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| 3 | Women strategy to get a husbandMmmm... The money were desired, not the extra vaginas you could fold on them... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 06:33 PM |
| 1 | A feminists wetdream🤮 | /r/AntiFeminists | 26/11/22 07:12 AM |
| 2 | Is "the wall" something that really happens to women and affects them more than men?It's interesting to see how many ppl here misconstrue RP theories. Your interpretation of the wall seems like: women over 30 are basically useless. The theory in reality: your avarage woman's peak sexual attractiveness is around the age of 23. It does not mean women are not attractive beyond that age, it means that their options with regards to suitable mates starts to decline. The same is claimed to be true for men, with the only difference that men peak around the age of 35. The above is not n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Watching porn is the same as cheatingWhat you are saying here is true and applicable for a brain that is in "problem solving mode". Yes, toughts appear when you read a text you supposed to respond to and toughts appear when you are out shopping. You can shut this all off though as you are not always problem solving or finding yourself having to interpret a text. The tought of having sex with someone other than your partner is typically in "daydream" mode. And - unless you are practiced in meditation - your stream is on and the toug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 06:22 PM |
| 2 | Watching porn is the same as cheatingIs that supposed to prove something? I mean.. I have to read "don't read" before i understand what this specific order of letters mean, no? Also being in control of your toughts means that you can actually do something with your toughts. You can repress, replace or you can embrace them, right? You can also shut them off completely or observe them from a third person perspective. I think you might be confusing toughts with urges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 05:49 PM |
| 0 | Watching porn is the same as cheatingI didn't. See? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Watching porn is the same as cheatingYou can actually control your toughts too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Watching porn is the same as cheatingYeah, thinking about it is cheating too, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/22 04:48 PM |
| 9 | “Pick better men” is a cop out to not hold men accountableSaying that “Pick better men” is a cop out to not hold men accountable Is a cop out to not hold "yourself" accountable. No one with a shred of sanity says that it's cool to be a d*ckhead, no one mitigates the seriousness of crimes like rape, no one says a dude who lies to get sex has done nothing wrong. Only, that it is very rare that there are no clear and obvious red flags, that "you" ignore despite the fact that the "nice guys" you friend zoned could tell you exactly that the dude "you" are a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 08:27 AM |
| 3 | For those of you 30+, do picky people really start to settle?Not necessarily. Some choose to stay alone instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 05:44 AM |
| 2 | What type of girl do you guys hit on?Aggreed.. With you and with Albert Brook and of course the late Kevin Samuels.. How she looks or how tall he is matters little when the bedroom is cold anyway. Better be alone lol, same results, minus the headache. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 04:12 PM |
| 10 | What type of girl do you guys hit on?As a man closing on to mid age I'd say personality matters much more then looks. There's a looks threshold, sure but I'd change an entitled high maintenance bikini model to an avarage looking girl any time, and that's regardless of my own status. I don't mind if she is a little more curvy, rather that than bones and skin, but a cute face is essential, also she has to maintain a "womanly" shape. Weight wise, I'd rather she not exceed 70-80% of my own weight. She can be short or tall, matters noug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.Cheers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.Well offense or not, it is impossible to say anything specific without knowing anything specific. Generally speaking, if you are indeed a 6 you should have no struggle getting attention. There is also something to be said about men not approaching any more. I mean at all, other then OLD, or not even that, given the general hostility and the mixed messages.. Those who do approach tend to be the ones with thicker skin or the newbies.. A lot depends on your area and whether you have a reputation (s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.I think that because there are many social experiments on the web that are contrary to your experience. Also i know quite a few down to earth men and i know how they move. The avarage woman - if not entitled or full of baggage - is the "goldilocks zone". Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that you are entitled or full of baggage... Also i am not trying to invalidate your experience or criticize you in any way, I've just simply seen much more avarage girls getting approached then not, and the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:43 PM |
| 4 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.My wife's sis is a 7 (imo) she is basically never approached, and i hardly understand why. She dresses conservatively and she is friendly and have a good sense of humor, easy to talk to as well. For some reason though men just probably see it too risky to approach or think she is unavailable. She has a "weird" vibe that says if you ain't the dude don't even try, even though this is the last thing she want to communicate. I think you guys are the exception though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 11:09 PM |
| 31 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.I think 9+ women are actually less likely to be approached for various reasons than avarage girls. Perhaps below avarage get more attention due to what you say, but i doubt that the quality of that attention is what they'd wish for. I think most men are actually more serious with avarage girls then with any other category and i do think they get approached the most. But it's just my opinion against yours so it would be interesting to see some studies.. One clue may be OnlyFans.. You see many mod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatAlthough what you say is true, I am not sure what what i said has to do with mutually satisfactory sex. That was not the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Self identifying Blue pilled people....are you successful in love...and if so....MAYBE youre blue pilled BECAUSE of that, not despite thatThinking back when i didn't know anything about the pills and the manosphre.. It's not that i wasn't successful in dating, i could get dates when i actually put in some effort.. It's more like i couldn't hold down a relationship and i got involved in some really toxic ones as i had this childish mindset that women are angels, perfect and can do no wrong. My relationships gone sideways so i slipped to the other side and started to blame women for it, thinking i am doing everything right, because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 07:18 AM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?It may be so, but i understood as OP is talking about what does it mean to "have your shit together" and i just gave my two cents about that. I think to most women, what the phrase means is what i described. Basically be anything but a liability. That's kind of the "entry point", the pre requisite to start dating seriously when you are a man. If you can't have that much, you have bo reason to complain but if she expects you to have much more then that, she is probably just after the money and it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 07:58 PM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?... worth your time to take her seriously. Well if she is after the money, she wouldn't take the dude described above seriously either so it doesn't really matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | What does "having your shit together" even mean?considering it's lower classes that are out-fucking and reproducing way more than the uppity managerial middle/upper classes, there is no evidence whatsoever that "having your shit together" will get you a girlfriend, much less a wife... Just turn it the other way around. You reckon if you don't have "your shit together", decent women are willing to even look at your way? I mean as a man, you can be anything except a liability... It's not so hard, having your shit together basically means, take … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 06:07 PM |
| 5 | It's not enough for a man to THINK he is pulling his weight domestically.I would like to think that my partner is an adult human being, capable of communicating when something bugs her. Thing is, you can't put blame or get upset if your partner does not do what you never told him/her to do, just as you can't complain when your boundaries are crossed if you never laid them out clearly in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 02:54 PM |
| 1 | If women are Hypergamous, manosphere men want thatWell if you watch "manosphre" dudes who worth a dime (like Rollo Tomassi) talking about these things you may quickly realize that what you say is nothing new really.. Yeah hypergamy - when excercised realistically - is a good thing. If anything, there should be more not less of it.. You can't blame a woman for not wanting to do anything with a man below her level. I mean, why would she want that? It's not that the manosphre carves for hypergamy, it's more like, it is what it is.. But of course t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:16 PM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerThanks 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 04:49 PM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerWell it is obviously useless if you have no rebuttal whatsoever and refuse to understand what i am talking about. Sure, please link it, make sure though that they do say that you should lie about it, because that is where we disaggree. Unless - of course - you think non exclusive dating itself is a problem. By the way No true Scotsman "fallacy" is fallacious. It's not a fallacy. https://youtu.be/UeJ28jYJGYM | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 04:12 PM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerNa ah, as i said, you are the ones setting the rules in regards of who gets laid and when. We are the ones setting the rules in regards of who gets commitment (at least in theory, in practice, more often then not it is on women too). "If most men had no choice" means that y'all don't give yourselves up too easy, and make some sort of commitment a pre requisite for a sexual intercourse, while also making sure that he knows that you othervise desire him and just forcing the lid on your pressure co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 04:09 PM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerNihilistic women i guess.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 03:47 PM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerRP preaches nothing at all, that's the thing... RP is a set of claims about how the world works. Those claims can be true or false, but them claims tell you absolutely 0 about how to move. People preach, not RP and they might or might not understand what those claims mean and where do they come from. Literally anyone can label themselves as dating gurus and refer themselves as red pilled and such, it doesn't mean they have a slightest idea of what they are talking about. There is nothing in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 03:11 PM |
| 4 | Why don't the AFCs (average frustrated chumps) just go to Asia?Everybody seems to think that if you are unsuccessful in dating here, you'll be king in Asia.. Chances are, if you can't understand how women move here, you'll be gutted in Asia. It's not that you just show your Dollar or Pound and women will want to f* your brains out and everything will be vanilla. I mean.. Sure, you have a big advantage being a westerner in Asia, but dude, if you do not know how to sweep trough the crowd with the ever so prevalent "rich western knight in the shining armor" dr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:42 PM |
| 0 | No men shown up on singles mixerSee Edit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:31 PM |
| 0 | No men shown up on singles mixerI would be fine if i, along with most men had no choice. You don't have to gag on my D in order be obvious for me that you desire me, and at the end of the day, desire is what matters most. You are the ones setting the rules in regards of who gets into your panties, the responsibility is yours. This is actually empowering if you think about it but for some reason y'all think saying this is some kinda victim blaming.. I am usually a subscriber of many RP findings but i disaggree when they say sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:25 PM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerYupp that sums it up allright... 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:17 PM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerWhat was the ratio in attendance of women vs. men if you don't mind me asking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:14 PM |
| -1 | No men shown up on singles mixerNot to split hairs but complaining about how suck it is to date women is only valid if you've actually tried or at least want to be involved. We are mad at the incels because they never actually invested any resource to improve themselves, get out there and try, but they cry rivers about how badly they have it and how futile this all is aniway. I am not saying that those dudes in the comments are definitely right by default, but i think it is worth taking a moment and think about this as they mi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:12 PM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerSee, i don't think that no one should be annoyed or frustrated, it's a perfectly valid emotion to have when the 10th dude walks up to you and all you want is just enjoying your drink... But of course this doesn't justify being a dick with the refusal.. And what's an appropriate space? Obviously you shouldn't approach a woman on a burial.. But i did speak to multiple women here in the past who said they do not mind to be approached at gym, while others take offense.. 22% of married couples (US) m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 01:01 PM |
| -1 | if men have to commit to women to get "wifey" behavior from women (cooking/cleaning nurturing), do women have to earn husband behavior? (financial providing, protection)Well, plenty of women still expect men to pay for dates, support them financially, buy them gifts, take them to travel and generally, be able to financially support and maintain a family.. And of course should the need arise, be ready to defend them, putting his on self interests aside, even if it means risking his own life. One would say plenty of women expect men to fulfill traditionally masculine roles. These women better be ready to cook and clean don't you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:38 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerThat's why you don't give the carrot to the donkey until you reached your destination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:24 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerI guess where the real controversy comes in is with regard to that "something else".. That's why the comments are very interesting under the initial TikTok video. And what's even more interesting is the reactions to those comments. I mean the lack of accountability/flexibility/capacity to understand and perhaps accommodate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 07:06 AM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerI mean it's not just about MGTOW really (also, you can be MGTOW without ever hearing of the community) but the manosphre at large.. There are fewer and fewer men looking for serious, committed relationships, the idea of a family is either not so appealing or a distant dream put further and further in life. From the standpoint of commitment, there is little difference between a MGTOW and a PUA dude. Thing is, you just can't build/maintain a prosperous society without healthy families and role mod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:59 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerThinking about when i was younger.. Yeah I'd probably be among those who wouldn't attend.. Putting every controversy on the topic aside, yeah it is for the exact reasons you describe. Now that i am older and went trough some shit that made me significantly more sociopathic, I'd surely go just for the fun of it and wouldn't really care about anything that would have put me off before... I don't want to be too solipsistic but i think by the age of peak attractiveness, most men do not have those is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:06 AM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerI see what you mean. Indeed i can't see a world where all men opt out of dealing with women entirely. But i slightly disaggree that it is the lack of opportunity that causing men not to engage. Surely there are men who beleive that they have no opportunities and many indeed do not, but MGTOW communities are also growing and are more prevalent then before. These dudes do have opportunities and they may even engage in short term flings from time to time, but they won't offer commitment. More and m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:53 AM |
| 3 | No men shown up on singles mixerJust the kind of response that causes all this charade for the large part. This opinion is fairly common though... In fact millions of women parroting this stereotypical and sexist BS all around the world. Sure, why not tell men that they are sex-hungry apes incapable of controlling their animalistic instincts, just because they dare to walk up to a random chick with some shitty pickup line they learned from a crook who promised them success with women. Sounds like a good idea 👍 Contrary to the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:21 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerIrl and online are two different worlds, i get that, but relationships do fall apart much more and being established far less frequently then ever before. Those fewer relationships that are established are more fragile then they used to be. If you walk down the streets you may not see any of this, and you might think, everything is just fine, but then you look at the historical data on relationships and those numbers are painting an entirely different picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 05:08 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerIt's not just technology though but it def plays a large part. But it's also about how some women react when they are approached by someone they do not find attractive enough. I can def understand women too, especially the more attractive ones who often get approached, it must be frustrating to a large degree... But i also understand the dudes who wish to talk to and approach women and mean well but being treated as sex offenders.. It seems like the sexes are not willing to see the world trough … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 03:36 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerWhich is exhausting and usually immoral because Rp preaches to not tell the women that you have other women. Sorry but that's bollocks... Red Pill preaches no such thing. Spinning plates is about non exclusive dating before commitment happens, not about having multiple relationships in the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 03:30 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerYeah that was the thing i would have loved to read people's thoughts about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 03:22 AM |
| 3 | No men shown up on singles mixerNo we don't, i don't think. That's the point of discussing things. There are a lot of factors to it from woke feminism to genuine fear of rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 03:03 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerRegardless of this being fake (it actually is, yes), the fact remains that this has gone viral and not without a reason. It is just very interesting to see how men commented the event (essentially explaining why they personally wouldn't attend either) and how a white knight and some women reacted to such comments. Fake or not, it doesn't really matter, this whole charade highlights some real issues out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:58 AM |
| 5 | No men shown up on singles mixerYou used a different word to say exactly the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:51 AM |
| 0 | No men shown up on singles mixerWell, why is that? I mean the question i posed is seemingly answered but it isn't really.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:48 AM |
| 3 | No men shown up on singles mixerNevertheless 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:38 AM |
| 12 | No men shown up on singles mixerCheers for that. Though i think the more interesting question is what happened in the comment section(s) and how people reacted IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:33 AM |
| 3 | No men shown up on singles mixerThat's a lovely stereotype 😊 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:30 AM |
| 14 | No men shown up on singles mixerwhere men do show up, and the women pass up on most or all of them and decide they'd rather stay single. Well that's kind of the crux of it all isn't it? There were many pro dating advisors working specifically with women coming out lately, saying that it has becoming increasingly impossible to find suitable matches for many women.. So why would men bother to begin with. That's exactly what the dudes were referring to in the comments. I think, the more interesting phenomena are the reactions to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:29 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerWhy though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:22 AM |
| 4 | No men shown up on singles mixerThere was a lot of women there though.. For men not to show up, but women do, it must have been advertised selectively for women only which IMO is not the best business approach on the dating market unless you organize dates for lesbians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:20 AM |
| 1 | No men shown up on singles mixerValid questions. Though i might add, if a game on tv would affect a dating event to a significant degree, that would, on it's own, be a telltale sign of some serious trouble... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:15 AM |
| 5 | No men shown up on singles mixerWhy are they "terrified" though? I think that's the more interesting question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:09 AM |
| 2 | No men shown up on singles mixerYeah fair point. It seems like men are historically under represented at such events aniway, but no men attending at all is weird, even if it only happens every once in a while. It's not even the fact that no men attended (allegedly) that is interesting, rather the comments where (some) men say why they wouldn't go and the way (some) women react... That represents a potentially far more serious problem IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:07 AM |
| 3 | No men shown up on singles mixerIt seems like as such. Praise be his name 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 12:03 AM |
| 1 | What do you think of women using frame theory?Frame has to be held by the leader in the relationship. If she wants to be the "leader" and is happy/can respect and genuinely love/desire a man who is a "follower" then i guess holding a strong frame is cool. If she is established, goal oriented, assertive etc.. she probably can't match up with the same kind of man, their relationship will likely be a hot mess involving a truckload of power and dominance struggle. Holding a strong frame also makes progressive, egalitarian relationships impossib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 04:11 AM |
| 0 | If you aren’t successful in dating, then you’re simply not attractiveAlmost all men is attractive in a college for primary schools teachers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 03:48 AM |
| 4 | "Misandry is a justifiable response to perceived misogyny"Wait, they make up stories to be mad about? Shocking... | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/06/22 01:48 PM |
| -1 | "Misandry is a justifiable response to perceived misogyny"Gosh, i think we live in a really good society when among the more serious causes you'll find the rebellion against removing the hair from one's legs.. Don't forget to remind the Congolese kids mining cobalt for the batteries we use to power our green society to rise against toxic body standards. 👍 | /r/AntiFeminists | 11/06/22 01:46 PM |
| 2 | Found this comment on YouTube. I DO NOT TAKE CREDIT!I aggree, only that women entering the workforce en masse was an artificial phenomenon, caused by the increased demand of workforce due to the industrial revolution and made possible by the invention of the birth control pill. | /r/MensRights | 08/06/22 05:01 PM |
| 1 | What were you told about attracting the opposite sex as you were growing up?I haven't been told much, what i have been told by my mother (mind you) was around personality and higene, clean and cut fingernails, white teeths, healthy body weight and such. Nothing wrong with that... Everything else came from pop culture, peers and what girls told me. So i think the issue isn't just that kids are being explicitly told things that are inappropriate. It's also what we pick up along the way while growing up. If you feed Disney fairy tales to your child, it's pretty much guaran… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 04:54 PM |
| 2 | Is it really that common for men to have bad hygiene that many girls here have to mention it as a disqualifier?Nah, it's mostly BS, coming from personal anecdotes. I have seen men with terrible higene and i have dated women with same issues. I had a young, female tenant giving zero shit about herself, she stank from miles and she smoked in her bedroom which always looked like a hand grenade exploded there, and she moved out leaving me in debt. I had a guy tenant doing the exact same thing, except he always paid on time... Men and women are pretty much the same in this regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 04:24 PM |
| 0 | feminism his money is their money, her money is hers alone.A retaliation in his case would mean that he stops paying for not necessary items as wall as expecting her to to start paying a proportion of their bills. He does not do that, he still pays for bills and food. Saying that "since you now have money, you can afford to pay for things you want but not need so i can pay off my debts quicker and get our family debt free sooner" is not retaliation, it is a reasonable reaction to the changed circumstances. It is also her benefit if he is debt free, beca… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 02:35 PM |
| 1 | UK: American feminist author releases book which imagines a world rid of all people with Y chromosomes. Twitter users branding her 'bigoted' and 'horrible' OP: More male hate.Oh wow. This actually is a good tought experiment. What would happen if all men suddenly disappeared? There would virtually be no one to operate the power grids, the sewage and drinking water systems, plantations, animal farms, mining, building, repair and maintenance, the market would crash, petrol would run out in weeks, the streets would be full of trash and the toilets with poop... I guess the world will be finally full of gender studies majors.. Just the perfect people to survive the litera… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 12:37 AM |
| 8 | Rethinking the Incel PhenomenonDude, the world was a very different place 20 years ago. Social media, online dating, instant validation and effortlessly achieved, virtually unlimited, free attention is a game changer. A guy who is in his twenties today has a ridiculously different experience with dating then a guy in his twenties, twenty years ago. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/22 12:23 AM |
| 6 | AOC called out for divisive comments about patriarchy and masculinity after TX school shootingI am sick and tired listening to this BS. Patriarchy, toxic masculinity, male entitlement and alike ideas are nothing but snake oils poisoning the well. Using these ideas makes it impossible to have meaningful conversations that we must have in order to solve the very real and relatively new social problems like school shootings. But instead of those conversations these brainless idiots misidentify and reduce the othervise always complex and multi faceted reasons into one single boogieman "the p… | /r/MensRights | 28/05/22 04:22 PM |
| 2 | Some women, even on this sub, play mental games with us.I also had my own issues with them. It seems fair on the surface that only feminists can comment in top level comments and it is understandable to a certain degree. The only problem with this though is that no one can give you a straight answer to the question: "what/who is a feminist?". So the fact is that a feminist - in the case of askfeminists - is whoever deemed to be a feminist by the mods. Whatever the current talking points of feminism today are, if you voice your disaggreement with any … | /r/MensRights | 23/05/22 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't giving their "sexual best" to their girlfriends and wives eitherLook, it's not that you are talking about a non existent problem. There are a bunch of guys out there who have unrealistic sexual expectations towards and fantasies about women due to excessive porn consumption. What i am saying is that the problem you describe is not similar to what's described in "women not giving their sexual best". These are two entirely different phenomena. You are essentially comparing apples to oranges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't giving their "sexual best" to their girlfriends and wives eitherThere is only one problem with your argument. You are talking about "men's sexual best" but when it comes to the explanation, you are talking about your own (by that i mean women) fantasies. The two seldom has anything to do with each other. If you want to strap on a D and bang the dude in the bum, it is not his sexual best to allow it if otherwise i he's turned off by the act. It is you, living out your fantasies on the dude. Not allowing the act therefore doesn't mean that he's not giving you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?Of course i did. You said you don't beleive the numbers are right. 🤷♂️ What am i supposed to do with what you beleive (or don't believe in this case)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?Sorry i can't do much with what people beleive. It's irrelevant. People beleive a bunch of things... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?Perhaps it's not an avarage? 50-60 is the percentage estimate of the 81 (or 77) percent of the 71.2% of the 100% where 100% is all married mothers (with children under 18), out of which 71.2% is working or looking for work, out of which 81 (or 77)% is working full time. 50-60% is the estimate of those mothers who are employed full time out of all mothers. We don't know the exact numbers because the 71.2% contains women who are looking for work. Have you taken away anything else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?As of 2021 (US): 71.2% of mothers with children, aged under 18 are employed or looking for work at all, out of which, 81.2% works full time with children over 6, 77.2 with children under 6 works full time. This means, roughly about 50-60% of all mothers work full time. 92.3% of fathers (with children under 18) participate in the labor force out of which 95% is working full time. So about 85-90% of all fathers work full time. 50-60% of mothers, vs 85-90% of dads. With at least one child under 14:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?Sure, and when these couples have kids, men tend not only to keep their full time positions but also work more hours to make more money, while women tend to chose or go back and forth between keep working full time, work part time or stay at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?I don't think that's correct. Consider that a lot of people are opposed to restrictions on abortion. If I asked people what they thought could/should be done to stop Roe v Wade being overturned, that doesn't imply Roe v Wade being overturned is a "real/objective" problem. In the subjective perceptions of people who are pro-choice it's a problem. In the subjective perceptions of people who aren't, it isn't. Well, that's why i said that the important question is what do you mean by "this" in your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 05:44 PM |
| 3 | Curious - how do RP/etc theories perceive lgbt relationships?I genuinely appreciate and applaud your attitude. I wanted to understand more why or how men end up so lonely or resentful I think the answer to this question is very complicated and multi faceted (as most social issues). RP is but one particular approach, according to which men are told to behave a certain way when it comes to relationships with women. It does work out for some, but the claim is that it doesn't for the majority. The core claim is thay what women say they want and what they trul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 04:49 PM |
| 5 | Curious - how do RP/etc theories perceive lgbt relationships?[...] lot of people here talk in generalisations and absolutes as if they are solid facts. A generalization always allows for exception. And yes, there are many men who are hyperbolic about RP conclusions as means to justify their hatred or nihilism. That doesn't mean it's men in general, much less that it's most. Also it doesn't mean that those RP findings/conclusions are invalid or have no use case.. Anything can be taken to the extreme and extremists are usually the loudest in any group. It b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?How is me pointing out that I didn't say it needed to change dodging the question? You were asking what could/should we do to change "this". This implies that there is an objective problem that needs changing. Of course, the question is, what do you mean by "this". No. I am observing that some people claim there is a problem. You are observing that there is a general problem according to the subjective perception of "people". Then you ask the question what could/should be done to change "this". … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 04:06 PM |
| 4 | Curious - how do RP/etc theories perceive lgbt relationships?Sure, it's about opposites. Feminimity and masculinity is also opposite (while complimentary) though. If both parties are roughly equally masculine and feminine, RP theories are void. If they are not, most RP theories should apply to the relationship and the parties within to some extent. It's more like a prediction then empirical knowledge though.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 03:48 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?You were asked "why does it need to change" and you dodged the question by saying "people think it needs to change". I merely pointed out, what people think is often irrelevant. You are suggesting that, according to the subjective perception of "people", there is a general problem, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there is an objective problem that is generally applicable to the relationship dynamics between genders. Before anyone can/should change anything, one must substanciate the claim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 03:40 PM |
| 9 | Curious - how do RP/etc theories perceive lgbt relationships?Most talks in RP circles discusses the dynamics between men and women, both in terms of biological sex and gender. I think if you change men to "the more masculine party" and women to "the more feminine party", most conclusions will still be applicable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 03:33 PM |
| 6 | The Johnny Depp and Amber Herd Mega-Thread (Again)But you asked the question... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?A lot of people think that the Earth is flat. Even more beleive that there's a dude, sitting on a cloud, watching and judging when you masturbate. People often believe/think according to what they are told regardless of whether it's objectively true or not. Saying "people believe/think "X" is saying nothing of substance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 03:18 PM |
| 3 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?😂 Yeah, sure. Meanwhile men also work their ass off to provide for their family. It all depends on your sampling... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?Unequal share of chores is not a general problem. It does exist in some households, but in the majority of the cases, it is due to the fact that men spend more time at work and commute more, especially when men are married with young children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 02:45 PM |
| 7 | Why do you think housework still tends to be shared so unequally?"Women still doing most housework despite earning more" Let me point out two serious flaws in the above sentence.. "Women earning more"... More then what exactly? More then before, not more then men. Correct? On avarage, married women with children still earn significantly less then men in the same category. This should obviously follow from the fact that married men with children spend significantly more time at work (and with commute) then women in the same category, in all OECD countries, wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 02:08 PM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Well, in all honesty though, women are far more complicated (or complex rather) then men in my experience so i can understand that introspection is not an easy task.. Thing is though, with that we arrive to the conclusion that men need to be the rock. So one of the reasons as to why women flock to stoic men is because perhaps, somewhere deep inside, they know that they need that "energy" in their life.. That rock, the dude who can keep his cool and hold his frame, his boundaries and who will be … | /r/MensRights | 19/05/22 05:00 PM |
