service for men, but not for women.

they aren’t treated like nothing but sex toys and objects

Sometimes they are. Sometimes women present themselves as nothing more than that.

they have far more legal rights than women

Name a single legal right a man has that a woman does not

they aren’t forced to bare children even if it kills them

They have no choices after conception. Women have many.

they are listened to

Women are listened to much more, hence the importance of female MRAs.

men have more rights than women

You're repeating yourself. I'll repeat myself: Name a single legal right men have that women do not.

they always get the advantage,

What does that mean?

they don’t suffer from patriarchal ‘misandry'

No, patriarchy doesn't exist.

They don’t get pushed into a bunch of shitty things just because they’re men

Nearly all the really hard, dirty and/or dangerous jobs are done by men.

Probably gonna get deleted

I'm betting you'll remove it yourself when you don't get the reaction you think you will provoke.

1/5 women are sexually assaulted by college age

A garbage statistic. In the US 1/2 boys has been sexually assaulted before he gets home after being born.

Edit: removed 8 minutes after my prediction.

ElectricPanda-123 · 2022-07-10T09:31:03+00:00

The society won't even accept a man who has been falsely accused of rape even though the claim is false and the woman who raised the claim would be walking free having to face no major issues. Btw i would like to know a single law which only men have.

arrouk · 2022-07-10T09:35:15+00:00

Given the other 8 or 9 forms of birth control women have they shouldn't be wining about the abortion laws either, go figure.

Op is an idiot.

mikesteane · 2022-07-10T09:36:46+00:00

OP: you need to re-think your entire outlook on life. The attitude you have is not likely to lead to success in any meaningful sense of the word, it is only likely to give you a scapegoat for your own failings. Don't make this mistake so early in life.

Ferbuggity · 2022-07-10T09:56:07+00:00

People like you are why I will never be a feminist.

That, and the patriarchy doesn't exist.

/dab

DepressedDandylion · 2022-07-10T09:29:04+00:00

You are too detached from reality to realize that you have an inferiority complex and you probably blame men for all your problems. I hope you get the help you need

Arrathall · 2022-07-10T10:17:34+00:00

"Men have more.rights than women" that is objectively false

maxlvb · 2022-07-10T10:23:09+00:00

Oh look, today's feminist troll trying to justify their sexism, misandry, and hatred of men... 🤣🤣🤣

How exactly did I or many many other men who are not rapists or misogynists hurt you?

Inside most feminists is a misandrist totalitarian screaming to get out. They don't like having another point of view in the room and they try to squash it by character assassination and name calling.

Punder_man · 2022-07-10T10:43:24+00:00

and how we should not be whining about losing rights as men.

I'm sorry.. but haven't feminists been saying for years "Feminism is about lifting women UP not tearing men DOWN"But here you are saying that we shouldn't "Be whining about losing rights as men"Would you have the same opinion if women had to share the right to genital integrity with men if women complained about "How unfair it is"?

they don’t have to walk the streets scared to be men

Speak for yourself.. there are many men who are scared to walk the streets a night by themselves.. They just don't let that fear control them.

they aren’t treated like nothing but sex toys and objects

Men are treated as disposable by society to the point that if a man is homeless that is considered the 'default' position.. but when a woman is homeless then society has failed her and we need to do better.Also, men are treated as walking ATM's for the express benefit of women.

they have the vote

Unless you're talking about some 3rd world countries.. this point doesn't make sense.. Women HAVE the right to vote.. so you bringing this up is extremely stupid.

they have far more legal rights than women

Give me ONE example of a legal right that men have that women do not and I will then provide you THREE legal rights women have that men do not.

they always get the advantage, they don’t suffer from patriarchal ‘misandry’,
they don’t get pushed into a bunch of shitty things just because they’re men.

Men will never be oppressed just for being men, misogyny benefits males.

Oh yes.. men REALLY have it good and are advantaged when it comes to the criminal justice system where with out obvious advantages and misogynistic patriarchal system men are flat out 50% more likely to be sentenced to jail than women.. AND they receive prison sentences which are on average 60% longer than what a women would get if she is sentenced to jail for the same crime..

Oh yes.. what a fantastic system designed to benefit men the criminal justice system is.. I can literally fell the male privilege oozing out of the court house..

Men are also constantly targeted by misandry, however no one calls it out because of the narrative pushed by feminists about how "Women are the oppressed group, and you can't be sexist against your oppressors" and thus women get away with things like #KillALLMen where as if a man were to say #KillALLWomen it would be labeled as hate speech and he would end up on multiple watch lists.

Yes, the majority of CEO's are men.. however the majority of the people doing the disgusting, dirty, dangerous and physically taxing jobs are also MEN Yet feminists treat men as if they are all CEO's when in reality only like 1-8% of Men in general would be CEO's

I don't know why I put so much effort into a low effort troll post but what can ya do?
Thank you to the troll for coming along so that we can debunk your inane arguments for others to see..

mikesteane · 2022-07-11T01:35:18+00:00

Original post: I know all the men will snap at this and get really angry because ‘mens’ rights!’ But let’s talk about how good men have it and how we should not be whining about losing rights as men. They aren’t getting laws forced on their bodies, they don’t have to walk the streets scared to be men, they aren’t treated like nothing but sex toys and objects, they aren’t getting murdered or assaulted just because they’re men, they have the vote, they decided what happens in afab people’s bodies, they have far more legal rights than women, they aren’t forced to bare children even if it kills them, they are listened to, men don’t get genuine medical issues diagnosed as ‘male hysteria’, they aren’t forced to get life risking abortions to not have a baby, men have more rights than women, they always get the advantage, they don’t suffer from patriarchal ‘misandry’, they don’t get pushed into a bunch of shitty things just because they’re men.

Men will never be oppressed just for being men, misogyny benefits males.

So stop crying about some stupid post and actually fix the issues of femicide and misogyny-based issues.

💀Probably gonna get deleted because y’all are whiny bitches about women being pissed off at men. 1/5 women are sexually assaulted by college age :(

Title	Men have it good
Author	Frequent_Mix_8251
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Comments	71
Date	July 10, 2022 8:51 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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