Question for guys in this subreddit

ThePigmanAgain · 2021-12-30T22:17:31+00:00

No.
Romantic relationships are not what this sub is about.
In the Third World, women have genuine problems that need to be fixed. In the Western world they have fake problems like air-con, manspreading, and small wrists in Frozen.

DavidByron2 · 2021-12-30T22:32:20+00:00

the many difficulties faced by women

like what?

63daddy · 2021-12-30T20:30:21+00:00

Yes, I’ve have had bad breakups, but most have been amicable.
I think men’s rights is about equal rights for men as well as unfair issues men may face.
I think people all over the world face all sorts of problems, most of which are not gender specific but get turned into gender politics. I believe nobody should be discriminated against because of their race or sex and we should help all victims regardless of sex. We often see the UN, Red Cross and other organizations helping the female victims and sometimes children while ignoring male victims.

I recently saw a Ted Talk by Cassie Jaye. She said in researching her film she never came across a MRA who said women didn’t deserve equal rights or that women shouldn’t be helped.

Algiz56 · 2021-12-30T21:05:54+00:00

Have most of you seen or been through bad breakups with women

Idk about most of guys. I can say that I had been. Several times,but it did not influenced my view on women. There are nice ones, also there are bad ones. Nothing new here.

What is men's rights about, should we not be trying to understand what's at the root of dysfunctional romantic relationships in our societies?

Should, of course.

How do guys here see the many difficulties faced by women around the world? Do you see it as being important?

Around the world? Yes. In developed countries? Most of said "problems" are either feminism or broken nail.

TheSnesLord · 2021-12-31T03:52:23+00:00

Another tedious "muh women have it worse!!" white knight.

Partofrhe · 2021-12-31T05:59:12+00:00

You're just a low tier feminist trying to either mess with people or find reason to get more involved in being a feminist. Some feminists are trying to help all be equal, but most of them like you seem to disapprove of equal rights for men and ignore their problems instead of acknowledging womens' and mens' problems equally. Get out of here.

Fast_Box_8509 · 2021-12-30T21:17:09+00:00

Have most of you seen or been through bad breakups with women?

I've heard of more than I've seen. They aren't fun.

What is men's rights about, should we not be trying to understand what's at the root of dysfunctional romantic relationships in our societies?

How do you differentiate between what's just a good old-fashioned breakdown in communication, formation of irreconcilable differences, passions and interests that eventually pull people apart and situations where men are escaping abuse and manipulation from women?

How do you define that without getting into the infinitude of specifics for every single breakup and failing relationship out there? That sounds exhausting. Not something I want to talk about in massive generalizations.

How do guys here see the many difficulties faced by women around the world? Do you see it as being important?

A big misconception of people who are or are sympathetic to MGTOW is that they are misogynistic. Not the case at all. My life philosophy is informed by cursory feminism. I care plenty about issues facing women. It doesn't really seem to be the place to talk about it here, though.

FancyCrazyPhoenix · 2021-12-30T22:56:15+00:00

1 no did get fake asked out fucked up my self esteem

2 imo true equality and I don't know what that exactly is in part two of the question but I am assuming it's good so yes

3 1st world feminism is kinda junk but all for it where actually needed.

juiceboxzero · 2021-12-31T00:25:13+00:00

That depends on how you define "bad". I mean, any breakup that I didn't want was "bad" by at least that measure. I've had a few of those, but nothing "bad" in terms of like "I broke up with her and she went nuts and tried to stalk me" if that's what you mean.
This sounds like two questions, because I'm not sure what the second part has to do with the first.

What is Men's Rights about? You'll probably get 1,000 different answers from a 1,000 different people, but for me, it's about equality. Specifically, I would like to see these things changed:
- Fathers are often viewed as secondary to mothers in family law cases
- Women have unilateral control over men's parental rights and responsibilities
  - If the mother wants an abortion, there's nothing the father can do to stop it
  - If the mother wants to keep the baby, there's nothing the father can do about it, and she can force him to pay child support
- Male victims of domestic abuse have few support resources available to them; men are usually presumed to be the aggressor and women the victim in any domestic disturbance
- Services for homeless men with children is lacking, relative to support for homeless women with children
- Only men must register for the draft
Should we be trying to understand what's at the root of dysfunctional romantic relationships in our societies? Yes; to the extent that relationships are dysfunctional, root cause analysis would absolutely be beneficial.
I absolutely see the many difficulties faced by women around the world as important, and think that the human race still has some work to do in the realm of recognizing everyone's humanity.

Having said all that, your questions feel a little bit loaded to me. The way question 2 is structured comes across to me as presupposing that someone who supports men's rights would, by definition, not think it was useful or valuable to try to understand what underlies a dysfunctional relationship. The issues seem orthogonal to me, so I don't get why you've related them in this way. Likewise, question 3 comes across to me as insinuating that caring about men's issues is mutually exclusive from caring about women's issues.

No one cares about one and only one thing. It's entirely reasonable, for instance, for a person to care both about suppression of women's rights in countries governed by Islamic law, and the prevalence of male genital mutilation (circumcision) in the United States. The way your questions are worded, however, it sounds like you are of the belief that it's not worth caring about some things because other things are problems too, in other words, it sounds like whataboutism ("sure this is unfair to men, but what about...").

I may be inaccurately characterizing your intent, but that's how your questions came across to me.

chasum_ · 2021-12-31T00:53:42+00:00

Yes.
Kindly & carefully watch https://youtu.be/3WMuzhQXJoY
Equally paramount to fix them as men’s rights. However they are the overwhelmingly predominant human rights issues that society is currently willing to tackle (boys & men’s are ignored so much that many if not most people do not even know what these issues are, including men themselves). As per 2., it takes a woman to wake both men and women up to that reality.

I dream of a world in which individuals strive to embody a share of the divine feminine and masculine, together.

Ghironsing · 2021-12-31T11:33:36+00:00

No, not particularly bad.
Mens rights? Equality under law. Relationship degradation of the sexes? I feel like I know the driving forces, but no one will listen.
Depends on the difficulties you refer to. I sympathize with suffering people, but sometimes you gotta man up and carry your load. Sometimes it’s just a shit-pie, and everyone gets a slice. Men shouldn’t be the only ones a society force-feeds difficulty to.

In summary: Womens issues are mens issues, mens issues are womens issues. We’re one species, don’t get it twisted.

Title	Question for guys in this subreddit
Author	Silly-Cloud-3114
Upvotes	0
Comments	50
Date	December 30, 2021 8:13 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/rsazg7/question_for_guys_in_this_subreddit/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/question-for-guys-in-this-subreddit.1089878 https://theredarchive.com/post/1089878

Comments