| 2 | The Red Pill does not take into account genetics and the environment you grew up in, but these are the most important and limiting factors to the results you will see from self-improvementI assume you approach TRP from the self help/dating advice angle... Can you tell me what use there is to focusing on stuff you can not change instead of stuff you can? I mean sure, one can say, "yeah i am short, women will never look at my way".. Guess what, they won't, but not because you're short. The logical thread of this taught process arrives to nihilism. Besides, there's a lot of talk in RP circles about the limitations you mention, only, people say you should not feel limited by any of i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 12:27 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?If you had to summarize, what do you see as the main things they're pushing/wishing to change about men? I'd summerize it like this: as you put it earlier women want the "bad guy" when they are young and they want the "nice guy" when they are older. What they are pushing for IMO is to transform men to be both in the same time. When they are young, they aim to "domesticate" the "bad guy" and when they are old they try to "villainize" the "nice guy". The former is overt and it's part of policies a… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/22 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I aggree. I don’t see feminism changing its mind and rallying for anything that would limit women’s sexual freedom any time soon. I don't see that either unfortunately, they are going to keep pushing for changing men so i think the situation - in regards of relationships - will get worse. More divorce, less marriage, more kids in single parent households, fertility rates falling further and so on.. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/22 07:16 AM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?So a better answer imo would be that they need to reward husbands with those qualities they supposedly want with more and better sex than the bad boys they dated in their "finding themselves" years. Yeah that's what i meant when i said men should be appreciated the way they want to be appreciated. For a lot of guys it means sex, true, but besides it also means respect and peace, or someone to actually give a shit about how their day was.. Sex can be bought, genuine interest or desire can not. Ha… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/22 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?So, if you're looking for a way things could change that are still within the realm of being possible, there is a way, but it's a bit different than what you seem to be looking for. I am not necessarily looking for changing anything tbh. All i am saying is (paraphrasing dr. Warren Farrell here) that if women would start to select for men who are best at walking on their hands, soon you'd see a bunch of guys jumping around on one hand. So if women want to change men in any way, they must change t… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your response. I aggree with all you say though my question was about if women start genuinely desire more nurturing men. I asked, because i think one of the main flaws in the current zeitgeist is that men are blamed for the way they are, but how could we behave differently if women generally do not select for or reward (the way we want to be rewarded) those traits? I could challenge the idea "men can not change" or that the way men are is "hardwired", but i think the key for enabling… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 04:18 PM |
| 1 | Can someone please explain what "Toxic Masculinity" is?Initially the term had little to do with how men behaved, it was much more about the frigid social roles, stereotypes and expectations towards men. Some of these expectations in some contexts had harmful effects on some men. The typical example would be the classic "men don't cry"... Since then the focus have shifted from men to how men raised with these potentially harmful expectations affect society. Today it's more like a slur in colloquial use. Virtually everything that men do and is unsatis… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your input. Just out of curiosity. What would you think happened if women started to select for, started genuinely respecting and perhaps even get aroused by more nurturing, more emotional men? | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 05:50 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Perhaps, but those people are the vast majority. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Sure, once the biological differences between the sexes became largely irrelevant due to domestication and technology. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I have the impression that we may not mean the same thing under hypergamy. Else i do not see how what you said is relevant. Can you define the term? I mean i don't see how pushing women to be independent (of men) would serve their hypergamous interest, when essentially the problem is that they become the men they want to be with and they can not keep a man of value if they are unwilling to satisfy his needs as it's seen as subordination. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?One good way to get friendzoned 😂 | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I am not sure if they are smarter per se. It is definitely true however that they have the upper hand. Society has far more empathy towards women's issues and honestly, there are a lot of men who'd gladly put up with any BS just to get along with women and have a shot for a relationship. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Or if they are smart/brave enough to realize that the reason they can't keep the man they want is because they are acting, based on an ideology that doesn't serve their needs. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Sure, but aren't feminists the ones denying the existence of hypergamy? If we assert that hypergamy is true and is applicable to women to various degrees feminism is doing a disservice to women by saying you'll achieve happiness and fulfillment if you become "strong and independent". For a hypergamous woman, the best course of action would be to find a suitable man who satisfy her hypergamous needs and make sure that she will keep him by her side by satisfying his needs. Feminism on the other ha… | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Perhaps some of them do while others don't. The problem is that you don't often see those who disagree, because they do not speak up or they silenced/ridiculed if they do. The majority of people are usually silent while the loudest are usually the extremists. We just simply do not know the opinion of those do not speak. | /r/MensRights | 17/05/22 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?This is true, men have indeed been deplatformed, which is due to the fact that there weren't enough men who spoke up and there weren't enough men, nor women to support them. The public outrage upon silencing people is what's lacking. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Nor should you. As long as you get the results you want from your actions, based on your subjective experience, your views are reinforced on your personal level. When it comes to large groups (societies) however, subjective experience becomes insufficient. You can't introduce policies based on subjective experience but this is exactly what we are doing, this is how we end up in a ginocentric society, which is biased against men. By listening only to what a subset of women say and acting, based o… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?There's a lot of overlap between the two and no one really knows the extent of the causal relationship. We are free to act but we are also limited by biology which is countered by technology. Pushing the boundaries is not a bad thing but pushing too hard may be contraproductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?As i said, i like to think that i am aware, but sure DM me over that list. One of the common mistakes i see in feminist circles though is conflating the political with the personal depending on which view serves one's immediate interest best. The relevance of this in our conversation is that pilitical/systemic issues (like court bias) not necessarily indicate or can not always be used to prove widespread issues on the personal/individual level. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?They don't like careers especially when it doesn't look likely or when they're actually facing the real prospects of losing everything which men have to face. Women do not like to lose or risk losing it all like men have to... that's their problem with careers. Well of course, but this is not what they are sold. They are being told about the good things of chasing career and independence but they are never told the risks the sacrifice and the downside of that lifestyle and the fact that for men … | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I don't disagree with this, again, i just can't say wether this is a general issue or is it applicable to those who swallow radfem ideology. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Well, you said women didn't speak up (talking about women's general lack of concern), i said nor did men, hence it's on all of us. Some men did speak up, and perhaps indeed more then women, but it's not only women who lack empathy towards men. It's also other men, society as a whole. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I am 35. I lived my life around the globe and met with a lot of people from different cultures. Yet, i believe that my experience is vastly limited and my opinions are likely subject to bias. Anecdotal experience is not considered hardcore proof for a reason, being that all our experience is subject to interpretation. I am not trying to invalidate your experiences, nor do i say that your beliefs based on those experiences are false. What i am saying that your experiences - as are mine - are subj… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I aggree. This is why i say what i say, because i do talk a lot with women. But also, i care about studies and statistics. The women you describe appears to me to be a (very loud and influential) subgroup of women, not women in general. I can't talk with enough women though so i can't say much about the size of the group, so i don't exclude the possibility that you may be right. I am simply reluctant to generalize on this matter as long as i see a few proper studies without sample bias. We can s… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Court decisions are good source of information if the goal is to establish general rules about the court system, but the information is about a piece of a picture, not about the picture as a whole. To establish general "rules" about women you simply need more data. Court decisions are covering a very specific minority group: couples who wanted to divorce but could not settle out of court, hence the information is very limited. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Hypergamy has nothing to do with care for others it is a natural instinct to meet with males who have the resources you need to exploit. That's exactly what i am saying. It has nothing to do with caring for those who fulfill those hypergamous urges or caring of the offsprings. I'm not saying there isn't some maternal Bond but it's clearly not strong enough to treat young boys as human beings and not raise them to be a SIMP that is a supplicant to female needs and today endless wants. It is not, … | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?A woman trying to provide for a man's needs today is oppression in women's opinion Yeah its being seen as subordination. The question is, do women genuinely feel that way or they are being told to feel that way. I think it's the latter, and i think it's due to the ideology of postmodern, radical/intersectional feminism, based on deconstructionism acting contradictory to both sexes natural urges. What we tell women today (basically that they will find fulfillment if they walk the path of men) is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Most men want to provide protect and provision their women and children. No doubt. Also i beleive most women are happy to care for her offspring, if not for the radfem BS, even for her husband. The assumption is that more and more women are now seeing the position of "home maker" as subordinate and powerless and this prevents them to find happiness in that role, however, this fear/resentment is artificial and misguided. They are told that happiness will be found in independence, in chasing caree… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?That's a valid question. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?What percentage of women aggreed with how the movement turned out to be and what percentage opposed it? What about men? Did men spoke up or protested in masses? I think it's on all of us. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?How many women reject the decisions of a court to exploit a father and alienate him? We simply do not know, is what i am saying. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 01:51 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Well sure, if she pressures you to get the contractual side of things done ASAP, that's a massive red flag. It is likely that she will try and walk away with half your shit. If she pressures for a wedding, that can be for all sorts of reasons many of which may be genuine. But again we do not have data, only anecdotes. We do not actually know what is in the mind of women who want to marry, hence any generalization is unfunded. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Well it's not really the actions that keeps me from generalizing (i of course have anecdotal evidence but that's also insufficient), it's rather the lack of data. I'm saying, court decisions are enough to suggest systemic problems, but not enough to make generalizations. I beleive it's the same mistake as when a radfem says: men commit the vast majority of violent crimes, and that supposed to prove something about men in general, while the fact of the matter is that only a fraction of 1% of all … | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?You can't care for others if you do not care for yourself or you do not find someone to care for you. Hypergamy and genuine care for your offspring (or others) is not mutually exclusive IMO. I think hypergamy is (or it was for thousands of years) pre requisite of caring for others. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?We do try indeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 01:06 PM |
| 1 | If a man is "emotionally unavailable", he is like that for a reasonYeah I do think that women are better at "game". I don't think that they are generally in control of their emotions though. They are not pressured to and if they emote, they get validation trough compassion. They are however more conscious of their emotions and they are more capable of using those emotions to manipulate others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?I aggree. The best you get when you point out that they should take accountability is that they accuse you of victim blaming, gaslighting, mensplaining or blameshifting.. This however is also applicable to immature men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?It is for some (most) men, while others beat the living crap out of their immediate family members or just simply don't give a shit. I don't think that there's a vast difference in this regards between the sexes. Men and women are roughly equally good and flawed IMO. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I don't think that hypergamy prevents women from loving a man. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Again, some women do, some do not. The court stats are indicative of bias against men indeed, but those stats are only a fraction of the whole picture. It pisses me off when radfems use numbers incorrectly or study conclusions out of context to prove that there's something generally wrong with men. I'd like to avoid doing the same mistake in regards of women. There are predatorial women out there who exploit naive men and the current system allows this behavior, some communities are even support… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I tought we are talking about the caregiving stuff. | /r/MensRights | 16/05/22 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?User name checks out 😂 I think it's time for me to get the controller out too. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Well it was a waste of time to write it then 😂 What do you aggree with though? Because my point is that there's a difference between how something SHOULD be and how something IS. Most men can not afford to live in the world of SHOULD, COULD, WOULD.. Most men has to live in the world of what IS or else we are in for a rude awakening. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I did never disagree with that. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?The moment you said "boys" don't cry, was when I had a problem. I didn't actually say that. I answered to a comment. Further, i understood "boys don't cry" as a placeholder for a social phenomena and not as a stand-alone sentence. Why not girls? I mean still would have been wrong but you know.to defend himself? Girls crying is not preceived as weakness, women in general are free to express their emotions however they want to and face far less repercussions and far more sympathy. Boy's crying (in… | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 05:21 PM |
| 1 | If a man is "emotionally unavailable", he is like that for a reasonNot feeling and not showing (right away) is not the same though. Be in control of your emotions or communicating them differently/selectively is not being unemotional or blunt. Generally speaking, men live trough their emotions with action, women do with talk. Both are equally valid, but "talk" is being preceived as the correct way of expression. Besides men talk too, but usually they do it with other men, not women, especially not with their spouse. Shaming men to be "open" with their spouse/gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?I think i am aware. In fact that's one of my core arguments when debating. The discrimination against men is more institutional while discrimination against women is more individual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?what some people tell you in anger will Amaze you and it is likely more true than anything else they say. Well, yes, when you disengage the frontal lobe is when people are truly themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?First off women are not natural caregivers No, i don't think they are, not more or less then men. They are natural nurturers which i think is confused with being caregivers. Also women tend to find pleasure in people rather then in things, so this might also contribute to the perpetuation of the misconception. hell it's clear that women will even use their own children as little bags of money. Women will also Gaslight their sons to be a simp and they encourage their daughters to be parasitic in … | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 02:11 PM |
| 2 | Is it patriarchy that expects men to be strong/dominant or is it women?Well, not necessarily. The automod is set to filter for keywords and i used the word "patriarchy" which probably triggered the automod. I didn't bother contacting the mods so it's on me too. I have found PPD to be fairly liberal in what topics are allowed, but they do have to keep the radicals at bay if they do not want to have issues with the reddit mods. In general, yes, sure, the attack on free speech is very illustrative as to what's going on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?I'd just like to add one thing though. My posts are not always mirroring exactly what i think, i am more curious about what others think. And i do play the devils advocate sometimes. I think in order to get a full picture, you need opinions from all sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 01:38 PM |
| 1 | If a man is "emotionally unavailable", he is like that for a reasonWell that was exactly what i meant to point out. That men are shamed for not showing emotions the same way women do, and that we do not have to change that, but understand it rather. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 01:34 PM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?No disaggreement there. The biggest issue is that women have been granted the freedom to pick and choose between roles, while men did not. The fact of the matter is that what allows women to have this choice is exactly that men are not allowed to have the same choices, or else, society would crumble. As more and more men refuses to participate in this bad deal, society is indeed weakening. The irony of it all is that there are no human rights in a disfunctional society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Is "my body, my choice" = "my money, my choice"?Yeah, it was also removed by the automod. As i recall, i asked the mods for a review but i was told that this question doesn't fit into the topics of PPD. 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Is it patriarchy that expects men to be strong/dominant or is it women?That's cause i hit the "shitpost" filters and the post never went online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Well then go ahead and ask them if they support men having a legal choice to be a parent as a commensurate choice to women's 3 legally-protected choices they have now which is abortion, adoption and legal abandonment. They do not (mind you, there's clearly a sample bias there). But i think that it's more like about focusing on women's rights and caring little about the consequences. While what you imply appears to be true, i do not see this rooted in the idea "women are better caregivers". | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?That's fair enough, but stoicism is not about repressing emotions. Being able to keep a cool head in a stressful situation or not repeating "i love you" in every hour so it preserves it's meaning is not the same as bottling up your emotions. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Sure, just leave the bones to the dogs please. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I am not entirely sure if that's women, who perpetuates the idea, it seems to me that it is more like an urban legend kind of thing, held by both sexes. I lurk on feminist subs and sometimes argue with them. I found that they are indeed against all sex related stereotypes, including the one above. Of course i do not know how all women think and feminists do not represent all women, but that's the picture I've got so far. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I guessed so. But no, it's not complete apathy, in fact it has nothing to do with apathy. It's about controlling your emotions, not numbing yourself. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thank you. I asked him for a reason though. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 11:47 AM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?And to address the falling birth rates. | /r/MensRights | 15/05/22 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Do you think this mentality can only come from adults telling this to you? What mentality do you think i have BTW? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Or perhaps what you think is not applicable to everyone. Is that so unbelievable? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Wait, so i remember being told "it will go away by the time you'll be a soldier" from year 4 onwards, but i don't remember being told "men don't cry"? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Obviously I do bud... I just never heard anyone telling me this. "Men don't cry" i mean. When i got hurt or something, i was told "it will go away by the time i will be a soldier". Perhaps because i didn't cry much to begin with? If someone tried to hurt me i usually beat the crap out of them.. But i also don't remember anyone ever telling this to boys who did cry more. They "just" usually got picked on by the bullies. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?35, yes. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Lack of masculine men will lead to a society that will need thise man again. I tend to agree with this assumption. We will see though. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for sharing. May i ask where are you from? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?All men hear our fathers, grandfathers, uncles even teachers (males and females) say "men dont cry"[...] Interesting, I never heard anyone saying anything like that. Perhaps we are from different cultures. Why do you think that is though? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?What is stoicism though? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your response. Can i ask what is your take on why men do not feel comfortable sharing their "inner worlds"? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?You know, it's interesting, because women are more likely to be diagnosed with depression and anxiety, despite the perception that part of masculinity is allegedly "bottling up" emotions. This may also be due to the fact that men are less likely to see a therapist.. Also, a society at peace and ritch in easily available resources doesn't need masculine men, a society in lack of those does... And yet, women apparently have a strong preference for masculine men. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Sure Depends on why, where, when he cries and in what context. If a dude breaks down in tears because his team came out second, or because his colleague said something bad about him and on top of that, it all happens in public, i think that's weird. If a dude cries because his beloved grandma died, i feel compassion, i think it would be weird if he didn't cry. It also depends on the extent of crying of course, there's a complete spectrum between dropping a tear and being full on hysterical. It's… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your take. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Interesting take. I think i aggree. Essentially, once a man is in love, that man is vulnerable for exploitation or manipulation as we'd do literally anything for those we are truly in love with. Women seem to have a bit more resilience on this field indeed. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for sharing. I hope you did find some people you can trust. Those people are out there. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your response. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍 | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your response. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I agree with you that what you describe is an existing problem, i have no doubt that it is. Where i disaggree with the radical/intersectional feminist standpoint (and perhaps with you) is first: the cause, second: to what extent the problem is prevalent within society. The mainstream reasoning in regards of the cause is that the problem exists due to patriarchy and that it affects men in general (meaning more men are affected then not). My problem is that these are assumptions that are insuffici… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 06:57 PM |
| 2 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?What do you mean by saying men are the emotionally weak gender? Can you elaborate? | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your response. Have you ever been told why you must "men up"? What was the justification for treating as you have been treated? (If you don't mimd me asking) | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 05:27 PM |
| -1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?I aggree and disaggree with this advice in the same time. If all you have been told is "boys don't cry", it's a pretty useless, even harmful advice. On the other hand, when it comes to adolescent boys, you better learn to defend yourself and fight back, even if you have no chance to win. Crying won't help. If anything, it will put a target on your back. You do not cry when bullies can see you. You cry when you are alone or surrounded only by people you trust. So i aggree that there are situation… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 05:04 PM |
| 4 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?This seems to be a fairly common experience. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 04:18 PM |
| 11 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Interesting thing about this is when you debate feminists, some of them are so eager to point out all the bad shit that some men is doing to women, and i aggree with them wholeheartedly, there are dangerous and predatorial men out there. But right when i say, "but men are getting fucked over by women too, so perhaps being predatorial has nothing to do with gender", is when the gaslighting starts. Then i ask, "didn't you guys tell men to open up? That's exactly what i am doing, i feel bad for tho… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 04:17 PM |
| 5 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your response. Much appreciated. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 04:07 PM |
| 4 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Well i think the best would be to ask them directly. I tried but i wasn't much successful. I think they expect men not to want to dominate women, but the thing is, women often choose or wish to be able to chose men who are more capable then themselves, then try to dominate him just to resent him if they are successful. If you say this to them, their comeback usually is, "it's because of..." you guessed it "... patriarchy." I think most men do not wish to dominate anyone, especially their wife or… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 04:03 PM |
| -1 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Yeah i do think that it's OK too. There's is a common misconception about stoicism (which i don't claim you hold), namely that stoicism is about not showing emotions at all in order to appear strong. But it's not about that of course. So yeah, sure there's nothing wrong with expressing emotions and vulnerability, the caveat is that there's a time, a place and a special person for that. I think this caveat is being mispreceived as men "bottling up" their emotions by those with whom men do not sha… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 03:52 PM |
| 9 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks. I think, teaching stoicism to young men would be far more useful then teaching them that it's ok to be vulnerable. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 03:18 PM |
| 7 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks, i appreciate your response. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 03:05 PM |
| 14 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks. It's possible that male forms of expression are seen as less valid than female forms of expression and that's why people think men don't express themselves. If they don't do it the way women do, it becomes invisible. Yeah, i think it's not only possible, but that's exactly what's happening at large. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 03:00 PM |
| 4 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?The most i hear this idea from are radical/intersectional feminists of course. They claim that patriarchy expects men to be strong and dominant. The consequence of this expectation allegedly is that men have to repress their emotions. Can't cry for instance, can't be vulnerable, can't show or express love verbally... And their claim is that the reason why so many men are in trouble (ie.: substance abuse, suicide and so on..) is because we have to "bottle up" our emotions, or we do not ask for he… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 02:59 PM |
| 15 | Are men really pressured to repress emotions in order to appear strong?Thanks for your response. Just to clarify, i think the whole notion described in the first paragraph is bogus, it's unfunded and whoever perpetuates such claims is extremely ignorant about how men process and express emotions. I think that the above is also applicable to the idea that men must be strong and dominant because of patriarchy. I think that it's not patriarchy that expects us to be like that, it's women, specifically our partners. At least, that's my experience, so i am curious to see… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 02:51 PM |
| 12 | Netherlands spends public funds to catcall men and boys on the streethttps://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/cbs-two-thirds-young-women-have-experienced-sexual-harassment-netherlands Figures released by Statistics Netherlands (CBS) reveal that 67 percent of women aged 12 to 25 have experienced sexual harassment or intimidation when out and about in the Netherlands. Unwanted whistling is the most common form of sexual harassment, with around 50 percent of young women reporting this happened at least once between February 2020 and April 2021. Around 40 … | /r/MensRights | 14/05/22 12:30 PM |
| 1 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?Fair enough. All the best. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/22 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?Okay, I’ll explain the data. With all do respect, i didn't ask you to explain the data. As i am not illiterate, nor obtuse, i know what the data shows and i am not even questioning the accuracy of it. I asked you, what are you telling me with the data. Ie.: What is your interpretation? And i asked you what is the conclusion you are deriving from the data. I didn't want to accuse you of thinking "men are the problem" without knowing your views on the issue. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/22 12:25 AM |
| 3 | Some feminism observations :Not to defend radical feminism but literally any ideology can be turned inside out and be used to justify being cruel to people by those getting themselves off on being cruel to others. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 08:42 PM |
| 9 | Female And Non-Binary Uber Drivers Will Now Be Able To Refuse Rides From Male Passengers In AustraliaI think, there's a slight chance that you might have missed the point by about a lightyear... | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Female And Non-Binary Uber Drivers Will Now Be Able To Refuse Rides From Male Passengers In AustraliaGo woke, go broke is all. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 08:21 PM |
| 10 | Kinnear Woman Sentenced For False Statement Of Sexual Assault"Smith was sentenced to time-served with two years of supervised release and a $100 special assessment fee." Wow.. I think $100 is a bit excessive.. She just alleged an officer of raping her. It's like saying: "Bertie stole my eraser" in primary school.. I wonder what would have happened if the officer wouldn't have been equipped with a body camera though.. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?I asked you a clarifying question. If you can't answer it's fine, but why be a dick about it? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 07:25 PM |
| 3 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?This is what you said: We have a set expectation how men and women SHOULD act, i think we have to abolish that. This is vague and generalized. Perhaps it would have been better on my part to ask you to elaborate. I said to abolish the socialization where men and women have to be a certain way (mucho or weak etc) Fine. How is this going to tackle violence (which is what we are talking about)? Secondly, i never once talked about men in generall, i talked about violent men, so i’m also talking abou… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 04:55 PM |
| 4 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?What are you telling me with the data? What is your conclusion? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 02:51 PM |
| 4 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?I assume we are still talking about violence... Well sure, this is an appealing assumption for some reason (especially in radical/intersectional feminist circles) but when you start looking at the context of the crude statistics, the picture you get is far more nuanced. In 2016, there were 700.000 men incarcerated for all sorts of violent crimes in the US, this is less then 1% of the total, 18+ male population. So the question is, is 1% enough to make a wide generalization? When you look into th… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 02:31 PM |
| 6 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?So in your opinion, the problem is in how we socialize men in general? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 07:36 AM |
| 5 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?What kind of men though? Avarage dudes? Your plumber? Less then 1% of the 18+ US male population was incarcerated for all sorts of violent crimes in 2016, just saying. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 07:18 AM |
| 6 | Women more likely to face violence, But more men are victims of it?If "violent men" are the problem, what is the solution? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/22 07:14 AM |
| 1 | High earners of PPD.I think household chores should be split, based upon two individuals who reach mutual aggreement following a discussion that happened early in their relationship. 50/50, 30/70, 100/0 can all work, as long as it's consensual and not forced in any way. It doesn't matter where the money is coming from, even if it's passive income, it doesn't just come out of the blue, if it was easy, people there wouldn't be so rare. What matters is what i want and that i should look for a partner who can and happy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 05:19 PM |
| 3 | Not only are women biologically less horny than men, but they are significantly less interested in meeting men even for genuine connections and relationships, regardless of how attractive he isObviously you've never been with a normal woman who desired you, because if you were, you'd know how obviously wrong your first sentence is. The difference is that women usually want a lot of sex with one man who they are into, while men usually want a lot of sex, full stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/22 08:41 AM |
| 2 | Q4Bluepill: In your opinion why do you think more Women iniate divorce than men?In addition, stay-at-home fathers do more male-typed work, like home repair, as opposed to cooking, cleaning, or taking care of children. So they are not very helpful. Male-typed work is not very helpful you see. This explains everything. Also For one, men who request family leave are often judged by their coworkers as weaker and less assertive, competent, and ambitious. This may have been true about 50 years ago, but not today, not in western countries. I work for a manufacturing company which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Women say most men are “awful,” toxic or undateable, or that “the bar is so low” which is such a joke. Most men worship the ground women walk on, even attractive ones, and women are ridiculously selective.They are tough. A woman who is really into you will fall head over heels to ride you, you can't even scratch her off with a shovel. They are horny AF if they desire you but they appear to be frigid to everyone else who they are not into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Women don't age like MilkThat a girl in her early 20's is more valuable than one in their iearly 30's. No! You are confusing attractiveness with personal value. A girl in her 20-s is POTENTIALLY more sexually attractive then the same woman in her 30-s. It says nothing about how valuable she is as a person. Mother Theresa was a very valuable woman, but let's be honest she wasn't attractive. It's all about potential for both sexes and it is possible for us all not to live up to our potential. Some women do better in their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 03:05 PM |
| 4 | Men just can't win - I see this post every once in a while. See what you think of my response.Hmm. It's like, you release one egg in a month, i make sperm buy the thousands per minute. I wonder, which is easier to control... | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 06:01 AM |
| 2 | To male survivors of abusive relationships, how were you treated when you spoke outThe most fucked up thing about it is those communities will reinforce her abusive behavior as completely justified because she's naturally right by virtue of being a woman. Yes it's so easy to find validation now. The echo chamber effect on social media is very strong and very toxic. And of course, the stories people tell in these communities are often not meant to seek truth by objectively describing a situation. They provide their own narrative in order to get that validation from the members.… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 05:53 AM |
