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[–]outhouse_steakhouse37 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Hillary Clinton doesn't hold political power.
Oprah Winfrey doesn't hold economic power.
The queen of England doesn't hold institutional power.
Sounds legit.
[–]BadinBoarder6 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I've said that the 2 most influential ppl in America are Obama and Oprah. Whatever either of them said, it would be breaking news and they would have a nation of followers. Oprah may even have more influence than Obama because most of the nation hates him.
[–]profOhk6 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Obama isn't nearly influential. If the media didn't talk about him once in a while, you could easily forget he was President. I agree about Oprah though.
[–]HAQ_be1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
oprah = media
[–]Essemd4 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
They're not women, they're trans men and just happen to have a vagina. If you identify as a woman you give up all rights and power. Everyone knows that!
[–]cypher1971 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Thatcher was just a hallucination. Never happened.
[–]AnarchCassius23 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
There is no such thing as reverse racism or reverse sexism. These things are merely further examples of racism and sexism.
[–]Roddy06084 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yeah, they got the first sentence right.
[–]User-31f64a4e1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
True - there is only racism and sexism, in whatever direction.
And, note the bullshit where it says "there is no such thing as the reverse of any form of oppression."
Without conceding that bullshit, note that "Mens Rights" doesn't need a new name, because the group is not named after reverse sexism or reverse racism.
This is typical feminist "thought" - irrational, factually incorrect, incoherent, stupid.
[–]SporkTornado17 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Does this mean I can't be racist or sexist no matter what I do, because I don't have any political, institutional or economic power.
[–]StuntPotato10 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yes. The world is now your oysters, enjoy it :)
[–]deadalnix3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I can't either, that wonderful. How are you, negros and bitches ? Happy to see I'm not racist nor sexist ?
[–]timoppenheimer3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Especially when you travel to foreign countries???
[–]yelirbear8 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yeah that's feminist denial at its core.
[–]DavidByron27 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Note the unspoken assumption:
all men have political economic and social power
We're all in charge you see. This is evidence that feminism is a hate movement. To the hate monger the hated group are not individuals, they aren't really human at all. They are just a mass of nasty evil threat working together to destroy the nice people. As in "patriarchy" and other racist or prejudicial conspiracy theories put out by hate groups.
Feminists literally believe that all men are powerful because the president is a man. Even if he isn't a man of course. men are inherently evil and a threat so it never matter what a woman does to a man because they are the enemy.
[–]MrMontage6 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Semantic based arguments are paper thin. Just because you create arbitrary distinctions and then declare them significant doesn't make them so.
[–]Thepaladinofchaos5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
That's way too upsetting for a wednesday afternoon
[–]ctlawguy5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Under this reasoning, a black man could not be sexist. Black people, of which black men are a subset, do not have institutional power (and feminists would not argue otherwise).
The only counterargument is that a black man only has institutional power with respect to gender, which makes no sense. You are both oppressor and oppressed at the same time. How does that work?
[–]ezetemp3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Yes, it took feminists about 50 years to figure that out, which led to intersectionality, which adds multiple dimensions of oppression.
If they continue in this pace it'll probably take a century or something and they'll realize that intersectionality leads to individuality, where each individual is affected by so many factors as to give each and everyone their own unique problems and positions in an infinite amount of intersections, and that addressing problems on the basis of statistic prevalence of irrelevant traits will lead to redistribution of inequity, not resolution of a problem (ie, quotas for women mean black men get even worse off, quotas for women and black men means trans hispanics are even worse off, quotas for women, black men, trans hispanics mean differently abled are worse off, etc).
Then someone will think that's all too complex and doesn't give you enough easy slogans and it makes their head hurt so they take a cursory look and come up with the idea that some individuals a specific trait such as the shape of their genitals are statistically overrepresented in certain outcomes and come back with the conclusion that it's the shape of the genitals that is oppressed. And we're back at square 1.
[–]ctlawguy1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Agreed. It was clearly invented by people thinking only along the dimension of gender. They didn't consider their ideas enough to figure out that, in the real world, they make no sense.
This is the major problem with SJWs.
[–]Matt_Why2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Well you could be oppressed and be the oppressor at the same time. Like the story of The king kicking the queen kicking the prince kicking the soldier kicking the peasant kicking the dog kicking the cat kicking the mouse kicking the cricket kicking the ant kicking your mom kicking the parasite kicking the bacteria kicking the virus.
[–]ctlawguy2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What you describe is a clear hierarchy.
Who's above whom between a black man and a white woman? That's what I'm talking about.
That's why they say, "check your privilege." You have to see how high up you and the other party are in the victim list. Depending on your position, you have to stfu and believe, or they do. If you are a white male, you do not matter and are not at liberty to say a thing; just pay taxes and stfu.
[–]eletheros5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's not reverse sexism, because it's just sexism.
[–]guywithaccount3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
rofl
[–]dingoperson23 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What's the source for this?
edit: never mind, I find it impossible to read that site too.
[–]yelirbear2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I was looking for it. Its somewhere on everydayfeminism.com but searching through that site aggravates me.
[–]ctlawguy3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
As I've said before, feminists' best friend, the dictionary, would beg to differ.
Sexism: "unfair treatment of people because of their sex; especially : unfair treatment of women" -Merriam Webster
no requirement of "power" here.
[–]ExpendableOne2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Even if you defined it that way, women still have political, institutional and financial power, as well as social power. Regardless of that fact, however, it is still a very idiotic thing to say. People can and still do discriminate, hate and attack men for being men. That is prejudice. Sexism is simply prejudice on the basis of gender, as opposed to other forms of prejudices. People who try to dismiss sexism against men, or downplay it as "not really sexism because women are oppressed" aren't just entirely delusional about the influence women have in just about every culture(or the powerlessness that the vast majority of men actually have as well) but are complete sociopaths, who clearly have no real empathy, concern or respect for men. By that definition, you would also have to completely dismiss all racism against black people in america as well. If you define "male power" as elected representatives who are male then, in lieu of a black president, no one can, or could have been in the last ~6 years, be racist towards black people in the USA
[–]Tomppeli2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Women spend something like two to three times more than men. Isn't that economic power when most of the economy is geared towards producing stuff and services for women? Because women make most consumer decisions they decide what is sold and where, how we live and where and so on. Those men (and women) who run the businesses try to serve these women as well as they can either directly or indirectly. Do they really have more power?
Women have huge amounts of institutional power. Let's just take a look at who run such cultural key positions as education of children or families (yes, women run most families in the sense that they tend to have the last word on most things).
It's the everyday life we live. And it's mostly women who have more power there. Men's power is more like serving others and women in particular through democracy and markets.
Guys, don't feed the trolls. This account has only one post ever on reddit, this one.
Sock puppet much?
[–]ThePigmanAgain-3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Negroes don't hold much power in the US, but if one went on a whitey-killing spree few people would have trouble calling him/her a racist. Shit, i'm pretty sure even Louis Farrakhan has said that it is possible for blacks to be racist toward whites. That's how crazy feminists are, they make less sense than Farrakhan. As for the idea that the people who make most of the purchasing decisions have no economic power, well that's just a straight out lie.
[–]HAQ_be2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
is the downvoting because he said negroes?
[–]ThePigmanAgain2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I suspect so. Good thing i didn't use the word "niggers."
[–][deleted]1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
i wonder if this dude would have gotten down voted if he said "blacks" instead of negroes seeing as how negro mean black so i shall upvote and im a negro
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