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This article actually states "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more."

aarkhaelias

December 28, 2021
141 upvotes
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https://www.revelist.com/career/average-porn-salaries/851
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Title This article actually states "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more."
Author

aarkhaelias

Upvotes 141
Comments 28
Date December 28, 2021 9:21 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/rqq1nq/this_article_actually_states_pay_gap_is_bad/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/this-article-actually-states-pay-gap-is-bad-except.1090197
https://theredarchive.com/post/1090197
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[–]Dr-Plague-Channel 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men earns more than women: pay gap

Women earns more then men: equality

[–]riverview_man 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wrong.

Women earns more than men: not enough

[–]Guzkim_Chizax 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The most interesting thing in this article to me is the table of salaries because of what is broken down and what isn’t broken down. I can’t help but find it funny that it has two slots for women performers and only one for men. I can’t help but wonder what the mens categories would look like if you divided it up into straight and gay categories. Can’t help but think there’s a reason they didn’t.

[–]trumpismodest 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There isn't even a pay gap. You can't compare the sum average of all mens earnings and then the sum average of all womens earnings and say look men are earning more, because there needs to be context like which jobs, job experience, education, competence, pay negotiation, profitability to employer, etc. That's like saying doctors and engineers (more men take up these roles) earn more than teachers and nurses (more women take up these roles), it's pointless. And even if you do do that you have to take into account the average hours worked per year for both men and women. It is highly illegal for an employer to underpay a woman due to her sex so if women feel they are being subjected to sexism, they can literally earn millions of dollars in rewards due to how feminized the court system is. But at the end of day equality has been achieved, and has been the case for decades, a women can apply for any job she desires and there is nothing going to get in the way except herself. Why aren't women happier about that? It's not enough for women to have equality in terms of job choices, they want to get more money just because of their sex, and they want more board seat positions just because of their sex. That is beyond equality, that is being privileged by way of their sex.

[–]Sperm40mmSprintChamp 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am genuinely exhausted of the double standards. And it's so much worse when one side seems to get a tremendous amount of benefits just complains ad nauseam.

Know what ladies, if you think men make more, go do porn. Shit or get off the pot.

[–]SpookeyClown 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Remember, it's only sexist when men do it.

[–]riverview_man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

💯

[–]aarkhaelias[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Up until the end, this was a nice article, showcasing that there is a pay gap in porn that women benefit from, but then there's this:

it's sad that there are only 10 identified jobs where women earn more than men, because most often working women earn 79% of what men earn.

And this:

On the plus side though, it is nice to know that women in porn get paid competitively in comparison to men

[–]MensRightsBrit 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When a man earns more than a woman, it's misogyny and a sign of the "patriarchy", but when a woman earns more than a man, it's good because it's "competitive"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It has to be a consistent issue in a company that is documented before they can do anything

[–]rrkmonger_reborn 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no pay Gao. Just entitles little princesses that weren't taught how real world works. Man west is a cesspool of entitlement and hypocrisy.

[–]Lucky_Imagination_79 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are more acceptable to low salaries than men
that's it

[–]TAPriceCTR 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

feminists have literally declared that "partiality" is a feminist ethic. the only way feminism can surprise me is by gaining converts, I don't think there is an amount of maddening hypocrisy or other bias that is beyond them.

[–]PurpleGothicAngel 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny how they fail to mention that men aren't paid that much for straight porn. If they want to make any money, they have to do gay porn. I saw this on a docutmery about the porn industry, forget what it was called.

[–]riverview_man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pay gap isn't a thing. Supply and demand is

[–]EstablishmentKooky50 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Thats great, because single women actually do earn more.. No one cares about that gap.. How about women making 80% of consumer choices? Who are the "oppressed" (if anyone), those making more money or those essentially spending it?

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

" 80% of consumer choices" more like 80% of scummy consumerism pressure on their partners, using partner's money. Just another reason why she should have no right to be informed on his earnings. At all.

[–]EstablishmentKooky50 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Well, if you want your finances to be safe, you should never share your full earnings (unless you vetted her thoroughly first and found that she can handle it with decency. Even then, caution is advised). I made that mistake once and it almost got me wrecked, haven't been able to fully recover ever since and it will take about an other 8-10 years. I can't even blame her for it..

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

True, but such restrictiona should be put into law, not just "common sense". Of course women would have it worse, but oh well...time for them to universally be forced to actually productive work like men have to?

[–]EstablishmentKooky50 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't think that we can or even should put something like this into law. I think however that such ideas should be part of the education under the subject of "financial wellbeing" or something like that. In fact, no one should share their complete finances with anyone without proper vetting.. Women can be exploited too, even though it happens more frequently with men. That said, no one has the right to see your bank statement, "just because".. So if one insists, that should be a call for ending that relationship.

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If rape definitikn can be gendered, so can this.

[–]EstablishmentKooky50 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well, rape should not be gendered either. It's wrong enough that such gendered legislations do exist. Introducing more would only lead to more controversy.

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No such thing as wrong, unless its wrong for us. Realpolitik just...works. just ask feminists :V

[–]EstablishmentKooky50 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well.. You know it's wrong.. I know it's wrong.. That's enough, let them think whatever the fuck they want.. The proper response to injustice is justice, not more injustice. Just as you won't solve violence with violence. It never works. You may feel better for a short while for taking revenge but it's only a matter of time till someone will take revenge on you.

[+]VentusHermetis -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't "actually state" that quotation. Put more care into your titles.

[–]MensRightsBrit 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's sad that there are only 10 identified jobs where women earn more than men

On the plus side though, it is nice to know that women in porn get paid competitively in comparison to men

These two quotes which happen to lie right next to each other are pretty much saying "pay gap = bad, unless when women earn more", which is exactly what was pointed out in the title of this post. If you're complaining that the article doesn't literally word-for-word have the quote "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more", then that's a fucking pathetic gripe, because it's exactly the message that the article was giving.

[–]Huffers1010 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was actually thinking much the same thing as Ventus; your title is at least reliant on a bit of synthesis. I guess a better argument would be "just getting paid more doesn't mean it's competitive." After all, it's not like men can compete for women's roles in straight porn.

[–]MensRightsBrit 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"My" title? I didn't make this post. And second of all, where's the synthesis? Once again, it's a rephrasement of the exact message of the article put into the title of the post to highlight exactly what is wrong with it, as the article did in fact state that it's alright when women are paid more, but the other way around is considered a truly despicable situation.

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