| 2 | To male survivors of abusive relationships, how were you treated when you spoke outYeah that's kinda true. It's depending on men too to be honest. There is nothing stopping us to build our own communities IRL and some do. But we are not as socially calibrated as women are, besides, it is a lot harder for a man to open up about these things, we are not encouraged to do so, so there might be a lot to upgrade on that front. This "be in touch with your emotions" BS might sound like a good idea at first and there might be some who mean good, but often it's not more then empty virtu… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 03:34 AM |
| 5 | To male survivors of abusive relationships, how were you treated when you spoke outI think most of the abuse men are putting up with is emotional. Most of us perhaps do not even think of it as "abuse" per se. That kind of abuse - the walking on eggshells, the nothing is good enough, the guilt trips, the it's always your fault- type can wear someone down and can lead to a number of physical disorders pretty quickly. Of course this can be said about women too, buy emotionally abusive men tend to be physically violent besides (women too but to a lesser extent given the physical d… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Options.Options are not necessary bad IMO. What makes it harder is that those options can not be equally distributed for obvious reasons and that many people find it challenging to distinguish between different kind of attractions (short vs long term). A pretty woman may be bombarded with attention, especially on OLD, but most of the attention - at least initially - is not about her personally which is fine as long as she doesn't really want more then short term relationships. For men it became much har… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 02:43 PM |
| 2 | Are you all from countries where women dont go to college or work and..i sold house to couples and saw their financials and arrangements. Hence you can not extrapolate your views on the general public. Your "data source" is specific. I sold garden rakes to people hence i can establish that most people have gardens. Or can i? I am being approached by people who are likely to have gardens and not being approached by people who likely do not, hence the only conclusion i can derive with relative accuracy is that people who by rakes are likely to have gardens, nothing b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 11:37 AM |
| 3 | Women are more abusive than men in relationships and don't think that they could be because of society's messaging - "Men bad, women good"What an utter nonsense this is.. Titanic is not the exception, it was the rule those days. There's only one study claiming that it was the exception, and they base their claim on the fact that women were more likely to perish on other ships without involving in an extensive research in regards of reasons as it's the case in the majority of research on this particular field (men vs. women).. just like the uncontrolled wage gap or the "research" that shows men do not do as much childcare or househ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers are right about how women have higher standards than men. However, they're wrong when they say that's because women are inherently shallow. Women aren't shallow, they have higher standards due to other reasonsHowever, I think that it's very sexist how the redpill says that women are picky because they're shallow and condescending. Hmm. There are so many flaws just in this one sentence, i don't even know where to begin. Like, dude, are you seriously judging a whole group you evidently know nothing about, based on a little number of it's members you may have interacted with? Remind me, how is that kind of thinking called when it happens to other groups, based on race, sex or religion? Also, when someon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 05:03 PM |
| 2 | What is the minimum standard for a man’s body to be attractive?Maybe it's just the poor lighting, but the dude's face looks like a psycho mixed with a playboy coming fresh out from the set of Twilight. If that type of guy ladies find attractive, no wonder why all the disappointment with "men". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 12:35 PM |
| 3 | Most women withhold sex because they are afraid they don’t offer anything elseI can totally understand why women do not/should not have sex too early.. There are plenty of guys out there for sex and willing to lie and future fake to get it, even guys with genuine intentions for an LTR can change their mind, or they simply find out that they are not for each other. On the other hand men, looking for ltr-s also appreciate low notch counts, so there is a contradiction there thats created by us (men) but is left for women to solve. As for the manipulation part.. I am pretty s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/22 12:03 PM |
| 3 | The existence of genderThe biggest issue around gender is that it is hard to find appropriately defined terms, hence it is very hard to have a meaningful conversation about the topic. Like, define, what is a woman, define what is gender identity without circular logic. The idea that all social differences between men and women are 100% socially constructed (as the idea that those differences are 100% innate) is a pseudoscientific assumption that doesn't stand against scientific enquiry (genetics for instance) and logi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 04:40 PM |
| 1 | What do you do if you are an unattractive commitment phobic man who doesn't want to visit sex workers?Go to therapy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 04:02 PM |
| 1 | What are some examples of female privilege?Depends on what do you mean by anecdote. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 08:00 AM |
| 1 | What are some examples of female privilege?No, he is saying that lawyers are advising their customers to pursue something if they see a good chance that they will be able to win and advise against if not, hence your statistics are not representative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Women have overwhelmingly been the oppressed demographic in our documented history and their expectations in any given perceived oppressed circumstance almost always guarantee that they will prioritise being oppressed and being adaptableI'm gonna call BS on this. This whole idea of singling out women as the oppressed group is nonsensical to begin with. The word "oppression" suggests that someone is being forced to do something against their will, or they are being forced to live a life they otherwise do not wish to live. The latter implies that they have alternative choices which must have been repeatedly denied. You compare the incredibly different life of a post pill and industrial revolution woman to a pre pill and industria… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/22 03:23 PM |
| 1 | How much do you think being a woman’s best lover ever matters?Man here. I'd say it's somewhere between 99 and 100%, but only if it's reciprocal. Not necessarily to be the best, but to do your best. Why? Because i do not think that you have any kind of moral ground to complain when your relationship turns to shit if you do not do what you can to satisfy your parner's needs and do not expect her/him to do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Why do some women still choose to be stay at home parents?Why not? I mean, there's a popular view that raising kids would interfere with your career, which is certainly true. On the other hand, the vast majority of people do not have careers, we have jobs. It is considered a privileged position to be doing something you love and be paid (sufficiently) for it. And it is a privileged position to be able to rank up at your workplace or to be able to purse your passion as an entrepreneur. Most people can not do any of it, so what's left to them is a choice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 04:48 PM |
| 0 | So let me get this straight….. woman assaults a man for absolutely no reason and before he even retaliates in defense, he should chill? Then cops pummel HIM…. Then they both end up getting the same fines and legal charges…. Equal rights though, right? Fucking jokeHonestly though, there's no "retaliation in self defense". Given her demeanor, probably she should be in a nice, calm, rubber padded room rather then in public but she clearly have stopped already when he went after her. If he was to knock her out at the time she decided to put her hands on him, that would have been self defense and no one should have a damn word against him. Nothing justifies her behavior but retaliation is retaliation. | /r/AntiFeminists | 13/04/22 12:29 AM |
| 14 | The idea that Will Smith is a "beta male" is ridiculous and shows how delusional the manosphere isIf you let your wife publicly humiliate you on multiple occasions, people will call you a beta, or a cuck, or a doormat, or whatever. If you laugh on a joke then realize that your wife's not happy with it, then you walk up to the stage and slap the comedian on a fucking Gala to prove yourself, people will call you a beta, or a cuck, or a doormat, or whatever.. People are hardly right on all occasions but i think they are onto something this time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/22 01:57 AM |
| 1 | What will happen when technology reaches a point where you can choose your baby’s gender?I think we can only guess. Based on the current zeitgeist, i think there would be more females then males first, which isn't so big of an issue as if it was the opposite. On the long run, i think it would even out staying close to 50/50. It's only anecdotal but most people i know who want at least two children wish to have one boy and one girl, but most i know who want only one wish to have a girl. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/22 04:12 PM |
| 7 | Isolation with traditional wants in feminist spacesIt is because a "traditional" framework is defined as oppressive and exploitative towards women, no exemption. By definition you can not want that by your own free will, you must have been conditioned to "serve" your man since you were a child and - as you said - internalized misoginy as a result. The biggest traitor to feminism (or what it has become today rather) is a happy and fulfilled, "traditional" stay at home mom with a handful of kids, who is being taken care of by an interdependent dut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/22 06:05 PM |
| 7 | How to lower standards?I am sure, that there are "Stacy chasers", but there is no scientific evidence to suggest that avarage men in general are unwilling to date avarage women or do not find them attractive, in fact all the evidence we have is to the contrary, avarage women do not find avarage men attractive, and women are far more likely to date up then men. As to the "Stacy chasers". Grow up to your standards or lower them. How to lower them? Focus on qualifiers, not on disqualifiers. Focus more on personality less… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 04:16 PM |
| 0 | As of 2019, 61.6% of men above the age of 15 are fathers.You guys and your strawmen.. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 06:00 AM |
| 0 | Regarding the post about women being “paranoid” about assault, what are things that women do in this regard that upset you?The sexist way those particular women, obsessed with their own paranoia talk about men is the problem. All women should be careful around men, because even though it's only a small minority of men who can and will do serious harm, no one can tell which one of us is like that, but there's a clear difference between being reasonably careful and borderline or flatout paranoid. One can and should be careful and one can and should advise fellow women to be careful. Most RP guys i know however are ups… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketYou're still thinking about universal units of exchange. Of course i do, since we are speaking in generalities. Individual differences are natural and general rules do not always apply to everyone especially not to the same extent, but talking about those is an entirely different conversation. Don't get lost in the analogies. The point is, you are not going to date just anyone and that's perfectly fine. You have a standard threshold and that needs to be met, as long as that threshold is in align… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 04:50 PM |
| 0 | Male entitlement is the sole reason for their widespread loneliness1: 6 and 7 is not avarage. 2: A good body with an average face is avarage. Just because she is a model, it doesn't mean she is a 9 or a 10, especially not without makeup or surgeries. Jut because a woman is rated avarage, it doesn't mean she is not attractive or that avarage men wouldn't date them. It's women who are more reluctant to date avarage btw... Every men dreams about a 10/10 body. It doesn't mean we are unable to genuinely love a 5/10 or that we feel entitled to pump and dump those 10/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 12:43 AM |
| 1 | What is the most important thing a guy can improve that can vastly improve his notch count fast?Yeah. It does, especially if you are not the type of guy women are attracted to, so what? There is no easy way out. If you're interested, here's an advise: As far as i can tell, you are in the wrong mindset. Your focus is on women, it should be on yourself. Do shit you are good at, be healthy, be fit, be funny, get a rewarding, fulfilling career and be the best at it, don't give a shit about women. If you're desperate for sex, there's no shame in paying for it, get it out of your system, it's a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | What is the most important thing a guy can improve that can vastly improve his notch count fast?Also without too much effort. There's no effective snake oil. Your success directly correlates with the efforts you put in and it's dependent on how persistent you are in everything you do. No/minimal effort = no/minimal success. Also, racking up notch counts with quality women? Quality women are for long term relationships, not pump and dump. They will also see right trough you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 04:19 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Well if that's true, hoovering is free time too. In fact, anything is free time that requires no cognition. I can see now that it's a frequent habit of yours not to answer the points/questions potentially contradicting your beliefs and only respond to my most irrelevant thoughts instead, so I'm just going to end this one sided conversation here. Good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 09:05 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Commuting isn't work, but also it doesn't allow you to be home, nor is it free time. How did you arrive to the conclusion that a woman does 60 unpaid hours pw at home tough? Using your exaggerated metrics. 60 hrs pw is about 8.5 hrs pd. So a man should do 2.8 hrs pd on avarage to be even. Say he does 1.5 hrs on a work day, that's 7.5 hrs in total on a 5 days work week. He is left with 12.5 hrs to do on weekends, which is 6.25 per weekend day. Now you need to show me some actual evidence that men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 05:08 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?I will ask you again then, hopefully this time i will get an answer. In your estimation, how many hours of household chores a man must do after an avg 10 hrs shift (from which at least 9hrs is net. work) and 1-2 hrs commute per workday on top of what he already does to be equal with his wife? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 04:18 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Even if that was true... Still, you have nothing to prove that the framework is wrong and not the people who operate it, nor can you prove that lazy people do not participate in modern egalitarian relationships, nor can you prove that men are the problem.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 02:51 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Well i can make it short, look: you are dead wrong and your anecdotal evidence will not convince anyone otherwise. Happy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 01:42 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?That the it’s... ? slightly more for women, but knowing men over inflate home work I don’t trust the information for a second. What exactly you do not trust? You do not trust the OECD data on working hours? Or the statistics about commuting times? You do not trust your reluctance to answer simple questions? "Knowing men over inflate home work".. says you based on anecdotal evidence gained on a group of your own social circle. Really? Yeah okay, you are entitled to your beliefs. I'm not buying it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?I did And what did you find? woman never got a break Do you actually believe what you say? I have lived alone for years and done all the chores necessary. I can cook, clean, do the dishes, fold the clothes all of it.. Newsflash... It doesn't take 12 hours a day, not even close, i can cook for two days do laundry and clean a two bedroom flat in 2-3 hours. Many people don't even have an idea how to cook eggs lol. I have a wife and son now, guess what, even with kids it doesn't take 12 hours if you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 01:09 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Because I’ve known people fill out the survey for that data and the men chronically overestimate what they do at home. I ask you again. Did you see the OECD data on working hours? Also, how many men you can possibly know who "overestimate" what they do at home? 1, 10, 100? Is the number justify your generalization? Also, the argument is not that women don't do more at home, it's that men do more outside of the home in jobs they solely do for the better payment and commute further. And that at th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Gender Pay GapBeauty privilege.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 04:38 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?How is exploiting your wife and only working 8 hours a day not oppressive? Why would you assume that that's the case? Did you ever look at the OECD working hours data? Why you base your opinion on the worst case scenario and why do you assume that the worst case scenario is the mean? Do you really think that the framework matters for an abusive, manipulative person? I’m not sure why you jumped to kids being raised by the state. Because when both parents work, that's what tends to happen more oft… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 04:37 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?I didn't say it doesn't exist. It does. As much as the lazy or exploitative female trope exists. It's not a "men problem" it's a "people problem". I said that there's nothing wrong with the model. It does not exist to the extent of justifying generalization or allowing the "traditional model" to be called oppressive/patriarchical. There are also millions of decent, loving men out there who are happy to work their guts out in a "traditional setting", providing to their family and they are sick of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 12:13 AM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?I don't mean to be rude, but nobody is talking about you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Gender Pay GapNah, i hold no grudge with them either, they have been fair with me too. It's coming from above them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 10:59 AM |
| -1 | Gender Pay GapGrammar nazi 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 10:57 AM |
| 4 | Gender Pay GapYeah. What's relevant is sometimes a thin line here. All feminism related topic and the criticism of those is more then relevant IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 10:53 AM |
| 13 | Gender Pay GapYeah, the problem with the gap isn't that it doesn't exist. The issue is when they try to explain why does it exist. I mean, if you compare people with blue eyes vs people with brown eyes, there will be some gap, or if you compare tall vs short people, there will be a gap. Does this mean that the tall blue eyed people oppress the brown eyed short people? It sounds ridiculous isn't it? For some reason its not so ridiculous when you compare women vs. men even though the method is exactly the same.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Sex life of a high value man?I think HVM-s have the potential to pump and dump, but rarely any of them does it after a certain age as a lifestyle. The difference between HVM and LVM is the fact that one has more options not the fact that one is fucking around while the other doesn't. HVM have the means and the need to take care of themselves. They look good, smell good, they make good money, they have good social skills and a wider social circle. They can still be "betas" though, meaning they may be willing to throw everyth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Sex life of a high value man?You only know it when you are it. Dude that's spot on. I must say, right now i am avarage, but i spent all my youth being overweight. between now and then, i had a few years when i could call my self relatively good looking with a low body fat rate and a good shoulder to hip ratio, so i can say i was almost all around the spectrum anywhere between 3 - 7/10 lookwise. The difference was stellar. When 7/10, just walking down the streets.. Random chicks smiled at me without me doing anything, and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 07:48 AM |
| 1 | Would a guy getting fame solve most of his dating problems?It depends on the guy i think. If he is not in the right headspace, no fame/money will help, he can still end up with manipulative, low quality women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 07:32 AM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Yeah, that's the old model, according to male hating feminists. It's just as valid a claim as the wage gap being there because of patriarchical oppression. In reality, all of them - children included - worked pretty much all day long troughout most of human history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 07:12 AM |
| 3 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Great! I am so glad that i am not the only one who thinks that the SAHM + bread winner model is not less egalitarian then the modern egalitarian model where both parents share 50% of everything from bills to dishes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 03:21 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Egyetértek. 🙂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 03:17 PM |
| 1 | The response to men who complain about the dating world of “maybe you should improve yourself or find out what you’re doing wrong” is simply disingenuous and yet another deflectionWe (men) who ever tried dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 03:15 PM |
| 2 | The response to men who complain about the dating world of “maybe you should improve yourself or find out what you’re doing wrong” is simply disingenuous and yet another deflectionNot like what you say isn't true, it's just useless. I mean, yes, it can be frustrating AF (if you do what you do to attract women). So what? We all know, it has been said about a thousand times. Be the best version of yourself for your own satisfaction and give zero shit about women and their unreasonable standards, at the end of the day it hurts them more then it hurts you. If you are frustrated or complaining, ask yourself why. It may be that you are still not in your own frame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 07:22 AM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?How do you reconcile advising your daughter to marry accross or up in SH but also look for egalitarian mindset? Across, fair enough but higher? I am not looking to argue, just curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 07:10 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?“If I’m nice, she’ll fuck me” “If I’m supportive, he’ll want to change” Yeah it makes sense. My initial enquiry was for clarification purposes. The justifications for abuse are a little more complicated than that. Nothing justifies abuse, as nothing justifies stealing the bike. All i am saying is that - in the vast majority of the times - you have the opportunity to mitigate the risks. If you keep thinking of yourself as a victim, you lose agency, as victims, by definition have none. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?As more and more countries lift restrictions it turns out, those people were right all along. Some people just don't like to do shit that doesn't make sense. Just saying.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 03:24 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?That's beside the point, i am not arguing against what you say. Assault will happen, burglaries will happen, abuse will happen. You can not eradicate these things entirely, but you can teach your children what to do and how to behave in certain situations to have the best chance to avoid crap like that happening to them. I don't think it is evil thing to tell your young one to put a "D" lock on their bike if they must store in public. It doesn't mean i would justify stealing their bike if they w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 12:48 AM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Ah, so both the abused and the abuser, the cheater and the cheated, the thief and the victim, the exploited and the exploiter — are equally culpable? Mutual distrust, defensiveness and suspicion are the way to go? Nah, that's not exactly what i mean. If a burglar must choose which house is to be burglarized, will he choose the house wit the door shut and barred or will he choose the one with the doors wide open? I understand that it may be triggering to say that a victim of a non reciprocally ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 12:32 AM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?I at large aggree with what you said, I'd just have one thing to add to this: (Holy shit I am going to scare the crap out of my daughter, so I'm not sure how I would go about this.) I think you have nothing to worry about this. The current pop culture (the woke side in particular) does a fairly good job frightening women IMO. And a slight disaggreement here: (women too but idrc they aren't as exploitive usually). I think - in general - men are more idealistic and romantic, also, yes more predato… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 12:14 AM |
| 3 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Thanks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 09:34 PM |
| 0 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?If your son tells you "Dad, i am such a good guy, i respect the shit out of this chick, I've done everything right, gave her all she needed.. I don't understand why she stepped out on me...", what would your response be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 09:27 PM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 09:25 PM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Thanks. It's seems like something worth reading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 09:19 PM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?What's the book about? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 09:17 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?The actions you take and the emotions you leave ground for are in your control. If you let someone to walk all over you it is on you, as much as it is on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 09:11 PM |
| 0 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?How about your daughter? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 09:01 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?What would you teach to your son? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 08:59 PM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?I can 100% relate to everything you've said. Especially with the no victim mentality part. It is so easy to slide into that headspace and so "comfortable" to stay, but i can't imagine anything else that is more disempowering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?No, for their own actions and emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Yeah i aggree. Role models are very important, especially level headed dads. Though where these role models are lacking (about 40% of kids grow up in single parent families), kids usually are more vulnerable to this internalized fear, among all sorts of other shit of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 06:01 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?In other words, the importance of being accountable? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 05:47 PM |
| 2 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Yeah, i was curious about why you think it's more prevalent now, then it was, say a hundred years ago. I guess at the end of the day it doesn't matter much though. I think too that women should be cautious around men, but also i would avoid - at all cost - for this caution to turn into something like internalized fear of men which - as i see it - is also trending nowdays. Thing is though, with real predators (be it male or female), you can not be sure until it may be too late. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | What would you teach your children about the opposite sex?Thanks for your input. May i ask you what makes you say this: "Seeing as trends seem to keep spiraling though I feel like if I have daughters there’ll definitely have to be an extra effort in helping her learn to avoid either violent, abusive, or just generally unhinged men because shit just seems to be trending towards those type of dudes being more prevalent"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 05:19 PM |
| 2 | “Lower you standard”, is the worst possible advice a person can get, when it comes to datingNot if your standards are unreasonable. The most obvious example would be when a landwhale feels entitled to hold down a fit dude/chick. If you disagree with the advice of lowering standards, how about saying "grow up to your standards"? I mean, something has to be done about it for your own sake and sanity i beleive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Something that heterosexual men and heterosexual women may never understand about eachotherI think, all that you said is legit. I do not disaggree really just want to add that we live in an age when this otherwise understandable need to feel safe in women can easily be over exaggerated, and this may cause a lot of unnecessary tension. Imagine someone being on social media 24/7 in a bubble where she is getting bombarded with stuff like "r@pe culture", "men aint shit" and so on. So i think this legitimate cautiousness often turns into pathological fear, especially if she did have negati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 04:24 PM |
| 2 | The majority of men throughout history never reproduced? What?It's not that the majority of men weren't able to reproduce. Their bloodline died out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 05:51 AM |
| 3 | How to politely mess with the minds of feminists.You have to use the 'Who hurt you?' Lol, done that a few times. The reaction is usually instant rage quit. | /r/AntiFeminists | 31/03/22 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Women are having less sex than Men (as of 2021)Well that's not what i said though. I said male sexlessness was far more persistent in the past 20+ years then female sexlessness. Female sexlessness being more prevalent is the exception, not the rule, based on past data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/22 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Women are having less sex than Men (as of 2021)I see, so your wrong is right because i claim that my wrong is right? Your critique is well placed, and you can and should say it any time someone brings that study up. However, that study isn't part of this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/22 02:41 PM |
| 0 | Women are having less sex than Men (as of 2021)You can't take one year out of 20+ and make a conclusion, you can't even make predictions based on one year's data. Social cahenge plays out on the long term, in decades mostly... It happened before that women had less sex then men, but is/was that the rule or the exception? Look at the trend, what does it show? Besides... As others said, the definition of "having sex" is sometimes not as obvious as it seems like. Like, people say they didn't have sex, because there was no penetration.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/22 08:02 AM |
| 1 | A cheating man is worse than a cheating womanI think, if cheating is wrong it is wrong because it is a betrayal of trust, from that standpoint, there is no reason to say, it's worse if men/women do it. In regards of men, in many cases, it happens due to a financial transaction. Also dating is not equally sucks for all men. There is a proportion of men who can have sex with a different woman on any given day of the week and there are men with far less options yet still much more then the avarage... At large though, sure, it is far harder fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 12:36 AM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?Great. We do not have to aggre on everything, that's fine, and hey, so far it didn't happen but maybe at some point life will prove me wrong. I appreciate you being a good sport. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?Yes. Usually and unfortunately the extremists are the loudest in any given group, hence they are the most "in your face". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?Well, risk is always involved in whatever you do. If you don't wish to take those risks you might as well stay in your room for the rest of your life IMO. Wether you will be thrown away or not, it hugely depends on you. High value men are rare, be one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?How so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 06:13 PM |
| 0 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?Well fair enough. First off, there are a lot of people who seem to think that hypergamy is kind of a "straight jacket", that women (all women) will only date up and will immediately leave her partner the moment he becomes less valuable then her. This is an utter nonsense, and if you think that RP talks about hypergamy in this sense, i understand your resentment. The second very common misunderstanding is that RP claims are based on generalities and on the balance of probabilities not on the indi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?I am not sure what perspectives you find derogatory. Perhaps you can elaborate if you wish. From the men's standpoint the anger/frustration exists prior to someone getting any knowledge about RP stuff like hypergamy for instance. It comes from constant failure and blameshifting. Once you understand that where you are in life is the direct consequence of your own decisions in the vast majority of the cases, you have the chance to change your perspectives and make better/more informed decisions. R… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?There's a really small proportion of men who are actually angry about female hypergamy. Men in general are not angry about your standards. If you try and listen to what reputable RP tought leaders say you will understand that it is more like a warning to those with unrealistically high standards. There's nothing wrong with hypergamy as long as it is within reasonable limits. When it isn't it hurts women more so then it hurts men. There's a quote from Rollo Tomassi (i am paraphrasing): the Red Pi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketYou're still describing a financial transaction. Look, it doesn't really matter what analogy we use. Money is a placeholder for value (i assume you know the history of "money"). At the core, every interaction between human beings there is a value exchange, dating included. I'd kindly remind you however that you also used a financial transaction as an analogy in your OP, i have used mine in the exact same sense. The crux of the issue lies within one's preceived versus realistic value. Ferrari-s c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 11:41 AM |
| 2 | you aren't lonely because women find you ugly. you are lonely because you are a 3 looking for a supermodelThere are people who are very beautiful but are with men that look like trolls. I've got to laugh how you people always pounding on the exceptions. There are men too, who are successful, high value and married to a gold digger or a much older/uglier woman. So what? Not everyone will behave exactly the same way. General rules leave plenty of space for exceptions and differences. also about the other part. you can't be someone who is a 3 as a man and trying to find a supermodel. This is true. you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/22 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketThis is also true albeit it is a different aspect of our conversation. I am saying that you will not going to go out on a date with just anyone (i presume, you are a woman), nor will i (man), and this is all fine. We have our pre requisites (the "price" we ask for the "Ferrari"), our thresholds. A large proportion of women (I'd argue the majority), especially on OLD, have an abundance mindset, because they are bombarded with male attention, while men have a scarcity mindset because they aren't b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/22 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketThis is true but do you spend time with just anyone or do you not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketNeither side is selling. Not in the literal case of course, no. They're trading. There's a transaction regardless. The one who is needed more by the other has the right/upper hand in determining the price (as in what's expected from the other). One person's time and intimacy for the other person's time and intimacy. Only after the relationship is somewhat established, and they both want/need each other, it may become a barter, not until then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketDating is not a barter system. You determine your price, the market determines your value. Men approach in the vast majority of the cases, this is in essence an expression of need, therefore women have the upper hand in determining their "pricece" because they are the one needed. The more options (or the illusion of options rather) a woman have the higher the asking price may be. There's a threshold, if that is met, only then it may become a barter. Again the more options one has the higher the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Value is determined by the marketMen are always whining on here that women only want to get with men who have 'higher SMV' than them, but that's in denial of basic economic theory. No, men are saying that there's a large proportion of women, especially on OLD who price that Ferrari on $4K then do not understand why no one wants anything other then a test drive. You have this all backwards. Men are not the sellers in the vast majority of the cases, women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 05:12 PM |
