Research paper: Nation-states created selection bias against male violence over a thousand years

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-07-18T02:52:56+00:00

interesting find! Thx for sharing.

PlzSendDunes · 2023-07-18T08:02:17+00:00

There are more to loose if you are now, as compared in the past, violent. In the middle ages you probably live in a shack with plenty of other people, working 12 hours a day, serving a master, while having little to no property of your own. Now people have homes or rent them, jobs which they can relatively easy to switch instead of being constantly on the brink of starvation, have phones, cars, education, healthcare(if you're not from US), pensions and all kind of other tangible things at home.

In essence if you have things/relationships that you can lose for not controlling your urges and there are mechanisms which effectively will punish you, you will be less likely to be violent or commit other crime. After all within 100 years crimes in developed countries plummeted to very low numbers, so genetically we barely even changed, but there were plenty of changes regarding wealth, knowledge and social welfare available to ordinary men.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-07-18T09:09:19+00:00

Now that state is condoning female violence against men and it is protecting female perps, we can expect the inevitable rise of female violence against men?

denisc9918 · 2023-07-18T04:42:51+00:00

Thank You.

KochiraJin · 2023-07-18T07:18:57+00:00

Something to think about: The fox domestication experiment reversed their aversion to humans in 40 generations. The time period the paper sets out for the selection bias is about 700 years. If human generations are 20 years, that's a bit shy of the 800 years it would take for a level of change comparable to domestication at the selection level of the fox experiment.

Ill-Truck-8077 · 2023-07-18T08:56:59+00:00

This, however, leads to other issues. The state/powerful having a monopoly on violence by selecting males who still retain these traits is incredibly dangerous and leads to top-down authoritarianism, and it's ultimately incompatible with democracy and freedom. Gun deterrence might help, but other than in the US, it's pretty much controlled by the same elites that hold the monopoly on violence.

Violent men are also much more attractive to women, which leads to social issues and tension.

Overall, I think violence should be heavily punished, but there should always be a firearm deterrent. The powerful should be very wary of their actions.

Title	Research paper: Nation-states created selection bias against male violence over a thousand years
Author	goodmod
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Date	July 18, 2023 2:46 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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