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Professor solicits dick pics for study. "One man hasn’t tried to have a relationship in a decade — because of a joke a co-worker made in the break room..."

GreasedLightning

July 11, 2018
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https://nypost.com/2018/06/26/professor-wants-pictures-of-penises-for-science/
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Title Professor solicits dick pics for study. "One man hasn’t tried to have a relationship in a decade — because of a joke a co-worker made in the break room..."
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GreasedLightning

Upvotes 59
Comments 22
Date July 11, 2018 10:50 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8y4afq/professor_solicits_dick_pics_for_study_one_man/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/professor-solicits-dick-pics-for-study-one-man.1186342
https://theredarchive.com/post/1186342
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[–]GreasedLightning[S] 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

Update:

So this lady went on to complain about the responses she got. She closed the study as well.

Sounds to me like an Anita Sarkeesian situation to me. She conducts a study with the most click bait sounding premise that baaaaaasically reduces the value of men to a matter of inches (as if we weren't already on the daily), then acts surprised when she gets backlash.

Really? I would absolutely expect backlash if I solicited nudes from women.

Edit: So this lady's also an author. Shes got a book out there called The Secret Life of the Cheating Wife: Power, Pragmatism, and Pleasure in Women's Infidelity. I have a hard time believing the woman who's conducting "Send me dick pics" study is as sympathetic as she sounds.

Edit 2: So I'm editing this as I go along and I read her Feminist Reflections (of course they're involved) article. Clearly she seemed to have academic endeavors. However, I believe that if she were to have just approached the topic in a more understanding way she would not have gotten the backlash that she did. She advocated for measuring dicks at night clubs and hospitals. That sounds pretty...

If I were to correlate intelligence to skin color, I will rightfully get massive loads of complaints over it. You are treading over a sensitive topic pretty carelessly.

[–]tenchineuro 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Really? I would absolutely expect backlash if I solicited nudes from women.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/facebook-nude-photos-revenge-porn-upload-pictures-images-safety-a8365646.html

FACEBOOK ASKS USERS TO UPLOAD NUDE PHOTOS TO ENSURE THEY ARE NOT USED FOR 'REVENGE PORN'


What could possibly go wrong?

[–]mwobuddy 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The fact that posting nudes on facebook is grounds for automatic account deletion?

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that posting nudes on facebook is grounds for automatic account deletion?

Really? I don't do facebook, so this is news to me. But given that, facebook asking for you to upload nudes seems quite odd. I don't recall reading anywhere that this was fake news.

[–]mwobuddy 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Really? I would absolutely expect backlash if I solicited nudes from women.

Nah, become a professor then ask for women to take pics of their vaginas. It'll totally be cool, bro.

[–]mgtowolf 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I am doing a beef curtain study!"

[–]turbulance4 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I have to stand in opposition to your comment here. I don't see anything wrong with the research she was doing. In fact, it may had been quite beneficial to men's rights had the study continued. There is definitely room for discovery about how exactly penis size effects men's health (physiologically and psychologically).

I live in the same state and feel almost certain this research was not shut done by an identity politics backlash (feminism vs MRM) but because of conservative traditional values. I assume someone above her at the University must have pressured her to shut it down to save the University from embarrassment.

If I were to correlate intelligence to skin color, I will rightfully get massive loads of complaints over it.

I disagree with the word "rightfully" in this sentence. If you are doing research you should report facts. Amount of backlash over it is moot.

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I have to stand in opposition to your comment here. I don't see anything wrong with the research she was doing. In fact, it may had been quite beneficial to men's rights had the study continued. There is definitely room for discovery about how exactly penis size effects men's health (physiologically and psychologically).

I don't see how she's gonna get accurate length measurements from a picture, OK, I checked the article.

-- As part of her survey, men 22 and older are asked to measure themselves using a specific scientific method; the photos are used to make sure guys did it right and then are deleted. There’s also an interview segment of the research that doesn’t require pictures.

Reading further.

--“We need to be talking about men’s body dysmorphia, and the way our society worships size and the way that worship impacts men,” Walker said.

--“It really is incredibly damaging,” she added. “They can’t admit that they feel this. Imagine carrying around all this anxiety about your body and then imagine you can’t even tell your friends?”