| 3 | The whole “Chad” thing is extremely overblown, women consistently get with men less attractive than themPeople tend to oversimplify the ""Chad"phenomenon". Like "women ONLY want "Chad"". It's just as BS as claiming that there's nothing to it. If you think women do not stand in line for "Chad" you must have sleepwaked trough your late teens and twenties. Women do want "Chad" in any given time of their life, but they also want someone reliable and trustworthy, the older they get the more this is true. "Chad" is probably none of those, because "Chad" has virtually endless options and he isn't shy to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/22 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Is there a way to hold frame so that if someone like Dan Bilzerian came knocking you'd be able to keep the girl you're seeing?If she is into you she will not even see other men. If she is not, the clock is ticking and she will leave eventually if a better (then you) option is available. So yes, there is a way, keep her interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 04:32 AM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.you and that redditor are biased and will likely not point out the times when a lifeboat full of men sunk. all you've done is cherry pick events that might've biased data in favor in your narrative while ignoring the ones that did not. Perhaps you need to read back the thread and refresh your memory in regards what we are talking about, because you seem to be confused a little. I told you already, the claim was that "There's no chivalry on a sinking ship". My efforts here were made in order to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 05:57 PM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.literally repeating a few cases I must, because you keep ignoring the evidence. I told you already once, these are not just a "few cases", which could have been obvious to you since the beginning if you'd have been willing to read the post at the link i sent to you. I never said your anecdotes were factually wrong No, you called them anecdotes the first place, that's the problem. There's a difference between anecdotes and facts. It's funny you're accusing me of not arguing in good faith while yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 12:23 AM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Dude, do I really have to repeat myself? You keep talking about anecdotes. Did you actually read what i have written or do you not even care? It is really hard to have a conversation with you if you do not even pretend to understand what was said. There is nothing anecdotal in my response, i came with traceable facts. If you wish to continue, respond to what was said correctly or else we are done here. the argument is, chivalry was attempted on 18 ships but was done so poorly that women and chil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 11:16 PM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.ofc there will be dramatic anecdotes and ways the data can be biased It's not about "anecdotes", i didn't even read the anecdotal section of his post nor did i mention any of it in my comments, the only thing i care about is hard core data and facts. Talking about anecdotes in this conversation is a strawman. The initial study attempted to prove it's hypotheses comparing the number of perished women vs the number of perished men and took some factors into account (like wether WCF orders were iss… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 02:11 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Lol totally BS. 2-3 boats where floodings or a lost lifeboat lowered survival rate for women -- I totally believe that this redditor would bring up any factors that biased the data in the opposite direction. Not at all. We have 2 ships on which the existence of altruistic chivalry towards women is is pretty much granted (Titanic and Brickenhead) then we have one case in which women left in the first lifeboat which sank right away, then we have an other in which two life boats, carrying women and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Question for coupled people: Where did you meet your partner?I (M35) met my wife at work, back in 2014. God damn the "no fraternity" rules lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:18 PM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Now that i had some time to dig deeper in this phenomenon, i have stumbled upon some very interesting facts that the study failed to account for. For instance, there is at least two known cases, where WCF order was not announced, yet women and children were first in the lifeboats. Unfortunately in one case, such a lifeboat, that was released first (full of women and children) sunk, and all on board perished. In an other case, two of those lifeboats were doomed on the open sea. In a third case, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 04:08 PM |
| 1 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/pscqt5/critiquing_the_mikael_elinderoscar_erixson_study/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 03:54 PM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.A prime example of how feminist "scientists" try to forward their agenda against better evidence. Facts be damned... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 03:52 PM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Dude, the claim was that chivalry is virtually nonexistent, it's just a "myth". If you actually bother to read the critique, you may realize that it was chivalry and WCF orders (either given or complied with without order) that doomed the women in many cases. Women and children were usually filled the first lifeboats, and it happened in multiple cases, that such a lifeboat full of women and children sank, and all of them perished. In an other case, single women were at the rear of the ship, whic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 03:49 PM |
| 3 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.So because some women don't have kids, that means women as a whole are freed from the caretaking role. No, it means you have a choice. Also there's an enormous social pressure and shaming on men - who already provides - to "free their women" of caretaking, but there's no such pressure on women to be the provider. Not all men are drafted so I guess by your logic men aren't upheld to their role either. And that's if there's a war. Unless you are Ukrainian there's no need for men to take up arms ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 07:02 AM |
| 4 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.WCF order was called on five ships, though such orders are not really useful if the passengers do not or can not comply. On the Titanic, the order was likely enforced, and from this standpoint, it was indeed an outlier, i was wrong. The fact however is, that men have survival advantage over women does not prove the assumption that "there is no chivalry on a sinking ship". There is supportive data for the contrary however, even if not in all cases, and even if the behavior is not always 100% volu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 06:20 AM |
| 5 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Officially, there is no women or children first, correct. I am more familiar with safety procedures on board then most, as i have served as "chief life raft" for about 6 months on a cruise liner. Modern standards were introduced way after the tragedy of the Titanic, which means, in the case of the Titanic, it was basically a "free for all", with minimal procedures. This proves my point further. When you leave people to their own devices, this is what you get: 1.: women, 2.: children, 3.: men. Ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 10:37 PM |
| 13 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.There is no chivalry on a sinking ship. Except, there is... http://www.icyousee.org/titanic.html 19% of men in total survived the sinking of the Titanic, versus 75% of women in total. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 10:13 PM |
| 4 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Given that birth rates are way under replacement level, I'd say, yes, many women did just that. They made a choice and put themselves first, before raising kids. If war is coming they have a choice to flee or stay. Men do not have that luxury, as it has now became clear. Military service is a choice for women, while men are drafted wether they want it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 10:09 PM |
| 5 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Any man is better suited for combat then any woman. Men are "built" for combat, women are "built" to carry children, we are animals first, prior to being humans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 10:03 PM |
| 5 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Precisely. Though i was on about global organizations like the IMF. Women hold much more power then they claim credit for. It's only interesting because apparently we still live in a patriarchy... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 09:54 PM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Don't forget the world economy and finance. So much for "more power for women" lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 08:45 PM |
| 6 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Quite a lot actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 08:44 PM |
| 8 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Or, maybe men should not rage wars??? What "men"? You mean Putyin? Putyin is "men"? Should you have any doubt, 99% of "men" is against war and NATO (made up mostly by "men") is trying to avoid the third freaking world war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 08:43 PM |
| 8 | People with siblings of the opposite gender, did it influene your view on who has it easier?Women think it's easier for men, men think it's easier for women. Meanwhile in reality, it's an equal shit show for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 04:28 AM |
| 5 | Traditional gender roles and lesbianism.Are gender roles impossible to escape? I think, it largely depends on what do you mean by gender roles. If it is about doing the laundry or earning the bread, it's unquestionably easy to escape, though it may cause all sorts of issues. What really matters IMO is dominance and submission. It is virtually impossible to be in a 100% equal relationship, one will always have the last word, more so then the other, and that one will always be the more masculine one, with more power, more wit and more a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 01:30 AM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?Is marriage the only form of relationship? Do people always marry to someone who they find the most attractive (looks, personality etc) or do they settle? Is the age factor a correlation or a causation? If we talk about marriage though, who is far more likely to marry older partners, men or women? Which party is more likely to initiate the divorce in high gap relationships and why? Most women marry men of a similar age Most women are unable to hold down a "high value man" for a LTR. Does this me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 10:06 PM |
| 1 | I am red pilled, but the whole idea that women only care about looks or even prioritize it is simply not accurateYou got the idea: "looks above all" from either blackpillers or incels. Looks, money, status and the personality to achieve all that will grant you options, so that you can establish an abundance mindset and choose wisely from the pool, instead of ending up desperate and wife up the first woman who spreads her legs for you, thinking that that's all you can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 05:48 PM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?You do not, perhaps. You, personally, and that's fine. What others want is a different business. You can - at any time - go ahead and ask those older, successful men with younger girlfriends/wifes wether their women want them or not. Not only the movie stars of course, but businessmen and entrepreneurs, tenants of the C-suite. The reason of their success with women is their success in life, not their age, but that success takes time to achieve, hence those men tend to be older. Regardless of wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 05:19 PM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?That is literally what you just did. That is literally what you have taken from what i said. Are you trying to say you had another point? I am not trying to do anything. My point was clear from the beginning. I do not wish to repeat myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?It's just hilarious how when men like you try to make the argument that women like older men, then choose a multimillionaire celebrity as your supposed evidence lmao. Perhaps your reading comprehension requires some improvement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 03:07 PM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?No, i am proving you that the image of "old man" in your head is dead false. Jason Momoa is 42 years old. Rip him of his fame and celebrity status and imagine the same guy as an entrepreneur. Now tell me that he will have no more options from any age groups then your avarage dude at whatever age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 02:42 PM |
| 4 | 'Men also seek the prettiest, youngest women' is true, but a red herringThere are plenty of men who leave or cheat if they become men with options, and there are plenty who remain loyal, if not to his wife, but to the promise he made or due to social conditioning. There are plenty of women who do exactly the same. It is futile to look for differences based on gender in regards of intentions, as there is none. It all balances out in the end. If you listen to men, all of us will have at least one story of a broken heart we suffered, just as women do. We are all capabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Not only are you a beta male simp pussy you're also a moron if your solution to paternity fraud is it has to be government mandated.They wish it were government mandated because at the moment, there are countries where DNA tests require the mother's consent to be admissible at court. Sure, you can do it secretly but the best you can do with the results is wiping your ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 10:12 AM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?Anecdotal evidence is exactly that. You can tell me if you wish, that this guy here: https://newscentre.vodafone.co.uk/smart-living/entertainment/what-to-watch-on-amazon-prime-video-in-april-2021/ has got no more options then your 20x years old avarage dude: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Average+men&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1h_XhrcT2AhVdQUEAHeooAVEQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=360&bih=655&dpr=2#imgrc=4eaxC8c3tych_M Go on, and be serious about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/22 12:39 AM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?The truth is that i speak from experience while the basis of your thinking is what you think you personally would not do, while keep imagining the men i talk about as the "goblins" about whom i said those are not the men i am talking about. I am not going to repeat myself, read back what i have said and if you wish to have a conversation, address my claims exactly. Else, this conversation have reached the point of diminishing returns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 11:49 PM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?It's just pure cope from older men who are desperate to believe young women are lusting after them, we aren't, we really really aren't. You are more then welcome to believe whatever you wish, I am telling you what is. Your beliefs are insignificant on this matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 11:09 PM |
| 1 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?Why do you think it's desperation? No, it is fact, from experience. You are cringing because in your imagination, a 40 years old guy is a balding, fat, ugly, sex-hungry, dumb troll who thinks money can buy anything. Sure enough, there are plenty men like that. Only we are not talking about them. Those are not men in our translation, that's what i said. No one should aim to become that troll and for those males, the options are just as thin as it is for any other low value males, only, they can a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 10:16 AM |
| 2 | What is up with with "men peak later in life" bullcrap ?Men have to become, and that takes time. If you do not understand this, you won't understand any of it either. Regardless of the delusions a few people tend to believe here, romantic love is not something you can build a lasting relationship upon. The tingles, the butterflies are unquestionably addictive, but none of those lasts for more then a few months, then when the pink fog dissolves, reality kicks in. Men are wanted by women as long as we are able to act like men do, we must perform, we mu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 12:33 PM |
| 1 | What is simping? What do people think simping is?Any kind of unearned, unwarranted, non reciprocal act or "free" attention in hope or with the expectation of getting something in return is simping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 08:43 AM |
| 2 | If prostitution became legalized and normalized, how do you think that would affect relationships among cis gendered straight couples?Honestly, i think it would change nothing. If you are willing to pay for sex, you can probably get it right now, wherever you are. Men want sex indeed, but sex is not only what men want. Men need the "girlfriend experience", as in: someone to give a fuck. Thurst for sex will diminish over time if you pay for sex or get it trough other means, but those who can provide that illusion of the girlfriend experience will always be more sought after then those who just simply spread their legs. The real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Men often say “agreeableness” is a top trait they desire in a partner more so than women state that. Why is that?The thing is leadership is organic. If you’re genuinely not more competent than her, don’t expect an adult to yield to bad decisions. I do not disaggree at all. You can't expect to be respected if you are not worthy of it, nor can you expect to be followed if you are not a worthy leader. This is why RP says that men must become, as almost no one is born to be a leader. Men assume leadership exactly because women are looking for competent leaders, and the expectation of agreeableness comes along … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Men often say “agreeableness” is a top trait they desire in a partner more so than women state that. Why is that?It’s clear it’s what it means for many men. What that would be? Also, what "many men" means in your translation? Are the numbers of those men enough to establish generalizations? I am not saying that men do not "want" to lead. I asked you why is that in your opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 05:59 PM |
| 1 | Men often say “agreeableness” is a top trait they desire in a partner more so than women state that. Why is that?It is fair to say, yes, but where that dynamic is coming from? Do men want to lead or are we encouraged if not "forced" to do so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 05:52 PM |
| 4 | Is it normal as you get older to become numb to women's feelings (for heterosexual men, specifically)?Yeah, it's normal. Emotions are not the ground to build your world on. Men have to perform, we must understand that reason and logic is the no1. tool to achieve success and that requires us to be in control of our emotions. Women are not required to be emotionally stable on the same level as men, so - generally - they will lead with emotions, they will make decisions, based on emotions first. One way to overcome the problems coming from this is to become numb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Men often say “agreeableness” is a top trait they desire in a partner more so than women state that. Why is that?Aggreablness simply means that you respect boundaries, know when and how it is worth/necessary to disagree and when it is futile or flatout harmful. It does not mean that you have to blindly follow an incompetent men's every single word. If you want a leader, you must be able to follow. Simple as that. You have agency in chosing your leader. No men want to be challenged and have his every single decision questioned just for shits and giggles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 05:02 PM |
| 1 | How many more hours would a man have to work to balance the effort/stress in a relationship?Pretty much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/22 09:01 AM |
| 4 | How many more hours would a man have to work to balance the effort/stress in a relationship?I think you can't monetize this. True indeed she is the one who is reliable for incomparably more when it comes to pregnancy and labour. On the other hand, as it became clear in the latest military conflict in Europe, men are required by law to defend their country, while women can chose. Men are also obliged to defend tgeir household and family if funny noises come from the kitchen in the middle of the night, it is him, not her who is required to go and check it. I see no problem with any of th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/22 08:51 AM |
| -1 | How many more hours would a man have to work to balance the effort/stress in a relationship?But many women are asserting that there is an extremely prevalent (as in it is the overwhelming norm) effort imbalance between men and women in relationships, especially with family. It's because they are overly occupied with their own shit and keep complaining about what their husband do not do without ever seeing what he is doing all the time. Men and women are equal nowdays, but feminism still have to find problems to survive, and where is no problem, they create. Do they mess up families? Su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/22 08:28 AM |
| 1 | How many more hours would a man have to work to balance the effort/stress in a relationship?Are you aware of studies in regards of what men do more? There is always two sides of the story. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/22 08:15 AM |
| 4 | Just admit you’re into snuff porn, good lord…Porn is voluntary and one of the fields where women are paid better. Thought feminism is for choice.. 🤷♂️ | /r/AntiFeminists | 05/03/22 08:09 AM |
| 2 | Jeez. Do you think these women actually have met men?https://images.app.goo.gl/GmwTKtFafRWLmJb27 | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/03/22 06:46 PM |
| 0 | Why is the marriage rate falling?That's because the marriage rate is on the decline. Cross reference it with the total population and you'll have a very different perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Why is the marriage rate falling?Marriage rates are on the decline and divorce rates are increasing since the industrial revolution and took a nose dive from the 1960-s. The single most significant driving factor for both is the invention of the birth control pill. Women now do not need men, and men do not need women either from the socioeconomical standpoint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/22 05:24 PM |
| 2 | Do women really care about height as much as PPD claims they do?Exactly. That's why i said, it doesn't really matter as long as you are taller then she is in high heels. They say they want 6 feet on OLD and it's even genuinely in their mind but the number doesn't really matter here, they don't really know what it means. The experience does. Most of the times at least... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Being a "beta bucks" is better than being an "alpha".The alt right overlap in TRP was way more blatant as was the misogyny. There were some fucked up takes on rape, underaged girls, and consent in general. Hence the quarantine. After one tiny hipopotamus a horse came in the dining hall and laughed at the chandelier. Two bananas were taken as hostage but they both been green and shallow. Also the bees are bad for the skin. Bees shouldn't exist if you don't like honey. See.. Saying things is very easy. Everyone can do it. Some can even do it to an e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 01:07 AM |
| 4 | Do women really care about height as much as PPD claims they do?They have no concept of what is 6 foot and what is not. Like, if you tell them to show how much taller a 6 foot guy is, most of them aren't even close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 12:02 AM |
| 2 | Being a "beta bucks" is better than being an "alpha".Lol haters. I love the attempt to rebrand TRP. "It's just about self improvement!!!" Suuurrreeeee. Well someone has only to say "hypergamy" and there you have it. Suuurrreeeee. If you do have anything more substantial then what you've provided so far, bring it on. it should also be quarantined though. And yet, it is not. So you have further proven my point. What gets banned/quarantined and what doesn't is entirely subjective. You can't use subjective measures if you wish to make a judgement as j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 12:00 AM |
| 2 | Being a "beta bucks" is better than being an "alpha".But not therapy to confront the negative outcomes of following TRP and what brought them to it in the first place. There's a reason TRP sub got quarantined. Negative outcomes do not come from following a subreddit, that's bullshit. Most of those people already had negative outcomes and that's what brought them there the first place. Besides the TRP subreddit is not the Red Pill, it is a community which uses the Red Pill praxeology (the study of intersexual relationship dinamics) a certain way in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 10:16 PM |
| 6 | Do women really care about height as much as PPD claims they do?Yeah. Women don't care about your height, as long as you are taller then she is in high heels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Being a "beta bucks" is better than being an "alpha".I actually heard many RP tought leaders saying that people who need therapy should go to therapy. They did give this as personal advice too to those who called them on their podcast... These people here are arguing out of ignorance, having not the slightest clue about any of the RP stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 06:22 PM |
| 2 | There should be empathy courses in school that teach people - both men and women - how to date SOLELY based on behavior and intellect instead of looks.I aggree with the sentiment that there should be more emphasis on personality traits, rather then looks, but you can't "teach" people to date "solely", based on those traits. Sexual attraction is a very important part of any relationship, and that attraction is primarily driven by looks. What exactly people will find sexually attractive may be determined by culture, but the need for that attraction is tought to be hardwired. Besides, given our "pickup-culture", personality is not something peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Does sex change things?Sex doesn't change things. People do. I think, two mature person can handle it, sex is just sex. It may become problematic if one is getting attached while the other is not and the one who is getting attached can not handle the rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 08:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Should men be judged on their history too?I think people should be judged on the individual basis, at the time when judgement becomes necessary. Past should be in the red flag department, which means more information is needed about the person's current state of mind. If she has a promiscuous past the chances for a promiscuous future is increased but only if she didn't go trough some genuine change. If he was an oversized basement dweller infusing Cheetos and soda, he might not be your best choice unless he learned his lessons and upgra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 08:22 AM |
| 0 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hateI can't really speak on FDS because i am not familiar with it, but one thing seems to be true. Any time someone says the Red Pill is an ideology, people who actually know something about intersexual relationship dynamics (Red Pill) kinda know that the rest of the comment is nothing but argument from ignorance. The Red Pill do not "hate" anything or anyone. It is an attempt to describe reality without the sugarcoat and the fairy tails. Some may accept that reality and act accordingly, while other… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Study on what 1,000 women feel about muscular men in terms of attraction.It doesn't matter what some people say here, if you ever been all fat, skinny and buffed in your life and you are not entirely blind in regards of interest clues, you do not need studies to tell you what's the difference in initial attention. A simple shopping trip is an entirely different experience when you are fat vs when you are pumped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 08:24 AM |
| 1 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapYou know, the reason i am skeptical with these studies is that they are often made to to show a desired result. In order to do that, these studies do not control for certain variables. For instance, do your studies take commuting times into consideration at all? Men commute further on avarage, and men commute even further when kids are involved in order to bring in more money. What exactly counts as "household chore"? Certain tasks like breastfeeding can not be done by men while certain tasks th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 08:10 AM |
| 2 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapSimple right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 11:46 PM |
| 5 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gap1 out of 10 is nagging here about having to do household chores while contributing less then half to the bills. Women do work more within the house. No arguments there. Though men work more outside of the house and that's something you should consider. You are welcome to bring in the calvary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 11:43 PM |
| 1 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapSo, I’ve succeeded, I convinced all my fellow women to not select men above their own socioeconomic level! Now what? Keep up the good work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 11:30 PM |
| 2 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapI can relate tbh. My family didn't have two sticks to place across, i was born in Romania, not long before the communist system collapsed. I developed bronchitis because of the mold in the flat, sometimes we had nothing but bread and water. I remember what's it like to be poor. Many people here haven't the clue. I am not rich now, but i have enough to support a family so my wife can decide what she wants to do. I am flexible really. If she want me to chip in with the household, she is welcome to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 05:36 PM |
| 5 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapThat happens 1 out of 10 times tops. Even when i said i don't care what my partner choses, she can be a SAHM, pay no bills but do most of the chores or we can split the bills and do 50/50, i still got bitched at and downvoted.. Plenty of you guys keep projecting your BS onto things we never actually said then claim that we said those things on other threads. It's childish AF. Many of you are just looking for trouble TBH. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Lots of women are pushing back against the patriarchy and trying to hold men to higher standards, but what difference does it make if they don't have children?Grow up dude. 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:03 PM |
| 2 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapI am happy for you and your husband. I wish you both well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:02 PM |
| 5 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapYou yourself hold the belief that women are worse at certain jobs, so you can't tell me that women don't believe this and stay away from certain fields as a result! Well, yes. Women are actually worse at certain jobs, typically when it comes to physical jobs, like white goods delivery. If you ever tried to carry a washing machine or an American fridge-freezer to the second floor you kinda know what i am talking about. When it comes to jobs where physical strength is not relevant, i don't think t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 01:52 PM |
| 1 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapWell, yes. If you dig deeper into personalities you may find that driven and go-getter women are like that for different reasons then men in the same category. But as you said, it's intuition and can't really be backed by data. The point was though that the "wage gap" is wider or narrower, dependant on the groups you compare and the subject of your comparison, hence this whole wage gap thing is highly subjective. You can find all sorts of wage gaps dependant on eye color or height or feet size..… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 01:32 PM |
| 1 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapWell shoot me in the leg, but i don't understand what you're getting at here. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 01:08 PM |
| 4 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapBecause that's what they're encouraged to do, girls are taught from a young age that anything beyond passivity is bitchy, that they're not suited for certain jobs, and that caring for children is their responsibility. But this is just not true in 2022 in the western countries. There are a plathora of incentives and affarmitive action to encourage young women to go ahead and chose male dominated areas. The whole society is trying to push young women into male dominated STEM fields. But even if yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 01:05 PM |
| 3 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapWether i like your reply or not, depends on wether you have a shiba or a doge hoodie on your profile pic. :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 11:26 AM |
| – | I smacked a woman's ass on the train and she got mad at meYou guys are pathetic. | /r/AntiFeminists | 19/02/22 11:24 AM |
| 5 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapI think men are called sexist because of comments like this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 11:15 AM |
| 4 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gap🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 10:53 AM |
| 7 | The effect of mate choice on the wage gapThere is some wage gap even when it's controlled for variables, but it's far less then the "84 Cents on a Dollar". Also, unmarried, childless young women actually tend to out earn their unmarried, childless male counterparts. Wether the wage gap exists or not, it's highly dependent upon how you measure it. The uncontrolled wage gap (all men's income vs all women's imcome in a year) do exist however, and this measurement is what most often referred to as "wage gap". Also this is the most misleadi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 10:52 AM |
| 4 | If af/bb and awalt is true, why isn't redpill mainstream?Af/bb is the claim that most women ride the cock carousel only with Chads later on settling with a beta guy for money. Not exactly. It's not about "most women". And this ties into your misconception of what AWALT is. The claim is that women have different preferences when it comes to conscious mate selection, versus short therm relationships. There are multiple studies to suggest, "alpha" characteristics (like dominance or looks) are more important from arousal standpoint, while "beta" character… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 10:45 AM |
| 0 | If af/bb and awalt is true, why isn't redpill mainstream?What do you mean by af/bb? What do you mean by awalt? What do you mean by "redpill"? What do you mean by mainstream? Talking to people on this forum, i found that people often haven't the slightest clue when it comes to Red Pill terminologies or Red Pill itself. They often confuse incels with MGTOW-s, they don't know who is credible in RP communities, they don't know the definition of Manosphere. They don't know the difference between the TRP subreddit and the Red Pill praxeology. In short, peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 09:26 AM |
| 1 | What should be the consequence of false paternityBecause you said ‘maybe you like the idea of treating men like walking wallets’. Which was an answer to what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 04:16 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.There's a difference between "transactional" and "reciprocal". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/22 01:39 AM |
| 1 | What should be the consequence of false paternityWhy you make this about yourself? No one is talking about you personally on this thread. Can you imagine that there are plenty of women out there who are not like you? You took it upon yourself to disprove a claim about you that was never about you.. I am sure you cringe when you hear something like "female solipsism" but you just proven the point of those who think it exists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 08:35 PM |
| 3 | What should be the consequence of false paternityNo, paternity tests shouldn’t be mandatory. Because... It's painful for the baby.. Or what? Yes, the vast majority of kids do belong to the presumed father. The vast majority of men are decent, hard working individuals. This doesn't stop certain other individuals from being afraid of men. You just like the idea of treating all women as if they were whores and punishing women who don’t match your idea of meek submissive woman. Or maybe you like the idea of treating men as walking wallets instead … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | The existence of tits AND ass proves that women were biologically designed to be stared atFlair checks out. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 05:38 PM |
| 1 | Another outlier question: the Kardashian-Davidson-West saga seems to break all the rules and tropes of TRPJust wait a couple of months/years and let's see how it turns out. KW is not your typical alpha dude tbh. Exceptions do not invalidate general rules and nothing in RP is a straight jacket. Besides, as plenty others pointed out, celebrities are a whole different world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 04:33 AM |
| 1 | This conversation about male “ urges “ has to stop.No urges justify any kind of behavior IMO. If you have an urge to sleep with a child, you better be in control because the court will not care, as it should not. However, expecting sexual exclusivity is also an "urge". It made sense, when we had no defense against STD-s or unwanted pregnancies, it makes less sense these days. I am not sure what justifies expecting sexual exclusivity in the first place, especially knowing that a lot of people (both men and women) will fail to meet with it eventua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Lots of women are pushing back against the patriarchy and trying to hold men to higher standards, but what difference does it make if they don't have children?Where the, vast majority of those people coming from though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 01:05 AM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on women having jobs and income?I think the best way to raise kids is when those kids spend the most possible time with their birth parents (who are ideally decent people of course) in a loving and caring environment. Kids, growing up in families where both parents are working full time and/or career driven are essentially parent deprived and raised by the state and media and/or by other relatives, neighbors, nannies, what have you... Honestly, if my wife would make the bank and she could respect me for being a stay at home da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 10:21 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.It is stupid to blame women or men in general for anything at all. This isn't abot blame though. It's about responsibility and moral. Men who are simping are responsible for their immoral simping behavior, and women who take advantage of it are responsible for taking advantage on delusional behavior. Simps cause entitlement and entitlement cause simping behavior trough influence on culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 10:01 PM |
| 2 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.Where desperation is coming from? Is it not that you do exactly what culture and in many case, your single mom tells you to do and yet you achieve no success? Simping is the "strategy" that yields the least results. It is men wanting to be "different" from other men, they want to be the "nice guys", and they think that all they need to do is to show women that they are "worthy" and capable of unconditional love (which is far from the truth as this is nothing but virtue signaling), for exchange t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 06:20 PM |
| 4 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.I think the opposite is true. Most men starts with simping due to culture and upbringing. Putting women on the pedestal, thinking that they are angelic beings, perhapse more pure and better then men is a telltale sign. This is the initial concept of women in far too many men's mind. This behavior is destined to fail, but causes havoc until then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 05:32 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.We do not disaggree. I said, what she was doing is morally wrong IMO. I do not give her a pass, i am just saying if you have the option to make a bank because people want to support you for nothing more then your sheer existence, you may feel tempted to trade your moral integrity for material gains and this is going tocalter your personality in certain ways. But it's clear, if guys would not simp in large numbers, she and alike women would have no one to leach on, and would have to find somethin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 05:27 PM |
| 0 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillIf you're ugly AF but be well groomed, have a great personality and a lot of things going for you, no (or very few) woman is going to give you the time of day in the first place. Please give me one quote, just one, in which i state or at least imply that the above is not likely to be true. Extra point if you nail the context as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 05:18 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.Perhaps. I am not sure wether it's a minority or a majority. I am unaware of any significant study that would give us a somewhat accurate suggestion, so i think the size of this group is anyone's guess. I would like to beleive and my guess is that it is a subgroup, which means it's less then half the population. If you claim it's more, i won't have any substantial objection other then my opinion. Honestly, i don't see a solution either. But that's ok. The more people talk about these things, the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 06:52 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.🥰 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 04:32 AM |
| 2 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.How can one even keep a reasonable level of expectations in such a situation? Why wouldn’t your entitlement levels be in the clouds? Well that's exactly what i am talking about. Why the hell are we arguing? 😅 Even an avg chick is treated like a star. Below avg still have an unreasonable amount of "options" compared to IRL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 04:30 AM |
| 2 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.I didn't claim that it's successful. It's not, unless of course one defines success in missed opportunities and wasting time and money. My claim is that this kind of behavior is what makes a lot of women beleive that they have virtually endless options hence gives them a sense of entitlement which has a bad effect on dating and relationships in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 04:26 AM |
| 0 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.Download a dating app and set up a female profile with a below average looking woman’s pic and see what happens. First off, i am taking about avarage or slightly above avarage in the OP. Second, there is a massive amount of data about this out there, so you do not have to do it, it's enough if you Google it, unless of course you assume that they are all lying. Of course Chad isn’t going to LTR but what would you do with a thousand options? I hold nothing against "Chad" unless of course if he is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 04:18 AM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.There's nothing wrong with showing affection with a small token once or twice. There's everything wrong with buying women you only ever saw trough Skype expensive shit and paying for her living expenses for months/years in hope that she will see how generous you are and will take you as her BF at some point in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 03:50 AM |
| 2 | When it comes to dating and relationships, it's not primarily "female entitlement" that ruins the party, it's a subgroup of men, who is willing to simp for female attention.And why an avarage woman thinks, she should be able to land a "Chad"? I think, if you are a "Chad", there's nothing wrong with this indeed, golden life... But there are only so many "Chads" to go around and women don't appreciate if their LTR is pumping other chicks on the side. Besides most women want relationships at some point, and that's one thing that "Chad" will likely not to offer. ... there’s nothing wrong with women operating this way. I strongly disagree. The entitlement that comes out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillThis is what i started my OP with: "I am not really sure how many times I've "heard" talking to people on this sub that personality doesn't matter FOR RED PILL AWARE MEN." I beleive you misjudged my premise. It's fine though, there's about 2 people on this thread who actually got it. As to which one is matter more, it's entirely situational. It depends on environment, the goal of the encounter, the receiver's personality, wether the first encounter os IRL or OLD... Generally speaking a good look… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 02:43 AM |
| 1 | Until feminine attributes are no longer connected with inferiority and being under a man, more women are going to reject traditional femininityMen have created their own version of feminine and then brainwashed women into believing this is how women naturally act. That feminine means “vulnerable, docile, submissive”. Vulnerable was pretty much given. Docile and submissive? Well, if you want a leader, you have to learn to follow. What's wrong with that? Generally speaking you people were looking for men with power and status for like always, the best you can get. Even today, when you leave men behind in income and education, you still d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 08:14 PM |
| 2 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillIf you want "hot chicks" you have to be a hot guy. I am not saying that you can pull a 24 yo bikini model, just need a good personality. I am saying, personality matters. Both your personality and her personality. And your intentions too. You wanna bang and leave? Personality is secondary. You want an LTR? Personality is primary unless you want to be fooled. There is a threshold that must be met in both cases. True. But an avarage looking guy can pull an avarage girl, even slightly over avarage … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillIf you ask a woman, what is her desire in regards of height, she will say 6 feet +. If you enquire further though, you will find out that she doesn't really have a concept of what that actually means. The point is that she wants you to be taller then her, and she wants you to be still taller when she is in high heels. The avg height of a man in the UK is 5.9, the avg height of a woman is 5.3, the avg height of a high heel is 0.3-4. So the avarage dude is still 2 inches taller then the avarage gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillIf she finds you physically attractive it's far easier to make her feel good. It's not about not being ugly. It's about being physically attractive to her. And again, if it's no, no amount of personality is going to offset your looks unless you're willing to be with a woman who is going to duty sex you down in the road. We are talking about initial attraction. Like i am not arguing the fact that you have a far easier time attracting someone if you look like a greek god, nor am i saying that you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillSure it is. With certain rules attached. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 03:02 PM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red Pill👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillIt's cool. No i said "game" is analog with social skills. Not the same entirely but similar. At least interdependent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillI mean... That's the point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillAs per dictionary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 09:17 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillAnd? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillAnalogy: a correspondence or partial similarity. /Oxford Languages/ I'd press on the word: "partial". That confidence “know thyself” bullshit is weird and wrong IMO. Yepp, i don't really have any deep comment on this one tbh. Authentic confidence is among the most important skills. Knowing your capabilities and weaknesses is also beneficial for success (winning) which is key to achieve confidence. Psychology 101... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillIt's CONFIDENTLY using your attributes, characteristics, and overall personality to win the affection of the woman you want. You can't have game if you don't know yourself; you can't be confident in what you're ignorant of. Ie.: social skills? 🤦♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillHonestly, i am not exactly sure what are we arguing about. Like, what i said and what you said are not mutually exclusive. Yes, people make assumptions based on looks. Your life is definitely much easier if you are a 6feet+ ripped guy with a full head of hair and a chiseled jawline. I don't remember arguing against this. Personality matters. This was my claim. Does it matter more then looks? Depends. From arousal standpoint it doesn't, as long as a certain threshold is met in regards of personal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillYepp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 04:40 AM |
| 3 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillDark triad traits are only attractive to a certain subset of women, it's like they either madly in love with them or hate them if they realize what's happening in time. I am not even sure I'd want to be around those women who are in love with the thing tbh. But as i said, RP derives a conclusion from data (which is, either accurate or inaccurate), then it's up to people what they do based on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillHowever, if she doesn't find you physically attractive, talking to her beyond basic courtesy is a waste of time. It is true in some cases, however you can definitely offset your looks with being confident, intelligent, funny etc.. It does matter, sure, but in many cases, it is far more important how you make them feel then how you look, given that you are not ugly AF and smell like fart with a beard that you could trim with your toe nails if you'd be interested to trim it at all. Giving women pi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 01:30 AM |
| 3 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillCorrect. Your looks may get you trough the door easier and has the potential to open more doors, but what will keep you there is who you are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillExactly. Or even with a critical, open mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 01:11 AM |
| 0 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillThat's a really narrow view of the manosphre dont you think? Wait. Didn't you accuse RP aware people of being narrow minded? 😁 Jokes aside.. No you do not have to be emotionally distant. That doesn't mean that you should (or even could) emote like women do. And that perhaps you are a psycho if you do not cry at the end of the Titanic. You are talking about PUA though which was superseded by the study of intersexual relationship dinamics, commonly referred to as "Red Pill" about 10 - 15 years ago… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 01:10 AM |
| 3 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillTo a particular subset of women i think this applies indeed. Not sure though that those are the women you want in your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 01:03 AM |
| 2 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillNah, game is the analog for social skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 01:01 AM |
| 2 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillI don't know why non-TRP people have the idea that TRP is not about relationships and that TRP thinks personality doesn't matter. The praxeology is not easy. There are a lot of things interconnected within and people who are thinking in binaries can not fathom complexity (fun fact, they are the first to claim that the RP speaks in simplistic terms which could not be further from the truth). Besides, there are a lot of overly simplified misinterpretations going around, created by hater or by self… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 11:33 PM |
| 2 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillEither way the entire concept of it is to learn to handle women who have a lot of negative personality traits. Or to avoid them rather. Which is one of the reasons why there's a lot of backslash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 11:26 PM |
| 3 | Once and for all, personality matters, even for Red PillWhat that notion would be though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Why do red pillers want to date women when you guys hold such negative views on us?I'm curious, if I thought an entire group of people were shallow, judgemental, cruel, intellectually and emotionally inferior, I sure as hell wouldn't be trying to spend my life with them, I'd be trying to get as far away from them as possible. Interesting. It seems to me that you are categorizing an entire group of people here. I don't know how many times i have to say this but the red pill is a praxeology and the red pill aware manosphere is not a unified block of men holding the exact same vi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticNo i don't. Bezos provides value to people, and that's one way to get filthy ritch (the other is to be a dick and steal it). Zuckerberg provides value, Jobbs provides value, Gates provides value, Musk provides value... John Doe under the bridge provides no value, more then that, whatever he has, takes it from someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticI see the point. I don't think it's a good one. Comparing a hear surgeon to a homeless person isn't applicable to the dating game. No, it is 1000% applicable. If the only difference between John Doe and the heart surgeon is that Doe is living under a bridge and can not hold a job for a week, but otherwise they are about alike (personality/looks) who do you think has more options for quality women? Men with higher socioeconomic status ALWAYS had more options, and they are going to have even more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticThis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticYeah, like being a self proclaimed "bossbabe" or "strong and independent woman". If you must say it, it means you are not quite there yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticYou are missing the point. Is this deliberate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticWell you don't have to beleive in it, it's outside of the scope of belief. Jeff Bezos and John Doe living under a bridge are not equal in value. Yes, they are both human beings. But honestly, I don't think anyone wishes to be John Doe. I think all of us wish to be like Jeff Bezos (+ some hair). The contributions that Jeff Bezos provide is far higher then John Doe's, by all metrics, incomparable. A heart surgeon is higher in value as well, unquestionable. If you were to decide who lives and who d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticWell, you say if someone "spends all day on reddit" they can't be high value. So the question is what's "all day" you see. I see you here commenting rather often, more often then i see some rp-guys, so if they "spend all they" you must do too. Consequently, you are lower in value then those rp guys. Or this "metric" is useless. You may think the concept is stupid. It's a bit like "bossbabe" or "strong and independent woman"... If self proclaimed, it's stupid. Those men with actual high value are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticI mean in terms of your own description. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, would you leave a 7 in looks who you loved and had other shared interests/ values with, for a 10?Men seem to value looks more than anything else, like chemistry/love, compatibility, etc. So based on that it seems like you would constantly be looking to trade up if you could. Not quite right. Young and or unexperienced men may be charmed by beauty only, but people with some experience won't appreciate beauty above all. I think most grown up men would be happy to trade looks with personality. I don't think that there are so many people who would leave a pleasant 7 for an unpleasant 10, just b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticSo you are a low value woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 05:11 PM |
| 2 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).Didn't ring a bell lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Not really understanding the whole work on yourself movement.I am not sure what coaches you go to, but i suggest you change them ASAP. You don't work on yourself for women. You work on yourself for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 02:41 PM |
| 2 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).Profit on what exactly? You mean, there is some sort of sense in the gibberish he piled up here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 02:13 PM |
| 4 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).Well of course. When individuals make predictions, about individuals, based on false or insufficient information, they are often wrong. It's only that in the context of our conversation, that's not what's happening. What's happening is certain individuals take research and understanding/interpreting it in some way. Like, here is the pew research data https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/20/americans-see-men-as-the-financial-providers-even-as-womens-contributions-grow/ that found, even w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 10:15 AM |
| 3 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).What's step 3? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 09:54 AM |
| 4 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).Hmmm. You talk while saying nothing. No offense. You make claims without substanciateing them, communicating with people's emotions instead of their mind, while talking about "cult members". Those "cult members" base their claims on data and empirical evidence. It can still be wrong of course, because everything is subject to interpretation, but at least the claims are not without substance (ie. not opinions). You are attempting to debunk those claims with what exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 09:46 AM |
| 4 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).Well, not exactly. This works both ways. You can talk to them and make an assessment in regards of their personality then predict their behavior. You can also pay attention to how they conduct themselves and make predictions in regards of their personality. You can also do both and spot the differences between what they say and what they do. It won't always be accurate, but you'll be right more often then not. The more practiced you are, the more accurate your predictions will be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 09:38 AM |
| 5 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).So you can't predict what is the likelihood of a certain conduct based on personality type and given a situation? You can't say that an introvert person is more likely to be reserved in a certain social setting then an extrovert? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 09:21 AM |
| 6 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).Yes. I aggree. I just don't see how this goes against the concept of hypergamy for instance. I don't see an "either/or" relation, i see an "and" relation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 09:17 AM |
| 2 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).So there are no similarities in human behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 09:13 AM |
| 1 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).Women can separate sex and love. Men, not so much. "There's no ugly woman just not enough alcohol." You may hear some men saying this, but what would be the phrase that covers the same sentiment in women? Is there any? Also, no, i disaggree. This would mean that men are less likely to initiate sex without some sort of emotional connection. Is that really what's happening? I think it's the opposite (generally speaking). Men do not need flowers or catering or anything at all.. You are available, y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 09:09 AM |
| 6 | The female sexual strategy (hypergamy) cannot be understood without reference to the male sexual strategy (polygamy).That is not the way things work. How do things work? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/22 08:42 AM |
| 1 | How does TRP explain the outliers, the oddballs, the people who can’t be pigeonholed?Nothing that RP says is a "straight jacket". We are not the ones claiming that all people are definitely some way and exceptions do not exist. This has never been the claim and it will bever be. RP is based on data and talks about probabilities, findings are usually to be understood on a spectrum. Almost every time when someone argues with "but what about...?" here, it is usually a strawman or comes from utter ignorance of the given topic, even if the person claims to be red pilled. There's no n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/22 02:06 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?What i want is outside of the scope of this conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/22 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a mating strategy, not a sexual selection preferenceI get that. I'm just saying that this doesn't tell us much from the standpoint of hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is a mating strategy, not a sexual selection preferenceSo in that sense the "best match" is, the most different. It still doesn't speak about the "quality" though. Being different, it can be better, worse or same "quality". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 08:52 AM |
| 1 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyYeah, also, there are many people who deliberately choose to "suffer" and be in the perpetual position of "the victim" because it is beneficial in some way. They essentially trade agency for attention and/or service. It's a huge drain on both parties and literally can not be helped without proper treatment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 04:27 AM |
| 1 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyRight. It's only that your car doesn't have agency so you can't expect it to work on fixing itself, whereas your partner - being a supposed adult human being - does. Also, unless you are a car mechanic, there may be problems you are simply not equipped to fix. You can do your best but if you tinker with stuff you do not understand, you will cause more harm then good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 04:22 AM |
| 1 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happySurely you can make the distinction between chronic depression vs your partner being visibly upset because of something you did or didn't do. Of course you can, and you should. I am more about the first part then the second. You can certainly make your partner unhappy and that will be on you, no doubt. You can and should also try and help or at least listen to them if they are depressed, but you can not resolve their depression as long as your demeanor is not the cause of it. They have to figure… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 01:35 AM |
| 1 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyIf he comes to me for help, actually asking me directly to help him come up with a workout plan or clearing space for a home gym, then I would help. Otherwise, it’s his journey. Exactly. He can ask, or you can offer it, but he must carry the majority of the workload, one way or an other. This is what i meant. I think people need to realize that if they are "ultimately" unhappy in life (or to make it more clear, live with generalised anxieties), most of the times it's on them, and no one can solv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is a mating strategy, not a sexual selection preferenceLikewise, if she’s does not have to contend with resource scarcity and has mate choice, she will almost always choose a young male of the best genetic match. Best genetic match or best genetic setup available? Does a woman with inherited proclivities to certain diseases do not want a healthy(er) male with no or minimal proclivities? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/22 01:03 AM |
| 1 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyHe’s a grown man and totally capable of handling his own coffee in the morning, but I still get up and make it for him, and then go the fuck back to sleep. You are talking about bringing joy to his life. It's a non negotiable basic when you care about someone. If you do all that and he still not happy and you try to help him, but he still not happy, and he refuses to work on his issues (ie. go to therapy for instance) how long does it take for you to say "ok i tried hard enough, that's it, your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 10:27 PM |
| 2 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyIf you want to be unhappy you will find a reason. Exactly, spot on. You can do 99 things right, they will always focus on the 1 thing you do not do right. Nobody is perfect so there always be 1 thing that he/she can latch on. Happiness is a choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 10:19 PM |
| 3 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyI try to make my girlfriend happy because I feel a compelled obligation to do so and because I desire to see her happy! It isn't a job as if some outside 3rd party is demanding that I make her happy. This is something that I want to do for her. I think you are conflating happiness with joy. I'm clearly not talking about causing temporary happines (joy). I'm also not talking about "it's not my job to help you when you feel down for losing jour job or because your cat died". That's an entirely dif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 10:15 PM |
| 3 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyBeing responsible for his/her unhappiness is a different conversation then being responsible for his/her happiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 07:56 PM |
| 7 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyYou can't make someone happy. You can bring joy in their life. You can care about them, but if they are not happy as a default, it's not on you, therefore you can't help it. You can try and help of course but they have to carry most of the "workload". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 06:03 PM |
| 2 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happyAggreed. Maybe an extreme example, I think it's an accurate example. I think issues unsorted will always deepen and often to the point of abuse, be it emotional or physical. Happy people do not abuse others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 06:00 PM |
| 6 | It is not my "job" to make my partner happySure, i aggree, but i should want to HELP them, not do everything for them. You can improve someone's happiness and bring joy in their life but you can't MAKE them happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 05:57 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Guys being rejected/dismissed for not having a social media presence is a BS, hypocritical thing for women to judge men onSocial media is a lie to begin with. Everybody posts the best moments of their life, most of the time. You rarely see people struggling, if you'd post your struggles most people would avoid your profile. Even though struggle is part of life, for most people, more prevalent then the holidays and the laughs. It's a place where you create a fake image of yourself. Of you judge someone based on their social media accounts you are judging based upon insufficient information. I personally am rather an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 04:20 PM |
| -1 | Do you think lying to get money (gold digging) is okay?Is this a post where men are en masse agreeing that promising a commitment in order to pump and dump is a good thing? ? It literally has 0 upvotes... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Do you think lying to get money (gold digging) is okay?How is dangling the prospect of a relationship in front of women to get causal sex (with no intention of actually following through) any different than lying and manipulating to get a man’s money? Lying is bad, period. Nothing justifies lies in either case. As long as the gold digger is up front that she is out for money and not makimg false promises, it's cool with me, just as if a guy is not leading on a woman with future faking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?Complain about what? Understanding social issues in their complexity will lead to finding solutions. Reducing them into binary oversimplifications is nothing but bitching. The men who deliberately chose to abandon their children is the minority. It happens, yes, but it's far from being the main cause. There are a plathora of solutions offered in literature so i suggest you go right ahead and read independent sources and challenge your biases. That is of course if you are genuinely interested and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?If you're willing to reduce complex issues into black and white binaries that are often contribute to the perpetuation of those issues, then shure... It's "easy". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?If only it was that easy.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?Are you really gonna educate me on logical fallacies? You legit just linked me to the website I looked at more than a decade ago for my ENG101 class. Your attempt to sound intelligent…. Ugh 🤦🏼♀️ No, i gave you a link, so you can (re)educate yourself. I assumed, you commit these fallacies because you are unaware (you know, "benefit of the doubt" and all that). Making them deliberately while you are aware, then taking offence when it's pointed out for you is an entirely different game. Perhaps it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 04:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?Oh right right, women just run around committing crimes at the same rate as men, it's just the system has a clause to forgo punishment as long as you are a woman :D https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman (I personally had been arrested and got the largest jail punishment as a white female). You are making the personal political which is an other fallacy (it is your third up until now). There is research on the topic. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002 Do you need me t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?So why you replying to comment is a mere replying to a comment while me replying to a comment is "getting triggered"? Getting triggered comes of from your tone and demeanor, not from the fact that you replied. If women use more taxpayers money for welfare, how is it drastically different than men taking up tax payers money by committing more crimes? First of because men do not necessarily commit "more crimes", men are incarcerated with a much higher rate, true. It does not mean that they "commit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?Because i answered a comment? Why must i judge aniway? Men pay more taxes and use less benefits. It's not good not wrong. It's a neutral statement and it has a plathora of reasons. One of which is that men earn more and work more hours (married men with kids mostly) while more reluctant to seek medical treatment for their health issues, besides die 7-8 years younger on avarage. Also most of the richest people on Earth are men, and those billionaires do contribute to the economy with large tax pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 02:12 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?I love how you guys get triggered by facts stated without negative value judgements and shift the gopost instead of trying to rebutt the claim (perhaps it would be futile since it's a fact..). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 01:36 AM |
| 6 | Q4W: What is your main disagreement with the Red Pill?It's interesting how you make the political personal on this matter. The first claim is clearly a general claim. Men do pay more taxes and withdraw less benefits, compared to women in general. If it wasn't true, it would mean that the gender pay gap is a hoax. And yes, men built and run society since the dawn of time, wether we like it or not. Women's contribution was to raise the next generation which is equally important. You on the other hand are making it all about yourself. No one says that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think people are drifting apart from each other in dating and more and more people are perpetually single?I think individualism and consumer culture is to be blamed in a large portion. We consume each other like we do products. Just a few decades ago, we used to try and fix shit that was broken, now we just dump and go buy an other one. Even if people "try to fix things" they usually try fixing the other person instead of looking in the mirror, get offended and defensive upon the slightest criticizm. We try and comfort each other instead of being honest.. We say things we think others want to hear a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 05:30 PM |
| 1 | How can you know if the man you are dating is into redpill stuff?Perhaps if you have genuine burning desire for him, that's a good clue. He might be into some RP stuff or he might just be a natural. I've just seen this documentary on Netflix, The Tinder Swindler.. RP works flawlessly. Unfortunately the guy who used it (or have just been a natural) was/is a manipulative asshole who finessed mainly women into hundreds of thousands of debt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Which Family dynamic do you think is better overall?Question is, who is more important, the parents or the kids? If the parents, situation 1 is winning. If the kids, situation 2 is better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 03:03 PM |
| 6 | Question about work-housework balance in a relationshipWanting someone to pay all the bills and do half the chores in the same time is laughably proposterous. They think their only contribution to the relationship is whay they have between their tighs, plus their "charmimg personality", and that should be enough. It's also a massive hypocrisy because they are often the first to bitch about being objectified. 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 11:22 AM |
| 5 | Men's standards are too lowThing is, you don't have to have low standards. You can have realistic standards and never compromise. Need sex? Pay for it. Want companionship? Get a dog. Want friendship? Get actual friends. Want someone to give a shit about you? Keep your family close. Learn to be whole and happy on your own before you engage in a relationship. In fact if men would be willing not to compromise, the dating market would look rather different. Simping and white-knighting must die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 11:13 AM |
| 3 | Men's standards are too lowLike it's a choice... 😅 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 11:09 AM |
| 2 | Women who think men don’t look at them as “people” misunderstand male sexual attractionWell it's interesting how some women blame men for objectification, when they put their breasts and bums on social media and the same effort goes into their OLD profiles. Nah. Plenty of women objectify themselves for attention and validation then the same women complain that the world only appreciates them for their body. Young men see these women and assume unconsciously that women are alike which is also a false assumption. Takes two to tango, always. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 06:52 PM |
| 16 | Women who think men don’t look at them as “people” misunderstand male sexual attractionNot listening when we speak, speaking over us, not taking us seriously, acting entitled to our bodies, etc. It can be subtle or extreme, but the message is clear. Anything you say here can be said about women too, only the manifestation of the negative traits is genders specific - in some cases - the prevalence of them are not. The difference is, if men say this, it's caled mysoginy, if women do it's called "you go girl". Men speak over each other and don't take each other seriously, women do th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy does not affect men as much as people think it does.How the number of sex partners have anything to do with hypergamy? Hypergamy is about long term relationships. Am i missing something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Discussion/question for TRP's about sexercise and women with high counts"Hate" is an other buzzword that gets thrown around a lot. We don't "hate" high n-count women that's a huge exaggeration, but sure, you can find a couple retard who do hate them if you are looking for them. If it's just about sex, no one really cares. If about LTR, yeah, it matters. We may not want to date them but that doesn't mean we hate them now does it? Do women who prefer to date tall men hate short men? Don't think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/22 06:18 PM |