So it sounds like she already has evidence to this effect, but I don't see this research leading to any treatments or help for men afflicted, and it's not like society bends over backwards to help men in need.

[–]turbulance4 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So it sounds like she already has evidence to this effect, but I don't see this research leading to any treatments or help for men afflicted, and it's not like society bends over backwards to help men in need.

Meh, she has assumptions, I share similar assumptions. There has to be research to confirm the assumptions before treatment is discussed.

[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh, she has assumptions, I share similar assumptions. There has to be research to confirm the assumptions before treatment is discussed.

I'm not sure that the way she was soliciting research material would yield useful data, selection bias and all that.

This would be a hard study to design.

[–]serial_crusher 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After reading the first article, I can't fathom why anybody would send her hate mail over this. What's to be upset about?

[–]Tedesche 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

All that’s missing is a Facebook campaign shaming women for their toxic femininity. /s

Glad someone is researching this though.

[–]GreasedLightning[S] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's sad because that is where we're at. At least somebody tried it. We should be fucking pioneering this shit around here.

[–]Sininenn 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I am actually a bit worried about her pre-conceived notions about the relationship between a man's perception of his penis and his self-esteem.

Would she attribute low self esteem solely to penis size? Or does she also look into other body image issues, such as height, weight, body and facial hair (or lack thereof), body proportions (pelvis to shoulders ratio, for example) and so on?

I feel that if she really wants to do anything about it, focusing solely on penises is pretty shallow. It'd be like rating women's self-esteem based on their breast size.

[–]Sininenn 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd be very interested in trying to measure the weight of a selection of these categories, to see which ones are the most dominant ones.

My hypothesis is that weight is the primary factor of self-esteem, as it's correlation to attractiveness (or eye-catching) is quite universal across both genders.

If we're talking about gender-specific traits, that's a different study, also equally interesting.

[–]Tedesche 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Give it time. As more researchers start studying men’s issues, it will begin to snowball.

[–]tenchineuro 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She might start with Anthony Weiner.

[–]goodmod[M] [score hidden] 8 years ago stickied comment (2 children) | Copy Link

Stickied: Even though this study doesn't seem particularly serious, it does raise a serious issue.

Men suffer from body issues just like women do. However, there are important differences. In this case, it's difficult for men to assess where they really stand in the "size" stakes. That has serious psychological ramifications for many.

Request: Some years ago I came across a website that was dedicated to serious non-pornographic study of the varieties of penis shape and size. It had dozens, if not hundreds of black and white photos showing an amazing variety of penises in profile.

Unfortunately, I've lost track of it. That site would be an invaluable resource to men who are insecure about their penis. Can anyone find it, please?

[–]mwobuddy 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So you're saying they'll get mad and join the tea party?

On a serious note, the research has shown a marked increase in body appearance displeasure for men over the last 20 or so years. Hmm, right about when this insanity started ramping up. Coincidence?

Anyway, guys are worried about more than just dick size. Balding? Gray hair? Face getting that "old man" look? Dad bod? Even fatter and less desirable than that? And on and on.

Men have been the biggest source of growth for plastic surgery industry and cosmetic industry for the last 20 years. This is what we've come to, because remember 80% of men are "ugly".

Yet of course there's no problem here, and r/braincels is completely wrong, women would just love you if your personality was better... oh, except they date rich football players who beat their kids and dogs. Smh.

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[–]thrway_1000 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She canceled the research because of outrage over this.

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[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

According to this...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/penis-size-study-cut-short-men-submit-cartoon-genitals-missouri-state-university-a8429456.html

An academic has been forced to abandon research into how penis size affects a man’s life after participants submitted pictures of cartoon characters instead of their genitals.

Alicia Walker, an assistant professor of sociology at Missouri State University, cancelled a study which sought images of more than 3,600 penises. 

She said the “the public reaction to the project” meant “the reliability of the study as a whole has been compromised”.

---

But she was forced to halt the research after it made headlines around the world and led to her being bombarded with hundreds of submissions a day, many with “joke answers” to the survey.

“I made this decision voluntarily,” Dr Walker said, in a statement issued by her university.

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