| 4 | How do I respond when a woman says that every standard in society that men are expected to live up to is set by other men and the patriarchy?Last time I checked, the succession of ruling over communities were decided trough elections and not trough kinship troughout the developed world and women were free to chose whatever they want to do in their life. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?I think if you want a family, it's better if one parent can stay at home with the kids, rather then letting the government or a third party raise them. Personally, i don't mind though, just have to be consequential. If you want to be a SHAM, it's fine by me. You do the home thing, i do the provision thing. Anything i do at home (except for fixing/assembling stuff and such) is extra and should be treated as such and anything you do provision -wise is an extra and should be treated as such. I may … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadhe can choose the type of job though. If he chooses finances, he can sit on his ass and make buck. Theres no option to skip out on the bodily labor of pregancy and choose a mental task instead. He still uses his body and he still has no choice wether to be reliable for the choice he didn't make, for 18 years. In most cases though he already has a profession and a job, so while in theory, he can chose, he could have done so way before the pregnancy happens. So saying that he has a choice in this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 04:45 PM |
| 1 | Men will call women out for "weaponizing" sex, since they claim it's an "equal value exchange", but will then refuse to pleasure their partner.Yes i have compa | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Men will call women out for "weaponizing" sex, since they claim it's an "equal value exchange", but will then refuse to pleasure their partner.Well, it's hard to take care of his dick while it's inside. As i said, for you guys it's far easier and less awkward rubbing it. Foreplay is a thing though, sure.. and after-play too. Doesn't mean that you have no beef in your own satisfaction as in non verbal communication at the bare minimum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Men will call women out for "weaponizing" sex, since they claim it's an "equal value exchange", but will then refuse to pleasure their partner.Yepp. Using toys for fun is an option too in the 21'st century. But again, its a couple thing, not dependent on just men or women. The man has to put in the incentive, the woman the guidance and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah well.. People lie. Actions speak louder then words. She can say her test is positive then it's negative on the next or that her period is late. I don't mind if a woman shit tests me. You guys need to make sure that we are not capping and that's cool with me as long as it's not a day to day thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 09:08 AM |
| 0 | Men will call women out for "weaponizing" sex, since they claim it's an "equal value exchange", but will then refuse to pleasure their partner.I mean.. I don't know if you've ever banged a girl but it's pretty awkward to do that in most positions. Missionary is the most suitable but it's still pretty uncomfortable for us so it's kinda up to you guys as in almost every positions, it's far easier for you to do it. The main point is that even she didn't know that rubbing her clit is pretty helpful. As long as the guy can hold long enough and knows where the erogeneous zones are there is only so much he can do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 08:13 AM |
| 0 | Men will call women out for "weaponizing" sex, since they claim it's an "equal value exchange", but will then refuse to pleasure their partner.This! on steroids 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:51 AM |
| 5 | Men will call women out for "weaponizing" sex, since they claim it's an "equal value exchange", but will then refuse to pleasure their partner.It's just 8 am in the UK, there is a whole day ahead.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:50 AM |
| 2 | Men will call women out for "weaponizing" sex, since they claim it's an "equal value exchange", but will then refuse to pleasure their partner.This reminds me of a post where a chick blamed her exes for never giving her orgasm, then she gone on to say she realized that she have to "rub her clit" so she can get off, but still kept blaming men for not giving her orgasm.. I mean.. 🤦♂️ Yeah, sure, there are plenty selfish guys and plenty starfishes out there, but sexual satisfaction goes hand in hand with practice. For a man to know what makes a woman tickle, he must be practiced, given that women are "slightly" more complex in this regar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadFair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:38 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI translated the laws for him to make sure he understood. 😁 Hey, at least you keep it real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'm in favor of paper abortions theoretically, but I believe they should protect women as well. I'm all for equity. :) I heard that smart women sometimes pull the "pregnancy scare" card to test the guy's character btw. It makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 07:17 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnd it's very difficult to imagine what politician would be willing to murder their reputation on this legislative hill to work out those kinks. Well, yeah, given all the hardships you mentioned, i think this is the most significant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 06:17 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAnd despite all that, if you're caught with a kit that can determine wether a child is yours or not, you can get fined up to 15k. Euros. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadthey don't want tax money going to raise some fuckboy's spawn if he can be exploited to do it himself. I totally understand that. He should be held accountable for his recklessness just as much as her if recklessness is the case. However the woman in that case still have a choice, while the guy doesn't. Unfortunately the current law also allows for fraud too, against which men have no means to protect themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 04:26 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWell that's arguably true, it's just that the only difference is that women have a choice, while men do not. If she decides to sue his ass for child support, he has to pay or go to jail wether he wanted the kid or not. He doesn't have a choice when it comes to keeping the child either, which is a bit more understandable. Icing on the cake, that he can't protect himself against fraud either. If she poked holes in his condom or lied about contraception, he is reliable regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYepp, and it's also against the law in France for instance. So if she claims, you are the dad, you are kinda screwed there. Besides, paternity fraud often happens trough means when you are actually the biological father, without your knowledge. Like she poked holes in the condom or deliberately lied about taking the pill or even impregnates herself with a used condom of yours. In those cases, you have 0 rights to protect yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAgreed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:57 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMake adults talk this shit out before someone gets pregnant, damn. Yeah, i mean that should be common sense. Yet it just doesn't seem to happen in many cases unfortunately. Even if so, there is no physical limitation that a man's opt-out point has to be after pregnancy. It's a financial opt-out, not a medical/physical one. In theory that's true, but a man is legally obliged to pay child support, if he does not do it, he can be sent to jail. And this is regardless of his initial decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think both parties made a choice to have unprotected sex. Perhaps, or she lied about contraception. Or she used his condom to impregnate herself.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou say this till you become the subject of paternity fraud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:34 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAs for the law, I don't even believe in child support, especially for bastards. Well that would be the point. In case of paternity fraud, like when she lies about contraception or impregnates herself with a used condom, the guy have no legal rights whatsoever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:33 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah yours is a reasonable standpoint IMO. As for choice, i agree it's your choice wether to keep the baby or not. I'm just saying, on the exact same ground of bodily autonomy, he should also have a legally recognized choice, wether to financially support you and the baby (should you decide to keep it against his wishes) or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:29 AM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadOne could argue that men use their bodies to make money too and regardless, he can be held reliable regardless of his choice, for 18 years. I mean, paternity fraud is a thing.. 18 years of physical work for instance is guaranteed to lead to all sorts of injuries, not to mention the opportunity costs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadJust curious, why is marriage changing your decision in regards of the baby? I totally understand the separation part, i don't see how anyone could stay in relationship after this huge disaggreement. Wether he wants the baby and the woman aborts it or the woman wants the baby while he is not, it sucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadLet's assume that you are pro choice, few weeks pregnant and intend to keep the baby. Upon telling your partner the news he turns around ans says, "I am not financially ready for this commitment, please abort." Let's also assume that he can not be pursuaded. What would you say/do? Do you think that the law should allow him to make that choice (based on the same principles of bodily autonomy) or do you think he should be held responsible against his will? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 01:28 AM |
| 0 | It seems like the core of the issue in dating is that men want women who are more attractive than themYeah, there is definitely something to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 10:26 PM |
| 4 | It seems like the core of the issue in dating is that men want women who are more attractive than themI don't think that men "want" women who is more attractive then them. Sure, men would like to have sex with the hottest women available on the Planet, but anyone with some experience in dating, who wants an LTR realizes at some point that personality matters much more then looks. Men are more willing to date down then women though. Just photoshop an ugly woman and an ugly man, create a profile for each and see the difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 10:13 PM |
| 3 | Inspired from another post: what is men’s rights? Wrong answers onlyWell that's what i hear most often lol. "You just want women to be your slaves again and serve you like before the sixties.." Utter nonsense if you ask me 🤣 | /r/MensRights | 01/02/22 10:04 PM |
| 3 | Inspired from another post: what is men’s rights? Wrong answers onlyWanting back the "good ol' times" when women were oppressed. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/22 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Importance of father involvementDo you actually have an argument maybe, so you could enlighten us - prehistoric cavemen -? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Importance of father involvementIt takes two to tango. Always. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 06:01 PM |
| 0 | Importance of father involvementWhat a load of bullcrap.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Importance of father involvementHow many times do we have to ask the same questions till you answer it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Importance of father involvementSource for what? Masculine parenting style is different from feminine parenting style. Isn't this common sense? We all have masculine and feminine traits and for those traits to manifest trough healthy and socially acceptable ways, we need role models. Yes they are, and people of the same gender can have different parenting style. Exactly. One is usually more masculine while the other is usually more feminine, however, the vast majority of people are heterosexual. On avarage, men are more mascul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 04:47 PM |
| 5 | Importance of father involvementMasculinity and feminimity is necessary. Different parenting styles are necessary. Role models are necessary. A girl growing up without a father have to figure out on her own, whay kind of men are worthy. A boy without a father have far less chance to learn discipline or delayed gratification. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 04:19 PM |
| 3 | Importance of father involvementI might be wrong, but as far as I remember most fathers don't even try to fight for their custody, do they? This tells us nothing in regards of wether a father is close to his children or not. Perhaps they simply don't have the means to do so. Financially i mean. Most people simply can not afford the legal fees, not to mention that family court is preceived to be an uphill battle for men (even when they do go to cort, the overwhelming majority is that women get primary or sole custody). Most peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 04:11 PM |
| 1 | do the people here actually observe the things talked about in this sub in real life or is it more about what happens on the internet?According to my own, personal experience the core claims of Red Pill are valid and accurate to a high degree in real life and online as well. Things like men and women have different standards and expectations, that the genders are equal in value and yet different, that life is best - relationship-wise - when men and women are complement to one an other, that hypergamy is a thing and it's not something to be shamed or to be ashamed of, that physical attraction and sufficient resources is a key f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 08:16 AM |
| 2 | most men are misogynists but hide it long enough to get something from womenNone of these is misogyny though. Being an asshole doesn't mean you hate, dislike or have contempt for women. Sure there are a lot of men who fits your description (and there are a lot of women on the flipside), but are they really the majority? Or perhaps that is all you see, given your worlview? Surely if you (not you personally) are brought up surrounded by men like that, you will find yourself repeating the pattern, this is a well established phenomenon in psychology, but it can be helped. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 03:21 PM |
| 2 | most men are misogynists but hide it long enough to get something from womenI find the idea that most men hate women proposterous and even sexist. Talking shit about your exes - even though it's not what gentlemen supposed to do - is not hating women. Cheating - even though it's a betrayal of trust - does not stem from hate, most often. Stamping the mysoginy lable on men nowadays is way too easy and threatens with no repercussions. Virtually anything can be labeled as "hate" from valid criticizm trough inappropriate behavior to actual hate. None of what you said in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 02:36 PM |
| 3 | Is there anything a man can do to protect himself against a false accusation?Not much really. We are near the stage when men actively avoid working with women or engaging with women on the personal level... I heard that men now refuse to mentor women out of precaution... It's sucks.. For both men and women. Pretty obvious that it's not like all women does this, but one is enough to do serious damage to one's life and career. Icing on the cake that those men will certainly be called mysogenists or sexists if not already.. So it's like, you can be falsely accused, lose a l… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/22 02:18 PM |
| 3 | "Dating apps don't bring out the worst in people, only men."Well apparently it's the app-s fault for not vetting men... I wonder where is this common theme comes from that everything should be "ready to eat".. Perhaps, the manosphre teaches men to take responsibility (grow up) and don't wait for the world to cater to us. The current zeitgeist (whatever you call it..) teaches women to blame other things and people (most commonly men) for their hardships. Articles like this are the most devastating to female agency. The claim is that they are present to he… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | How many people here have had their heart broken?It actually seems funny (or entertaining rather) with all the pity, if you can distance yourself. No need to be a sociopath for that (i hope).. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 04:28 AM |
| 4 | How many people here have had their heart broken?Except they do get mad. If they leave you when you are down cause they "want to live their life", then you shoot up, realizing she held you back all along. And when you're up she is trying to come back with all the charm she can squeeze out of herself. The smile on your face when you tell them to kindly fuck off... The surprise on their face when they realize that that ship has sailed and they missed out.. Priceless. Ask me how i know. That said, blaming a whole gender is some dumb fuckery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 01:02 AM |
| 3 | For those into BDSM yet you are here, what’s your story?I am red pilled, married and i love mild bdsm since i am about 18-19, long before i have ever had any idea what the pill stuff is.. I might be able to risk that the "pill stuff" didn't even exist back then. I think sexual kinks are a separate from political views, but it might have something to do with dominance, submissiveness and hierarchies outside of the house. I think, when it comes to women, there is an inverse correlation with how they act in life, but it's just my experience on a small s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo, i am talking about my age here. My best years were between 25 - 30. Then I've got married before i "killed the beta" entirely, so I've got sucked right back in lol. I have no doubt though, if i were to put myself back in the game now i could score better then ever. Given that i lose my daddy bod first. 😂 It all depends on who you are and not on who they are IMO. Who they are matters only if you are looking for commitment. The monk mode is not for me. It never was.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 10:25 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWell i don't know much about your life so i can't tell. Thing is, i fell in love with someone in my early 30-s and fell back into beta mode, so the whole relationship went astray. 3-4 years into my marriage i started to work myself back into the headspace i have previously been and things started to improve again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 08:20 PM |
| 1 | If TRP is true, then there is no point to dating IF you're looking for love. (It may be worth it in other ways, i.e sex)I am not trying to defend RP. You are more then welcome to attack/criticize it, just be precise. You say things like: as a true beta, i.e, vulnerable and neurotic, dating is not worth it because nobody will love you. But this is nothing to do with RP. Nobody can suffer people high on neuroticism (as per "big five") nor overly vulnerable. Wether they are men or women, is not relevant. "True betas" are not necessarily high on these traits. "Beta" in RP in regards of relationships meant to describe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCheers will do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAbout 25 onwards. No i mean more success with women in general, atteaction-wise. What exactly are you disagreeing with though if you don't mind me asking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI wasn't remotely like that in my early 20s. Once i converged to it i started to be incomparably more successful both in life and with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI am. I aim to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI don't think it doesn't. I think the kind of men how Yip Man was pictured in those movies turn women on big time. He is a badass with a very strict moral code, he is capable of brutal violence but he is in full control of his own emotional nature and his violence is defensive. He is stoic but not unavailable. He would die for his family without a second tought but he has a mission and a purpose (frame) and he is focused... He is a man from a ritch family who lost everything during the war with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYeah, i aggree. I think this is the kind of masculinity men should strive to achieve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 06:19 PM |
| 2 | If TRP is true, then there is no point to dating IF you're looking for love. (It may be worth it in other ways, i.e sex)This will be a very difficult CMV because I am asking for you to challenge core trp concepts, but I overall believe it will be a good discussion. No, you are asking us to challenge your perception of the core RP concepts, without ever saying it out loud of what those concepts might be. Yo do make some hints, like "branch-swing". But it is not a core concept, it comes from the notion of hypergamy which essentially means that women tend to date up. This is often misrepresented as women ONLY date u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 06:13 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadJust curious.. Have you guys ever seen the movie series Ip Man? It's about the founder of the Wing Tsun -style Karate. I think it has some edifications about what healthy masculinity and stoicism may look like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 05:51 PM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadMale and female parenting styles differ in general. Kids need role models to relate to and ideally those models are the birth parents. If one is missing, kids will have hard time to find a suitable one. Also ideally you selected a "good man" to be a father, hence the role model is pre selected. If the kid have to find one for himself/herself there is no guarantee that they will find someone you would approve of or someone with good qualities. Generally, kids in single parent households face far … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathread👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI mean.. Yes it's useful to know but i think it's fair to say that it's part of your body, so it should be obvious for you first, before it is for us. Guys should show interest in what gets you off but it's a trial and error learning process that takes time so LTR-s are better off from this standpoint. Sexual satisfaction from one night stands tend to be lower. Plus women are different in regards of erogenous zones and guys need experience to quickly find out where yours are if you do not tell t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 04:54 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWell i think you shouldn't really be doing anything with those men IMO. If they can't get you there on their own, and won't let you do some "creative problem solving" then f* off.. I bought one for my wife. Sooner or later it gets boring for everyone and it needs to be spiced up. The answer is just to find a person your comfortable with and who is comfortable with you and cares about your pleasure Aggree 100%. Also I'd just say it has to be reciprocal as I'm sure you know. There are many men and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadHere is a tip for you just in case if you are unaware. https://www.lovehoney.co.uk/sex-toys/vibrators/clitoral-suction-vibrators/p/lovehoney-x-romp-switch-clitoral-suction-stimulator/a44869g81901.html Problems can be solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCouples are shying away from communication is the problem i think.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:53 PM |
| 5 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWhat holds you back from "rubbing your clit" during intercourse i wonder.. Sure, if a guy can only hold for two minutes that's an issue, but the solution is to fuck him on the daily or let him shoot in the dirt, give it a few minutes rest then get on with the stuff for real. It takes much longer when the nutsack is dry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:52 PM |
| 9 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo i mean she never had orgasm till she found out that she have to rub her clit, but somehow she still blames the guys for not giving her orgasm.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:42 PM |
| 8 | Daily Community Chat Megathread"Not one of them ever cared to try" Vs. "I have to rub my clit".. Self explanatory... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadConfirmed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Almost every complaint about women here men also do, or there's a "male equivalent."Statistics like... What exactly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Almost every complaint about women here men also do, or there's a "male equivalent."I think it's rather obvious that men are going to talk from their own perspective and women are going to talk from their own perspective. There are a plathora of things that have male and female equivalents but appears differently for men and women. Both men and women make such claims and as others pointed out you can easily change the pronouns and the "he" to "she" in your OP-s title and it would still be just as applicable. Look: Almost every complaint about men here women also do, or there's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/22 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Violence and crimes against women are NOT done against them because they're women or to oppress women. Feminist myth debunkedGreat job OP! I've also experienced this talking with some feminists. They just don't seem to be able to let go of the idea that crimes committed by men against women are a sexist hate crimes. They are using this buzzword: "femicide" and use general crime statistics to support the idea, which is always false. The number of people targeting women because they hate women is miniscule, I'd argue that the number of women targeting men because they hate men are about the same in proportions if not mo… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itNo problem. I am waiting for yours whenever you can. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/22 03:42 AM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itWell all right. There really is no point going back and forth about our anecdotal experience. We see the world from different perspectives and we lived trough different experiences. I am willing to settle this debate on the ground that most feminists are not part of the zeitgeist. I simply can't let go of the idea though that those with the most influence and the louder voice within the community are - in a nutshell - female supremacists, without substantial evidence to the contrary, since i can… | /r/MensRights | 29/01/22 03:36 AM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itOk look, i need to say it out loud one more time, when i talk about these issues i do so on the social level unless i specifically say it's individual. So when i say "talk about gender issues" i talk about social media (as in how facebook or Twitter or even Wikipedia filters trough content) and media (ie. movies, talk shows, commercials). On the top of my head, i can mention one famous person who is part of the mainstream and not "excommunicated", who goes against this zeitgeist some times, that… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itWe do disagree because we disagree about the existence of systemic sexism today, but I think we've had a spirited discussion and are ending things in a good place. Well, as i said earlier, i just don't see systemic sexism (perhaps the question really is how do we define "systemic"). I see sexism, prejudice and bias in various cases towards both men and women and i am willing to admit that women may suffer more from this. What i am up against is the current zeitgeist, according to which tgere is … | /r/MensRights | 28/01/22 08:45 PM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itI was taking issue with something you're still doing, which is assuming that I don't know as much about you on the nature vs nurture argument, or that because I didn't mention the nature half, I don't believe in it. Ma'am with all do respect, i am not the one making assumptions here, and this time my wording was clear too. I didn't say "you know nothing about nature", i said "you didn't mention it". Objectively, there was nothing, not a single word about nature in your response. What would you h… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/22 06:30 PM |
| 1 | UK: Grieving woman, 22, is told she can't use her dead fiance's frozen sperm for IVF because he didn't give permission before dying from pneumoniaAgain, HIS decision, HIS sperm. There's nothing i disaggree with here. we cant be sure if he didnt, i.e. retract his consent, or maybe he wanted kids, but not with her after all? No, WE can't be sure. She claims though that they started the IVF treatment which was pushed back due to covid. We can assume of course that she is lying for some shady reasons. Or we can assume, she isn't. If they did however she must have evidence for that. A simple claim isn't enough. "Can she legally do that though?… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/22 04:39 PM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itYou've chosen to respond by telling me I'm not right when I am You got me wrong. I could have worded my sentence better but i didn't mean to correct you. I meant to say i partly agree with wat you say, but i think it's not the entire truth. (I think it's not an evil thing to partially disagree right?) I would like to refer back to my third sentence in that answer and ask you to reconsider what i said in context. Well, given that you ever read this response. I didn't make assumptions about what y… | /r/MensRights | 28/01/22 07:33 AM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itI think it's a fair argument that many men are overrepresented in higher paying degree subjects (with exceptions) because they are usually socialized as boys to have a greater interest in those careers, and often get a headstart with toys tailored towards learning helpful career skills. It is a fair argument. Doesn't mean it's entirely true though. We are basically down to the "nature vs nurture" at this point. Yes, socialization do have an effect on kids, but let me ask you this. Have you ever … | /r/MensRights | 28/01/22 04:31 AM |
| 1 | UK: Grieving woman, 22, is told she can't use her dead fiance's frozen sperm for IVF because he didn't give permission before dying from pneumoniaNot her genes, not her decision. Why did they froze his sperm? According to the article they started the procedure but it was postponed duecto covid. Sounds like she is pushing for claim to his assets/money through "family ties" type of a way. Can she legally do that though? Do we know that he has got anything to claim? They were a young couple. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/22 01:52 AM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itBy this point, you are already talking about a patriarchal social structure that was oppressing women. I am talking about a patriarchical society, yes. And if you wish to use the word "oppression", fair enogh. Butvif it was oppression, it was class related oppression and not sex related oppression. The vast majority of men and women in this cotext were both oppressed. If anything a fair woman always had a chance to escape poverty by marrying up. A man born in poverty died in poverty if not for h… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 10:32 PM |
| 3 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itThose lands were conquered by men while women cooked their meals, made their clothes, and cleaned the homes they built on that land, which we continue to do today. That's not the point. The point is that land owners had the mandatory responsibility to answer the ruler's call for war, be it defensive or offensive. Lands and titles were in fact most often awarded to men as a reward for their loyalty and military achievements. Men fought wars, (in fact more often called into it by a Queen then a Ki… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 06:43 PM |
| 4 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itI've taken the time to read your so-called debunkings, and counter that you're not understanding the discrimination at work when it comes to the gender pay gap. Well i haven't cited any "so called debunkings" as of yet, but will do further down. 99% of your document is irrelevant to our conversation, it talks about the suppsed effects of the gap, not about the reasons. The only thing relevant to our conversation is this paragraph here: "Despite these vast changes, women’s earnings typically stil… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 05:27 PM |
| 4 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itOne form of discrimination today would be the gender pay gap. How many times do we have to debunk that myth till people understand that the majority of the pay gap is not due to discrimination? | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 04:50 PM |
| 1 | If it's acceptable for women to make men wait for sex, it's acceptable for men to pretend to want a relationshipOkay I can see the logic in that. But would you agree that if she doesn’t tell you up front that she won’t sleep with you until the nth date, but secretly knows this (and isn’t expecting commitment), that is manipulative? I mean it may be manipulative, yes, but is it wrong? I mean on one hand we say we do not like women with high n-count on the other, we want them to sit on our dick on the first to second date? If she does that, how do you know that she didn't do it with all her previous dates? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Am I supposed to assume every nice thing a guy does for me is to get in my pants? It feels wrongFair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 04:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Am I supposed to assume every nice thing a guy does for me is to get in my pants? It feels wrongWell in all honesty, does it matter? I mean I'm not sure if by "made out" you mean you're in relationship with him or it was a one time occasion.. If the latter then maybe he tought if you gave a chance for his cousin you may give a chance to him.. I don't say that you should have given a chance to him (totally up to tou obviously), i am just curious why you did not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Am I supposed to assume every nice thing a guy does for me is to get in my pants? It feels wrongGot it. If you weren't though would you consider this guy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 02:57 PM |
| 7 | The way to raise men's right and awareness is not competing against women's and vise versa.I understand what you say and i wouldn't deny the existence of it, though the title of the post you linked is "Only girls will understand this". I mean.. What do we expect? Of course "boys" will chip in with their stories to disprove the title... The other thing.. Feminism seems to be entangled with womenhood today. You guya need to understand that feminism is not womenhood. "Crapping" on feminism is not crapping on women. In fact, the vast majority of people do not call themselves feminist, eve… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 08:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Am I supposed to assume every nice thing a guy does for me is to get in my pants? It feels wrongAm I supposed to assume every nice thing a guy does for me is to get in my pants? No. But it doesn't mean they do not want to have a relationship with you. My question to you would be, why didn't you give him a chance? Aren't you girls attracted to nice guys? He's shy, he is not dominant, not the "alpha male". He didn't have the balls to ask you oit face to face. I'm pretty sure he would put you on the pedestal and treat you like a queen, you only have to ask and you will have it.. What is wrong… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 07:03 AM |
| 2 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itPretty much. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 06:45 AM |
| 4 | Another anti-male commercial - VROOM, where a woman walks into a dealership and the male salespeople won't talk to her, so she pulls out a dummy of her husband and they talk to her. I'm so tired of this anti-male stuff in the media.Thank you kindly. I thought, when it's a recent change on YouTube that you can't see the number of dislikes given for the video, and there wasn't ever an option to like or dislike a comment, it's fairly obvious that i am talking about the dislikes in regards of the video and not the comments. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 05:19 AM |
| 1 | If it's acceptable for women to make men wait for sex, it's acceptable for men to pretend to want a relationshipstringing a woman along and pretending to be interested in a relationship with the intention of only using her for sex. This is the same kind of manipulation but with the roles reversed. Depends, if she says she doesn't want sex before some sort of commitment she only lies if she doesn't want to have sex with you at all, yet lets you take her out on x number of dates and pay all the bills. In this case, it's a deliberate lie and it's the same, as you say. Most women though do want to have sex at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 01:34 AM |
| 3 | UK: Grieving woman, 22, is told she can't use her dead fiance's frozen sperm for IVF because he didn't give permission before dying from pneumoniaSure, i agree, but this wasn't the reason why they denied her to use his sperm. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 01:11 AM |
| 5 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itLike, when Christina debunks the wage gap myth, or when Cassie makes the documentary "The Red Pill" or when Erin Pizzey claims that the abuse in abusive relationships is often reciprocal and women have work to do in these cases, just as much as men. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 01:10 AM |
| 6 | Another anti-male commercial - VROOM, where a woman walks into a dealership and the male salespeople won't talk to her, so she pulls out a dummy of her husband and they talk to her. I'm so tired of this anti-male stuff in the media.The ad was certainly exaggerated….that’s kind of what’s done in ads. Yes it was an exaggeration based on sexist stereotypes. That's exactly the problem. So you want to tell me that the salesman would have turned to dad and asked him to top up the budget for his little one, if my sister was a man? I doubt that sincerely. Certainly. If i was the salesperson I'd sure try. I'd try even if a mom walked in with her son. Or if a husband walks in with her wife. Perhaps even if a wife walks in with her h… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 01:07 AM |
| 6 | Another anti-male commercial - VROOM, where a woman walks into a dealership and the male salespeople won't talk to her, so she pulls out a dummy of her husband and they talk to her. I'm so tired of this anti-male stuff in the media.they tried to rip me off. Because you are a woman? Do you want me to tell you how many times someone tried to rip me (a man) off? It wasn’t the „speaking“ to our dad, it was the having a budget and then trying to get him to throw in several thousands, even so my sister said explicitly how much she wanted to spent (which was in no way a marginal sum) Dude, there's nothing sexist here. This is normal "salesperson" attitude. They try to buy stuff for the cheapest money possible then sell it at the … | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 12:28 AM |
| 14 | Another anti-male commercial - VROOM, where a woman walks into a dealership and the male salespeople won't talk to her, so she pulls out a dummy of her husband and they talk to her. I'm so tired of this anti-male stuff in the media.One of the commenters under the video: "Oh this is so true, it happened to me in 1979....". 😱 Shame you can't see the number of dislikes on YouTube any more. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 12:18 AM |
| 4 | UK: Grieving woman, 22, is told she can't use her dead fiance's frozen sperm for IVF because he didn't give permission before dying from pneumoniaI mean. Yeah. It's a good thing that permission is required so paternity fraud or hooking up someone on child support unjustly can be avoided, but come on.. Poor chump checked out already. She, wanting to use his material, when she could just go and choose anyone else is a respect to his memory and doesn't harm anyone in any way. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/22 12:08 AM |
| 3 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itDo you agree with feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers or Cassie Jaye (well, she doesn't call herself a feminist any longer..) or Erin Pizzey? | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 11:59 PM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itThe problem is that their claims usually do have some element of truth, so it's really hard to debunk them (as it always seem like hamstring, while they put you on the defense) and they resonate with a lot of people. There certainly is a wage gap, but their explanation of why it is present and what it is causing is nonsensical, but it resonates with everyone who is looking for an excuse to blame their shitty life (resulted from poor choices) on someone else. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 11:47 PM |
| 1 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itWell it's a fair point that women wanted to vote or own property/bank account, but as you say, the problem is that they always talk like this was given to men, on the basis of our gender, where the fact is that rights and privileges always came with responsibilities. And some responsibilities were recognized earlier then others. Not all men had voting rights either. Tax payers and land owners could vote only. It is true that women generally didn’t own land, but this wasn't because they were trea… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 11:42 PM |
| 4 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itName me one institutional discrimination women have today. That's the point. There is none. That's why they have to make stuff up to justify their sheer existence and to aquire government funding. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 09:54 PM |
| 2 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itWe do not need equality. We need equal rights and opportunities tackled with equal responsibilities. The more responsibilities you take the more rights you shall have. You can't decouple rights from responsibilities, else the society will fall apart. People generally want to dump their trash on others. It's always easier yet far less liberating then taking accountability. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 09:48 PM |
| -5 | We don't need feminism, and we don't need the male version of itWhat's the male version of feminism? Incels. Not 100%, but there are a lot of overlaps in their thinking processes. Feminism is a philosophy that seeks to have true the Discrimination of the other If only this was true. Even if it was in the beginning. Once discrimination have been ceased, so should have the "philosophy". Or at best, the remainders of it should have shifted their focus to maintain the status and raise awareness against individual cases, but instead they are now all for (f)empowe… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 09:41 PM |
| 3 | CMV: I think women are hypocrites when it comes to patriarchyPatriarchy is an ill defined (rather used out of context) buzzword, just like toxic masculinity. It supposed to mean a system in which men hold the power and women are excluded from it. Problem is though, women are not excluded from power, only such positions require certain sacrifices and must be earned, not given based on what's between someone's thighs. Women shown time and time again that if they compete, sacrifice and fight for these positions like men do, they are just as likely as men to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 08:17 AM |
| 1 | CMV: I believe SOME redpill claims are negatively impacting the mental/emotional well-being of most people today.What are these Red Pill claims (with the negative impact) you talk about? I struggle to see any mentioned in your OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 07:48 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?I laughed so loud the dog is still staring at me. Even though I shouldn't be laughing at all because it's true. Yeah i tought it's kinda funny too. How could that be possible? I can understand a woman buying into the current "wokeness" of portraying average size women as being able to knock a man down with a right hook, but that's mainly because the average woman's actual experience of real physical strength from men is limited. Conversely, I can't believe there are many men who haven't figured … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 05:11 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Okay then to answer your point of married men, they make more not because getting married means that you will get paid more, but because of promotions due to employer and economic discrimination and bias. Sorry i didn't find relevant information in the blog post you cited in regards of promotions, you are welcome to quote. I can imagine that it happens in some cases as married people generally seen as more reliable. But you need to ask yourself this: wheb we talkimg about avarage people, do we t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 09:23 PM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Because in your post you copied and pasted uk articles about men working more hours No, i cited OECD stats first, then UK data. We can discuss both. Similar cultures provide similar statistics Here is data about working hours distribution in the OECD countries: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.oecd.org/els/family/LMF-2-2-Distribution-working-hours-couple-households.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwinr6fzw8z1AhVWPcAKHZMBD9wQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1IOWukdJUXZ8yG6nBI2H6M The general r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:59 PM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?The men you claim are being pathologized do not practise widespread empathy themselves; why do they need so much of ours to the extent that we cannot discuss what our interests are so as not to scare a woman who has never dated before? I was abused too, given, not physically because i established early on, if she lays a hand on me, i might break it (i wouldn't but she don't have to know that). This however doesn't change the fact that i did put up with her emotional and financial abuse for years… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:44 PM |
| 2 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?My pleasure, i give what i get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 09:15 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?I don't wanna be "that person" but could you show me some of the stats you've found? Nothing wrong with that. Beyond what's cited in the OP, here's the OECD data: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.oecd.org/els/family/LMF-2-2-Distribution-working-hours-couple-households.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwinr6fzw8z1AhVWPcAKHZMBD9wQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1IOWukdJUXZ8yG6nBI2H6M I don't think anyone who is abused is responsible for it. I respectfully disagree. Please read the research cite… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 09:09 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?https://www.hepi.ac.uk/2021/08/23/systemic-bias-against-boys-unexplained-differences-in-teacher-assessed-grades-between-boys-and-girls-in-this-years-a-level-results/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 08:52 AM |
| 0 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Your point on childrearing doesn't take into account that most women work and still do the majority of domestic labor. They aren't all stay at home moms. It does. Most women do not work nearly as much as men do when kids, younger then 4 years are involved. Many still don't take on a full time role when there is at least one child who is under 12. This is what all statistics show on the topic. Men work more hours outside of the household, women work more hours inside the household, at the end of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 08:44 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?According to their count, across 2018 and 2019, a total of 273 women died by homicide either while pregnant or within a year of the end of their pregnancy. In 2019, there was about 3.7 million births in the States. This means, the number of pregnant women died by homicide is less then 0.0001% of all pregnant women. Based on the above, it's extremely unlikely (less then 1 in 13.000) that a woman is killed during or within one year of her pregnancy, even though just one homicide is one too many. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 08:20 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?I'm sorry, but i am not entirely sure i understand what you mean here. Yes it seems obvious that men are stronger but in this day and age some women (not all!) are so entitled and so "empowered" that they genuinely think they can take down a man. According to a recent YouGov survey, 7% of the female (and 8% of the male) respondents claimed that they could beat a lion with bare hands. If you say that women initiate violence/abuse as an expression of anger and not with the intent of harm, i can ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Perhaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:39 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Or stubborn 🤣 I'll be 36 this year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:27 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Well, you do you. Perhaps at some point, i will give up too. I'm not quite there yet, also, i really do hope that someone proves me wrong eventually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:24 AM |
| 3 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?So what's the excuse for men being most likely to both cheat on and murder a woman when she's pregnant? Excuse? Who is talking about "excuse"? Also, i guess a woman can not kill a pregnant man for fairly obvious reasons. All jokes aside, my experience is that men don't want women to talk about what their interests and risk factors are, they will do anything to silence them when they're talking about their interests, they perceive it as a threat when women prioritize their own interests and menta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:22 AM |
| 0 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Men have a chance to "enjoy the decline" with "good positioning", if their parents are able to counteract the social indoctrination, and for that, people must be at least aware of this all. I am not so sure about women. I think, at the end of the decline, women will be at net loss, more so then men, and this isn't good news for anyone who has a daughter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:12 AM |
| 0 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?3 out of a 100 is apparently a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 03:00 AM |
| 2 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?Do you really care about this? Everyone should do. Especially parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 02:58 AM |
| 1 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?You are right. As mentioned in the OP, men cause damage more frequently. It is due to sheer physical strength. But the fact remains, women do less harm not due to the lack of trying but due to the lack of force. When they use weapons, they are in fact more likely to cause severe injuries then men https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34913166/ (the study is behind a paywall but the abstract is self explanatory). Men - being stronger - are also better suited for self defense, especially against weaker … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 02:56 AM |
| 3 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?I think you - as an adult woman - can make a fairly accurate distinction between said groups and individuals. What i think the issue might be is that these problems offen pictured in broady generalized terms. Imagine that you are a teenage boy or girl, told that "men are bad" by people who you respect/love/admire, and when there's talk about men in the media, it is usually done in negative context. What do you think this does to a developing mind? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 01:03 AM |
| 3 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?See edit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 11:43 PM |
| 3 | How constantly criticizing men effects dating and relationships?I will put all sources in the OP at some point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | How many of you men have cheated on a significant other? (All honest answers, I won’t be judging)I mean. You work in a strip club.. Not that i hold this against you, it's just that men usually do not represent the "avarage married chump" there. Of course you will find far more men there who is openly willing to cheat, then in a church for instance. I personally have never cheated. Nor do i intend to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 05:20 PM |
| 1 | Third wave feminism is degeneracy at its finestComplaining about radical/third wawe feminism is not complaining about feminism. The OP was specific! There is a reason why most people do not call themselves feministis while they do beleive in equality of rights and opportunities. Radical feminism is not feminism. Similarly, shaming those radical feminists mentioned in the OP for their obvious hypocrisy is not shaming women! You are making strawman arguments here. | /r/MensRights | 22/01/22 03:46 PM |
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| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadNo money, no honey. Never have been different. It was always like that: the higher the wealth/status, the more "honey". And why should this bee different i wonder. Kids need to be taken care of and they should be provided with decent living conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 01:53 PM |
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| 6 | Will marriage die out entirely once Woman start to out earn men?They clearly arent here on reddit... They are. I am one of them. Though reddit is not a dating site. Why have I never met those 'most' men? That's a question you need to ask to yourself. I can't tell you, all i can say is you just met one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 12:45 PM |
| 2 | Just because most men are chubby, doesn't mean chubby is now an average 5 outta 10 guyAs a matter of fact, in most developed countries, you will find that men are more likely to be overweight, but when it comes to obesity or extreme obesity, women are miles ahead. The avarage guy is chubby and the avarage gal is chubby. The distorted view comes from the fact that an avarage woman gets incomparably more attention from above avarage men on OLD, then an avg man from above avg women. Of course, the solution to this is not sulking but to get fit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 12:41 PM |
| 3 | Just because most men are chubby, doesn't mean chubby is now an average 5 outta 10 guyA clear contradiction achieved within five words.. This should be put in the book of Guinness World Records. 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Just because most men are chubby, doesn't mean chubby is now an average 5 outta 10 guyThe problem is that the non-chubby non-fit men think that this makes them more attractive because at least they're skinny. Well, this is true in fact. What seems to matter most in body-build department is the hip to shoulders ratio. Narrow hip with wide shoulders are attractive, the rest is extra. I used to be all around the spectrum. When i was skinny, i had far more attention (like random women on the street smiled at me) then when i was chubby (i got almost no attention at all), and when i wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 12:27 PM |
| 9 | Will marriage die out entirely once Woman start to out earn men?Perhaps. It's also culturally reinforced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 12:12 PM |
| 2 | Just because most men are chubby, doesn't mean chubby is now an average 5 outta 10 guyWomen rank men based on the level of attention they can get from other men. As long as Avarage Bessy is DM-d by Ripped Jack on the hourly/daily basis, she won't give a damn about Avarage Joe, because she will think that she is above avarage, while perhaps never considering that Avarage Joe is more likely looking for commitment, while Ripped Jack is more likely to look for a quickie (with her at least). Any woman can have a distorted view of her own status on OLD. Even a 2/10 gets far more attent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 12:09 PM |
| 7 | Will marriage die out entirely once Woman start to out earn men?By insane i meant "out of touch with reality". I don't think they calculate anything. They genuinely believe what they say, without thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 11:58 AM |
| 10 | Will marriage die out entirely once Woman start to out earn men?It's insane.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 11:53 AM |
| 4 | Will marriage die out entirely once Woman start to out earn men?Young, single and childless women out earn men in the same category already. This was known like a decade ago. People are whining about this nonsense wage gap since forever, not even noticing that something like 80% of the consumer decisions are driven by women. Women are also more likely to have a college degree then men, and this trend is predicted to increase in the future. If hypergamy is a thing, we will experience further decline in the number of marriages and committed relationships. In t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 11:31 AM |
| 20 | Will marriage die out entirely once Woman start to out earn men?Men find most women hot or at least dateable.. Most men age out of thinking about looks-only by the time we are ready for commitment. Like, the only expectation lookwise is not to be a landwhale and have a somewhat cute face.. An avarage woman will do for an avarage man. Even below avarage if she is otherwise nice. Will an avarage man do for an avarage woman though? It's not men who find 80% of women unattractive on OLD now is it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/22 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?I don't know. I used cheating with quotation marks in the title to indicate that i am not using it in it literal sense, then further elaborated in the OP. I didn't share my personal views, didn't pass judgement, i asked questions because i am curious to what others think and to "provoke" tought. I didn't want to say anything in particular within the context of my OP. I kept trying to tell you, that it's about the expectations and objectivity, not about wether cheating in it's literal sense is ri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Of course i aggree, i aggreed in the OP, in the first sentence. I don't like social standards enforced on people as a blank slate, because it leads to all sorts of problems. Some standards are good, some are questionable and some are bad/outdated. I think people should at least question those standards before acting on them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?That is outside of the scope or your op, isn’t it? It's not. If there's objectively nothing wrong with having multiple sex partners while in a relationship then there is no reason to propagate monogamy as the "gold standard" and act like people are or should be monogamous by default. On the individual (subjective) level, people shold do and expect whatever they wish. All i am sying is that it would be beneficial if we would just sit down and think this thing trough with ourselves. Contemplate on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 04:50 PM |
| 1 | I feel like misandry is starting to become a coping mechanism for troubled women.....Wait.. She was "brainwashed by Christianity" but resenting men? Does that make sense? | /r/MensRights | 21/01/22 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Alright, but that doesn't prove cheating is an ok thing to do. All it proves is that several people choose to be lax in their ethics. Of course it doesn't. Flat out, full on, literal cheating is not ok and nothing justifies lies in this regard (this will not hold back anyone though unfortunately). So humans cease to care about all higher meaning in survival situations? No, human beings are still capable of higher thought than animals no matter the setting. Yes, we are capable of "higher tought" … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 01:28 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Is it true or false? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societyMe neither, but it worth a try. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?I used the word "might" because risks can be mitigated, compared to 500 years ago for instance when we had no defense whatsoever against STD-s. In those times, the question wasn't "if" but rather "when". Today the question is "if". "When"only applies if the guy/gal is reckless, or in the negligible minority of cases, when despite all efforts of protection, the shit sid hit the fan. There are objective risks but these risks might or might not lead to trouble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?There might be things that are objectively wrong with having multiple sex partners, the risks of STD or unwanted pregnancy for instance. There are things that are objectively wrong with cheating, the lie and the loss of trust due to it for instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?We already established that there ARE things objectively wrong with cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Well. Thank you for answering the initial question. So there IS something that might be objectively wrong with having multiple sex partners, it increases the risk of contracting STD-s. True. There is also a number of risks involved with getting out of bed, also with staying in bed for a prolonged period of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societybecause men did less labor This is reframimg the exact same claim. Women do more = men do less. Why do women do more = why do men do less. I didn’t think I needed to repeat myself You didn't repeat yourself. You claimed that women are "forced" to do more chores. On the same ground i will claim that men are forced to do more work outside of the house. The study you cited do not support your claim (women are forced). It establishes, that women do more chores and childraring which is a fact, but it… | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 06:38 PM |
| 3 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societyWhat specifically are you confused about? I am not confused, you seemed to be though. I asked you a simple question that took you 3 responses to answer. Here is what you said: they are forced to do more because their male counterparts do not do an even amount of work so women are expected to make up for their partners lack of action. Now i am going to ask you to substanciate your claim. Study citations welcome at this stage. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 05:58 PM |
| 4 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societyNo, you are still not answering the question. Why do women do more household chores and childraring? I didn't ask how they do it. I asked you why they do it. You do understand the meaning of "why", right? There are multiple studies showing this Once you actually answered the question, you are welcome to cite them. | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?No. Just because something might be difficult for some people doesn't mean it's impossible and/or unreasonable. I never stated that it's impossible. There are people who do not even feel the need to go around and have sex with others simultaneously. Surprise, I am one of those. The fact that many people are promising exclusivity, and fail to follow up (not just some, plenty, some studies show that about 60(women) - 68%(men) have cheated at least once) shows that sexual exclusivity (ie. monogamy)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 05:29 PM |
| 5 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societyYou repeated your claim, didn't answer the question. Why do women do more household chores and childraring? | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?we all are the way we are because of a combo of natural instincts and socialization. Where insecurity comes from if not natural instincts? Believing that exclusivity is the way to go because this is how we were raised is socialization. It seems to me that we are not really talking about different things. And the expectation is largely exclusive because that’s where most people on earth most commonly feel connected to their partners and safe in their families. Right, if your partner goes around l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Why women being more college educated than men is troubling for societyIt’s 2022, there should be equal labor distribution in the household between spouses. Why do you think there isn't? | /r/MensRights | 20/01/22 03:58 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Great, betrayal is wrong. As i said in the first sentence of my OP. No disagreement there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?That still is an insufficient answer. Why do they prefer to expect exclusivity? I think if most people were honest, there would be only two possible answers. Either non exclusivity makes them feel insecure or they just expect it because that's the norm they grew up with and there's nothing else beyond that. I'd bet, the majority is in the first group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 04:25 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Right, we aggree on that part. The question remains, if there's nothing wrong with having multiple sex partners while you are in a committed relationship (given that you are honest about it) and given that monogamy and non monogamy are both part of human nature, why do most people still expect exclusivity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Ok... So is the lying part or is the having sex with others part that makes someone a shitty person? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?We aggree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:40 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?You claim humans aren't naturally monogamous, False. I claim that both monogamy and non monogamy is part of human nature. you cite the fact that many people decide to be scumbags and cheat as "proof" Is it not a proof? you imply that fidelity isn't a perfectly reasonable expectation to have by claiming it's "possessive" and to "treat people as property", etc. I recall asking questions, not making statements. I asked why do we have such expectations almost by default (despite the facts above), no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:39 AM |
| 2 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?If you're going to be doing anything that you already know the other person might not like, it's your responsibility to divulge that. We have no disaggreement there. Again, the question is not that flatout, literal cheating is wrong or not. Cheating is wrong because its a lie by definition. Cheating is wrong because it is betrayal of trust. The question is why do we expect exclusivity by default (most of us at least) despite the fact that cheating is a common phenomenon? Despite that having mult… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?You are making things personal, and you clearly do not understand the question. Good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Where do i state that "the expectation of loyalty isn't realistic"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Yes, the problem is that you promised to be exclusive and failed to follow up hence you betrayed his/her trust. So what's the problem really, that you betrayed their trust or that you had sex with someone else? In other words, if you promise to do X, but you do Y instead, what's the real deal? That you did Y or that you didn't do X? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 10:29 PM |
| 2 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Right, but i used quotation marks on cheating because i didn't use it in the literal sense. The actual question was, why do we expect sexual exclusivity, when sexual non exclusivity is almost as "normal" to people as exclusivity? Why do we expect it almost by default if there's nothing objectively wrong with having multiple sexual partners? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?How do i rationalize cheating? What was my first sentence? Why did i put cheating in quotation marks in the title? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 10:14 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Sure and expectations are subjective. If there's objectively nothing wrong with having multiple sex partners while you are in a committed relationship, why expect exclusivity, when you know that there is a good chance that you will be disappointed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?That's a "slightly" different scenario. It's objectively because you caused the death of someone. You can cheat without ever being discovered, and you can be up front about being non exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?You said it's betrayal of trust, but if I ask you, why is betrayal of trust wrong? Ultimately, you'll justify it with it being harmful to someone, which brings us back to square one. Betrayal of trust is morally wrong because it's harmful, but also objectivly wrong. Trust is the fundation of all relationships from business partnership to love life. You can't build relationship with anyone if your word worth next to none. If you promise to deliver you must do all you can to deliver or else you wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 10:03 PM |
| 2 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?if they were cheating and keeping it a secret, would there have been nothing wrong with that? If you would be dead, how would you feel about it? If you are unaware, you have no bad feelings right? Having multiple sexual partners is one thing, lying about it is an other, having been discovered is yet an other. I think full on cheating is morally wrong, because deception is not acceptable in society. If you can avoid lying and deception, i don't think there's anything objectively wrong with "fucki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Then you know that the question is not about literal, flat out, full on cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 07:48 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Did you read the OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?There are "safe" ways to play with fire, that doesn't change the fact that you are playing with fire. Right, but is it objectively wrong to "play with fire"? If you'd be bothered so much about risks, you'd be better off staying in your bed. If someone else is at risk of getting burned you have to give them the option to walk away. And by playing it safe, and being honest, this is what you do, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Why do you people have to make everything so damn personal though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 07:20 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?To water it down for you.. any expectation I have in my relationship, is my expectation. I'm happy for you. Although that's not the question. Expectations are subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Individuals. That said, Thailand is on the top in this regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?I like your perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Are these stats based on percentage of individuals or relationships? How is cheating defined in these cases? Sexual relationships outside of marriage basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 06:17 PM |
| 3 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Objectively, what's wrong with incest? 😂 The Targaryens did it.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 06:09 PM |
| 2 | Objectively, what is wrong with "cheating"?Not once i have cheated, and i have probably been cheated on. Probably, because i could not prove it. But thanks for your insight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 05:58 PM |
| 1 | I reached out to r/againstmensrights just now, let’s see what happens:Have it your way. 😊 | /r/AntiFeminists | 19/01/22 02:49 PM |
| 1 | I reached out to r/againstmensrights just now, let’s see what happens:So how can you talk about "blind adherence"? Especially when OP mentioned the movie in a context of better understanding MRA and not as a proof for the claim that MRA is right about everything or anything at all... | /r/AntiFeminists | 19/01/22 09:05 AM |
| 1 | I reached out to r/againstmensrights just now, let’s see what happens:Did you see the documentary? | /r/AntiFeminists | 19/01/22 06:45 AM |
| 0 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?If your wife has nothing against black people then what would be her reason to never date a black guy? There's a difference between having a certain type of guy as your best male friend for instance, whole heartedly support equality for minorities and letting them into your body. One's personal sexual preferences is no one's business. If she wants nothing else but white males, it's her business and it's not racism as long as she doesn't go around bragging about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:59 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Right, but shaming people, and overly generalizing only going to add to their misery. At some point we must say that this thing is not OK. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:45 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?An infertile woman cannot do this. So that would be a reason against a LTR with an infertile woman for me. Majority of women can do it though, but no trans women can do it. How would you feel about a trans woman that's had bottom surgery? Indifferent probably. I mean as long as the willie is there, sorry I'm just not into it, even if she has the best butt I've ever seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:42 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Wage gap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 07:18 PM |
| 0 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Exactly. Thanks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?No, i prefer a woman whith whom i can reproduce. I want our children to inherit qualities from both of us. It doesn't mean i can not be sexually attracted to an infertile woman. Birth control is not infertility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 07:13 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?True. But as i said, what's considered sheer stupidity today may be in the mainstream tomorrow. There are a plathora of examples for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 07:10 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Right, and i do have compassion for them, it doesn't mean that i should marry them out of compassion or else, i am "transphobic". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:59 PM |
| 2 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Well not just that, I am also not attracted to people i can not reproduce with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:54 PM |
| 6 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Yepp, especially to those trans people who are not part of this nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:52 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Well, if someone do not date trans people because they can not reproduce that's not a case by case basis, nor is it phobia. There can be overlaps though. there's nothing to fear They said this when the water flown back from the shore in Thailand, many didn't even noticed. Then the tsunami killed thousands. Identity politics is a very dangerous game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:51 PM |
| 1 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?I only asked this question one time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:44 PM |
| 6 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?The point is shaming people into having sex, as simple as that. Yeah, but does it work? Don't really think so. I think it's just one (damaging) way of venting frustration. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:42 PM |
| 4 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?If she says she is a woman i have no issues using the preferred pronoun out of respect, but if she has a dick, i will turn her down regardless and by default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:38 PM |
| 2 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?It's only a minority of trans people who are fully and surgically transitioned. If she looks talks and acts exactly like a woman, i may give it a chance, but even then, having your own children is impossible for obvious reasons. The majority of trans people are NOT fully transitioned and as a heterosexual male i think i am allowed to prefer female sex organs without being pressured to feel bad about it. Trans men on the other hand can not transition fully, so i guess heterosexual women also have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:34 PM |
| 3 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Perhaps you'd do well to grab hold of the guy you just answered and try to improve your reading comprehension together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:26 PM |
| 3 | What's the point of labeling people who wouldn't date transgender people "transphobic"?Notice how i never even suggested that i "do not want to fuck" a trans person. I asked what's the point of shaming. But cheers anyway your answer made me chuckle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Are the qualities required to attract a person the same ones needed to be successful in a relationship?There's a lot of discussion about both topics though. Just yesterday there was an OP asking Red Pillers, what qualities are they looking for in regards of LTR. To answer your question, i think those qualities are definitely needed, but not enough. Being attractive is good enough to get you trough the door but to stay, you need more, and even more if you want to be in a fulfilling, happy relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 03:06 PM |
| 1 | I reached out to r/againstmensrights just now, let’s see what happens:A movie... A cult-like following? How is that making any sense? Why do you think that? | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/01/22 02:33 PM |
| 3 | [Q4M] Will you be checking out of your relationships at a certain age?Then i guess i have more time to hang out with my buddies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:35 AM |
| 4 | [Q4M] Will you be checking out of your relationships at a certain age?Put it this way, if i have to choose between an SMV 9 entitled brat and an SMV 5 (avarage) kind and feminine woman i will chose the latter without a second thought. The former probably worth a one night stand, but nothing beyod that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:28 AM |
| 2 | I reached out to r/againstmensrights just now, let’s see what happens:Genocide always starts with dehumanizing a group. The patterns are prevalent and it does not matter if you do it based on gender, race or religion. | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/01/22 08:20 AM |
| 1 | I reached out to r/againstmensrights just now, let’s see what happens:Dude you have no idea wtf are you on about. He is talking about the documentary, made by the (ex)feminist Cassie Jaye about MRA. | /r/AntiFeminists | 18/01/22 08:16 AM |
| 1 | Triggered by a confident woman.C'est la vie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:09 AM |
| 9 | [Q4M] Will you be checking out of your relationships at a certain age?No i won't, or if ever, not because of age. Women's value declines with age. This is not entirely true though. Women's SMV starts to decline earlier, but your sexual market value is not your value as a human being. Your SMV indicates the options you have relative to your peers but it's not what's going to keep you in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 08:08 AM |
| 2 | Triggered by a confident woman.There are plenty who can't distinguish between the two. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Triggered by a confident woman.Well, I'm not trying to be a jerk here but you won't get accurate results if you do not outline your case appropriately. There is just no way to be objective about this particular case, as there is not enough substance. But anyhoo... Enjoy your day and don't lose faith. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 05:00 AM |
| 2 | Triggered by a confident woman.I'm merely saying that you'd be better off putting some links into your OP, so people could objectively relate to what you say. You are triggering emotional responses, but i am not sure if it's useful at any level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Triggered by a confident woman.People often confuse being confident with being arrogant. Without knowing the context of your conversations, it's hard to tell which category you fall into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 04:44 AM |
| 2 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.There are fractions within the manosphre interpreting RP trough their own lenses. The manosphre (red pill aware men) is not homogeneous just as feminism for instance is not homogeneous. It consists of a plathora of subgroups (from PUA trough MRA to Incels) arriving to different conclusions from the same data or beleive misrepresentations of said data to be true. Essentially what differentiates people within the manosphre is how they act after becoming RP aware. There are people who are flatout w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 01:53 AM |
| 1 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.He didn't advocate for marriage thogh, he advocated for LTR-s and said, no one wants to just bang random chicks till they die. People ideally want someone to be with, RP-s are not exempt, and the reason they do not like marriage is because it's a bad deal (in it's current state). State in your bedroom IS marriage the state is the legal body that recognizes marriage otherwise you are not married. And if that was the only thing the State does, we would not have a problem with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 01:29 AM |
| 2 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.Red Pill and Pick Up Artistry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 01:19 AM |
| 1 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.Rollo Tomassi (often referred to as the "Godfather of the red pill"). He is against marriage in it's CURRENT FORM (as in "inviting the State to your bedroom") and not against the idea of marriage, much less against LTR-s, like most RP guys. He himself is married. Many red pill guys on this thread are married.. I myself am married... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 10:25 PM |
| 2 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.Staying single and spinning plates is part of the redpill sidebar. I just double checked the TRP side bar and didn't see any of it. I might have missed so you are welcome to put the links here, so we can discuss this in details. "Spinning plates" is something you do when you are vetting. It only means non exclusive dating. This question clearly wasn't for you, but thanks for reminding us you have it all figured out. You asked red pillers a question. I am red pilled. I answered the question. Why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 06:44 PM |
| 5 | RedPilled men: What qualities in a woman would it take for you to agree in good faith to an exclusive relationship with a girl.I think, there is an underlying assumption in your OP, that RP guys are not looking for LTR-s which is false. Plenty of us became red pilled, looking for answers after failed/derailed relationships and most of us do look for LTR-s, or looking to improve the quality of our current relationships. RP is not PUA. Hence the question is simply what qualities do RP guys looking for in women for LTR. In regards of what i am looking for: -honesty -decency -common sense -healthy level of aggreablness -the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 05:57 PM |
| 6 | I’m scared of menLady, you need to seek treatment. The level of paranoia in your tone suggests that you are not in the right mindspace. There's a thing called self fulfilling prophecy. If you are looking for trouble, trouble is all you gonna find. To me ALL men are bad and scary and I’d rather be safe then sorry To me ALL women are bad and exploitative and I'd rather be safe then sorry. Does the above sounds a bit like mysoginy for you? There's nothing wrong with a healthy level of carefulness, but in your case,… | /r/AntiFeminists | 17/01/22 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Men, women and murder - effects on the SMP/RMPI think, misinterpreted, fake or poorly explained (out of context) statistics have far more negative effect on women's behavior in regards of dating then anything else. It's nothing more easier then to spread paranoia among women by saying, 1 in 4 college women are raped or IPV is a gender issue, caused by men. Yes, murder is AMONG the leading causes (fixed it for you) of death. But as many have said below, a woman from the hood, hooked with a guy with criminal history is far more likely to be k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 02:51 PM |
| 2 | How do you reconcile AF/BB and the fact that most men engage in sexual behavior long before marriage?I am not going to disagree with you about this. There are way too many people who try to understand the world in binary terms, ad this hurts them and us all, as there's nothing binary about complex issues. We have a certain type of feminism on women's side and we have a certain type of Red Pilled guys on our side and unfortunately the masses tend to judge based on the worst examples, rather then on the median. Hence you get people who do not call themselves feminists/MRA-s (or RP-s) even though … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 01:03 AM |
| 2 | How do you reconcile AF/BB and the fact that most men engage in sexual behavior long before marriage?You know, i can not really do much with people's opinions tbh. I can show you dozens of examples where people claim that the Earth is flat but that doesn't make it so. There are at least as many RP guys around who doesn't quite understand what RP is about as "haters". As i said, critique is welcome, but you must critique the authentic source in context, not the (mis)interpretation. By authentic source i mean Rollo Tomassi and The Rational Male for instance, in which he says "hypergamy is not a s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | How do you reconcile AF/BB and the fact that most men engage in sexual behavior long before marriage?Well the whole hypergamy thing is based on an evolutionary explanation That doesn't exclude social factors. Just because something has roots in evolution, it doesn't mean it's entirely evolutionary. As i said, when the question is, is it nature or nurture, it's more often then not both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 10:15 PM |
| 3 | How do you reconcile AF/BB and the fact that most men engage in sexual behavior long before marriage?So maybe cultural factors and upbringing should play a bigger role in RP theory instead of evolution and biology. It all does. There is nature AND nurture, not OR. I don't remember ever reading any genuine RP stuff that claims otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 09:46 PM |
| 2 | If you are going to be vulnerable with a woman by lowering your guard with her it's wise to only do so if you are callous enough to withstand her scoff, scorn, or laughter. And to have the ability to walk away and go about your day if she does.I am not sure if you have to be tactical about it though. Just be authentic and "read the room". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 04:51 PM |
| 1 | If you are going to be vulnerable with a woman by lowering your guard with her it's wise to only do so if you are callous enough to withstand her scoff, scorn, or laughter. And to have the ability to walk away and go about your day if she does.You nailed it, well said. I like the fact that you apply the same standards to both genders, unlike many other people here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 12:51 PM |
| 2 | If you are going to be vulnerable with a woman by lowering your guard with her it's wise to only do so if you are callous enough to withstand her scoff, scorn, or laughter. And to have the ability to walk away and go about your day if she does.You simply can not show any kind of weakness or vulnerability prior to establishing that you are otherwise capable, independent, strong and able to solve your own emotional baggage. There is nothing more sexy and intimate then a tough guy who can cry, when it does matter to cry. Vulnerability is repulsive when you are being seen as weak as a default, but it is in fact attractive further down in the relationship, because it adds depth to your personality and strengths intimacy trough trust, as yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 12:21 PM |
| 22 | How do you reconcile AF/BB and the fact that most men engage in sexual behavior long before marriage?Your premise is false, that's the problem. I do not know where do you guys keep getting the idea (self proclaimed RP guus imcluded) that these things are obligatory. That women/men do ONLY "X" or "Y". AF/BB is indeed an oversimplification, but it is solely for demonstration purposes and should not be taken literally in every single word. Every RP theorist who knows what he is talking about will tell you that much. It doesn't mean that less sexually appealing men do not get sex at all. In a nutsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/22 11:40 AM |
| 1 | The reason the 20/80 rule exists in hookup culture (aka Tinder) is because society shames women for having sex but rewards men for having itYour premise is valid, but the consequence do not follow from it. Promiscuous women are judged differently then promiscuous men, true. But for women only the numbers matter, not the qualities of the partners. The 80/20 rule is due to women's abundance of choices, and to the fact that men are more then willing to "date" down for a one night stand. Also it works differently IRL then it does on OLD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 01:40 PM |
| 1 | if your partner did gain a lot of weight and looked significantly more chubby, would that be a deal breaker ?Not necessarily. There's some flexibility, I'm not into topmodels and a reasonable amount of body fat can be sexy.. I am not sexually attracted under or over a certain point though. So if it's too much, I'd just grab her hand and go to to gym with her. If she is unwilling to put in any effort, that's an other story. The reason for picking up weight matters too. If it's due to pregnancy or illness, that's no deal breaker, but she must be willing to work on herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 01:09 PM |
| 4 | "In women, we find no such effect."...In the future, when artificial wombs will be available to the masses, it might change. Till then, generally speaking men will always be more disposable then women, because the survival of the kin is more important then the survival of the individual. One man can replace the population of a small village within years. One woman can not in a lifetime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 10:58 AM |
| 1 | "In women, we find no such effect."...Talking about war, perhaps you'd do well to study a bit more history. Kings were more reluctant to fight wars then Queens. Not only that, but warfare is among the most important catalysts of technological advancement. Not that any of this is a justification, it's just good to know when you're about to judge history and men. Things are a bit more complex then men=bad... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 09:44 AM |
| 4 | "In women, we find no such effect."...🤟 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 04:02 AM |
| 11 | "In women, we find no such effect."...You got me wrong. I genuinely think it's deep and poetic. There's so much to unpack in that one sentence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:38 AM |
| 10 | "In women, we find no such effect."...Men don't value men. And never have. How twisted this is.. Just unbelievable.. No it's because women are valued more then men in every single society since the dawn of time as much in the animal kingdom as in human civilization, as they should be. We know that, you don't seem to have a grasp. If this wasn't true, and our oppressive patriarchical ancestors would send their women to fight their wars rather then doing it themselves, you wouldn't be here to type all this nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:35 AM |
| 8 | "In women, we find no such effect."...Funny thing is that after 2 hours she asked me if I can cuddle for another hour. Dude, that's so deep and poetic... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:24 AM |
| 2 | "In women, we find no such effect."...Skin hunger/touch starvation is a very real thing, and it causes higher risk of inflammation, depression, high blood pressure, and lower immune system. This is very true. And even if the guy is not completely isolated, men-friends are seldom touching each other, other then a handshake or a pet on the shoulder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:20 AM |
| 24 | "In women, we find no such effect."...Social isolation sucks. Who would have tought so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Do you agree - Even if having sex with a man would literally save his life, a woman has NO moral "obligation" to do soUnder no conditions is anyone entitled to anything at all other then opportunities and basic human dignity, and even that can be lost. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 02:54 AM |
| 2 | META-ANALYSIS: Many studies show that adult virgins (and late bloomers) are unpopular, bullied, ostracized, socially isolated, have low status, etc.I lost my virginity at 21 at college. I am a male. No one gave a flying fuck, no one knew. I had options, but i also had a certain mindset. The girl i had first had sex with didn't even notice that she was my first. People who are still virgin at a certain age are usually not bullied/mocked because of their virginity. They are virgins because they are socially awkward, and that's why they are bullied/mocked if they indeed are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 07:48 PM |
| 5 | META-ANALYSIS: Many studies show that adult virgins (and late bloomers) are unpopular, bullied, ostracized, socially isolated, have low status, etc.We want 16 years old female virgins.. Sheep will do if none available. This also debunks the claims men make on this sub that men want a 25 year old female virgin I mean seriously though.. Most men find young women (age 20 - 25) with low notch counts attractive. What's wrong with that? And how the studies disprove that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 06:33 PM |
| 8 | META-ANALYSIS: Many studies show that adult virgins (and late bloomers) are unpopular, bullied, ostracized, socially isolated, have low status, etc.Was just about to ask the exact same question. It appears to be correlation rather then causation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 05:33 PM |
| 5 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?They do in intimate relationships unfortunately. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?Unfortunately, shitty men seem blame their gender for their shittiness. They think there's strength in numbers, and that shitty behavior suddenly becomes less shitty when every man does it. What do you mean by this? I can't comprehend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 08:52 AM |
| 2 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?I can’t say anything for sure. A lot of “nice guys” were the exact guys to hurt me. They use that trope specifically to get your guard down and create a facade to hide their terrible behavior. Yes, unfortunately many people have high narcissistic tendencies nowadays and they have a talent to make you believe that they are genuinely into you. Once you're hooked or they got what they wanted, they act like a totally different person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 08:44 AM |
| 2 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?No problem. 👍 No, of course it doesn't. On the individual level, people are different, but generally speaking you can categorize people into groups, based on their behavior. Like if you are a good judge of character, you can predict future behavior, by essentially recognizing patterns, hence you are able to recognize red or green flags and decide where you go from there in regards of any kind of relationship. This is a crutial ability that i see getting missing as people are increasingly locked … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?Thanks for sharing al this, i hope it will all turn out to be the best for you. Just one question I'd like to ask. Have you recognized any kind of patterns in people's behavior based on which you could tell the difference and predict their future behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?Well how do you connect to someone with whom you have nothing in common? Further, there are only a handful of ways to act in certain situations, and there are 9 billion people on the Planet. Patterns are inevitable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?I mean, what choices do you have? You can sulk in the past or you can get over it and make your life better for yourself. It's not easy, but you don't do it for others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:18 AM |
| 1 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?Patterns do exist though or else it would be virtually impossible to bond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:15 AM |
| 2 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?Depends on what you mean by a tainted view of the other gender. Basically blaming them generally for the failures of your romantic relationships instead of judging on the individual basis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?The only thing i disaggree with is this: I think it's a far easier pill to swallow that the problem lies with me. I don't think it's "easier". Far more beneficial, but if it was easier, people wouldn't struggle doing it. I'm with you un the rest. 🤟 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:03 AM |
| 4 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?What’s this trend with calling all PPD women “FDS.” Did i do that though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/22 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4All, Do you allow past traumas to taint your view of the other gender/cause disturbances in your present relationship?I do aggree with you. In any phobia cases the healing process is (in a nutshell) to confront the phobic with the subject of her/his phobia. This is why Erin Pizzey suggests that thoroughly vetted male helpers should be allowed to work at the shelters for abused women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/22 09:57 PM |
| 3 | Is crying a turnoff for you?It doesn't matter how many times we ask these questions, the answer is always the same: "we want emotionally available men". Actions speak louder then words... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/22 05:30 PM |
| 0 | [deleted by user]I think, objectively the avarage guy is just as attractive as the avarage girl. The reason for the confusion is that guys are more then willing to date down (more so then women), especially if it's just about sex, and this gives a sense of abundance that makes the avg girls beleive that they are more attractive then the avarage dudes. If we talk about weight, guys in the US are more likely to be overweight, but women are more likely to be obese or severely obese. In the UK, women are leading the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/22 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areI don't think anyone of avg+ intelligence would be satisfied with someone "dumb" on the long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/22 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Women who HAVE in fact dated or married a Red Pill Man, good experience/relationship or negative?😂 No it isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/22 06:53 AM |
| 2 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?The issue really is just getting people to actually work together on a feasible plan to manage the decline and actually publish that plan so that people outside of central government know what is happening, and know that things are being taken care of to prevent a social crisis. Yes, on this one, we do aggree 100%. What is needed is people who actually know what they are talking about and are on the opposing sides of the spectrum to sit down in public and reach common grounds. (This applies to v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Hostile language and feeling the need to yourself lmao. Interesting that this comment is coming from someone who initiated a "conversation" with hostility by involving an ad hominem and "talking down" to begin with. But as i see, you are doing the same to others, and then act as if you didn't do anything wrong as a follow up. This is what's called trolling. You are deliberately trying to piss off people. I find it funny cause you do not have merit. Others may do get pissed. If you want to have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?All you’re doing is proving my point. If you don’t want to be called out for being upset then stop getting upset. Like i am upset 😂. I mean why am i supposed to be upset? Cause some insignificant random chick on reddit tried to intimidate me with some cheap phrases that i heard like a million times? Honestly, does this makes sense to you? Sure, not everything is literal, except when someone talks in a literal sense and uses exclusive words like "only". Was she sarcastic? Absolutely. Was I? Yupp.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Lmao aww you seem upset. And yet an other phrase from the exact same notebook. Like, i can't even count how many times I've heard this.. Like it means anything, other then being a sad excuse to talk down on someone.. 🤣 I mostly am amused and find it entertaining when ignorance is coupled with arrogance. Keep up the good work. Didn’t think it took a genius to understand to read between the lines to know that it could mean any kind of labor. Do you happened to know what the word "ONLY" means by an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?If elderly people live longer, healthier lives due to modern medicine, then surely the age of retirement would increase because those people are not dependent on others for care, since they're in better shape? Of course, and the retirement age did rise in many countries. Nothing holds back people to work until they die or become incapable either. But is this really what we want to do? I mean surely you are not happy with the idea of having to do your 9 to 5 till the end of days (unless of course… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 06:39 PM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Do we really need a huge restructure to fix the ageing population? Why not just reduce government spending and increase taxes and do so gradually? Yes we do, if we do not fix the birth rates. An aging population is in a downward spiral on the way to disappearance on the long term. Increasing taxes in this case would implement that we do so ad infinitum, till the last worker dies. This is impossible without serious backlash. You can't tax the shit out of people, they will find ways to avoid payin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 05:52 PM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Well before anything.. I would press on the importance of public conversations and debates between PROFESSIONALS. I am merely voicing my opinions here, but i am not an expert, and i can be wrong on any and all accounts. I am also not in any measure influencing anything at all. First and foremost, society needs to know about the issue, then an agreement must be reached wether this is a problem/challenge or not. If whe agree that this is indeed a problem/challenge then we must reach common grounds… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 05:21 PM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?As i told to others, as long as its low in volume, controlled and diasphoras are not allowed to form (this would affect people with vastly different cultural background), immigration could be at least a temporary solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 04:13 PM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?If we wish to increase feminism around the world, once easy way to do it while solving the ageing population problem is through immigration. Well not exactly. Controlled, low volume immigration, where the state do not allow diasporas to form may be helpful (in those cases where the cultures are vastly different). I do not wish to go into details, because i am not in the mood to be called racist, but there is a reason why "willkommenskultur" have failed miserably. Hungary was the first to point o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 04:07 PM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?The taxing is pretty much a non-issue, to be honest. I still don't buy that, i am sorry. The biggest issue with birt rates under replacement level in developed countries is that it results in a contracting population pyramid pattern, due to the fact the elderly people live longer thanks to modern medicine. Beyond replacement means that there are consistently declining amount of babies born. The shrinkage of population tends to be asymmetrical among the age groups. The elderly population shrinks … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 09:18 AM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Because surgeons are very rare and they can not do surgeries outside of a hospital environment. Because home schooling is great, but most people can not afford it. Because families won't fight wars. But mostly because even nuclear families are becoming remnants of the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 08:23 AM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?The way the pensions were built and structured assumed that the populations will grow but beyond that i don't think it's a good idea that population keeps growing. It's not just the pensions though, everything that is financed by taxpayer's money (healthcare, education, defense, women's refuge shelters etc..) is at serious risk if there are not enough taxpayers to fund the system. I do not advocate for the growth of the population. I advocate for the importance of avoiding further decline. they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 07:58 AM |
| -1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Lol what is even the pint of your first sentence? Here is what she said: “... liting heavy stuff is the ONLY thing they bring to the table." I'll let you guess... The rest of your comment is a textbook case of intellectual laziness. The value of it is less then releasing a fart in the wind. If only it was humorous and/or genuine, i could give you some credit, but it feels like you guys are taking all your insults from the exact same "Feminist rebuttals; a guide for dummies" notebook written by s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 06:53 AM |
| – | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Sorry. I misunderstood and didn't mean to interrupt the dialogue. That's no problem at all! :) our planet's environment is being wrecked. This is certainly true, though i am not sure if this is mostly due to the sheer number of people alive. I wont claim that i am an expert on the topic, i didn't do much research, but I've heard good arguments from both sides. All i can say to this is that i do not know. One thing is sure, finite resources = finite population. It's as if a second team of humans … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Well you talk about taxes a lot which is fine cause i do too. But what you do not seem to understand is that with the fertility rate beyond replacement level comes along the aging of the society as less and less people are born. This results in LESS TAXPAYERS, and more people in need of social services that need to be financed with taxes. To put it simple, there will be no money to finance the social systems, period. State pensions are also financed by taxpayers's money in most countries, its re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Immigration from where? The UK left the EU for many reasons but mostly because of immigration (from other EU countries like Hungary). Where do you want to immigrate people from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 01:24 AM |
| 4 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?What are you talkin about? Most modern societies are aging, the fertility rate is way beyond replacement level and it's getting lower on avarage, the only reason why the population in these countries do not shrink is because of immigration. There are plenty of scientists around to predict that many of these country's population will be halved by 2100. State pensions are going out of use all accross Europe and countries from where people are immigrating (and birth rates are beyond replacement lev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 01:14 AM |
| 2 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?I meant it on this particular thread, and not in the literal sense. There seems to be an agreement that an ever growing population is not beneficial nor is it sustainable or even possible in a world where resources are finite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 12:53 AM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Are you a carer by any chance? In fact, it's actually really beneficial. The downsizing also means downsizing of agricultural and service sectors, which means those people can be retrained into care roles since many are still in their 20s-40s right now. This takes care of the initial drop in youths. Who is going to pay for thos carers? Why do you assume that those people want to do care jobs? I've done caring for elderly, it's a very hard job and it requires a certain personality type. Not every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Tough luck. 🤨 It's not tough luck. People wanted human rights and freedom of choice. None these is possible without a welfare state and a strong social web that is backed by sufficient input. Sufficient input requires replacement level fertility. Fertility beyond replacement level is going to result in loss of human rights due to the collapse of the welfare state and the dissolution of the social web. Try as they may, no government is able to control this. Nor should they be able to. This is not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 08:19 PM |
| 6 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?If the population decreases, the scale of society needs to follow suit. Right. And there will be dramatic challenges need be addressed. We are at the stage at which we are not even agree that this is a problem, despite the fact that a plathora of qualified people suggests that it is. The idea that we should produce more living, breathing, humans beings to suffer life's woes to fill up spots in a bloated society is asinine. No one argues for an ever increasing society. Being concerned about ferti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 08:02 PM |
| -3 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Men will be relegated to construction, aka “building civilization” jobs because lifting heavy stuff is the only thing they bring to the table. Its funny you say this using technology invented and produced almost exclusively by men. 😂 Women are more then welcome to join forces with electricians, carpenters, plumbers, miners etc.. instead of getting a degree in useless and severely underpaid fields and financig their studies trough loans they are unable to pay back. You guys are also more then wel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Sure, we can let fertility rate decline. An argument can be made thay less people is better for the Planet and for societies. However, at some point, when a theoretical optimum level is reached, the process must stop and fertility must be set on stabile and sustainable replacement level. We didn't have such issues when natural selection was taking care of birth rates and such. We do have an issue now because artificial procedures (feminism, industrial revolution, the pill) interfered with natura… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 05:25 PM |
| 3 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Dude, men's fertility has been decreasing year by year ever since the '60s Right.. Still, the sperm count of an avg. dude today (39M - 928M per "shot") is more then sufficient to fertilize an egg. You need to increase wages and life conditions, many people don't have many mir children because they can't afford. Troughout most of human history poverty levels were way higher then it is today. The difference is that now you do not have to rely on your children to take care of you, Uncle Sam will do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Is the only way to increase fertility rate to take away women's rights? If so, why not let fertility rate decline?Not yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:46 PM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realAnd I think a lot of the inequality comes from the biological fact of women carrying babies. You can't remove that inequality, but you can make 'reasonable adjustments.' I aggree, a woman carrying a baby is definitely something that must be factored in when certain decisions are made. However, it's only about 20% of women who are actually solely career focused, an other roughly 20% wishes to be a stay at home mom, and the rest is between the two. Not undecided! What they want is to have kids, ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 08:54 AM |
| 2 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThe word itself means taking something without consent: "to snatch", "to grab", "to carry off". Coercing someone into a sexual act or riding him while he is incapacitated is not less an act of rape then forcing a penis into a woman against her will. The crux of the issue is consent and they know this very well, it's not a coincidence that they started to play around with the definition based on consent.. But she conveniently forgot aboit this. This whole bullshit that she presents, that "men can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 07:06 AM |
| 3 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThat’s the point I’m trying to make. It’s not as clear cut as “most domestic violence are just two angry people fighting and hurting each other”. "Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=2.3; 95% confidence interval [CI]=1.9, 2.8), but not men (AOR=1.26; 95% CI=0.9, 1.7)." "Reciprocal partner violence does not appear to be only comprised of self-defensive acts of violence. Several studies have found that men and women initiate violence agains… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 04:58 AM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI am not full of bias and I haven’t pulled my info out of nowhere. Pretty bad that you have given no confirmation to any of this. You say, these are established facts, surely you have some substance to prove it. The sole reason you do not cite any is that you know exactly that we would rip most of your studies apart and counter them into oblivion, with actual scientific research, peer reviewed by actual professional scientists. Also not out of touch with reality Well, you claim that a man can no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:41 AM |
| 2 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realBeleive it or not, i understand it too as i held my screeming wife's hand trough labor. Obviously it's not a first person experience but still, a compassionate soul can form a fairly accurate idea. No a male can not get pregnant, true indeed, however there are pills available for that purpose, and in this case i whole heartedly support abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:05 AM |
| 2 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI don’t need sources because I’m presenting established facts. That's something flat earthers would say.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 01:01 AM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realGreat! 🤝 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 09:54 PM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realDon't bash feminism. Bash bullshit, wether it's part of feminism or MRA.. 👍 Take no sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 09:02 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realMen do fight for each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 08:28 PM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is real👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 08:01 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realDo you want equality of outcome or equality in regards of rights and opportunities? Is equality inheretly good? Why do we need equality? Together with everything else we know about human history What do we "know"? What do we beleive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:38 PM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realRight, but most women do want children though, and men do not have to deal with this at all, wether we want kids or not. We have other disadvantages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:34 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThing is though, you are full of bias, and just pulling claims out of your bottom. It's not even worth to go into details, because your arguments are so out of touch with reality that's beyond comprehension. These are not even your personal arguments, any random radical feminist says the exact same bs without even thinking for a second. Here is your first! sentence: Women get lighter sentences than men for the same crimes because women are less dangerous criminals than men ".. for the same crime… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:32 PM |
| 0 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realNot having to grow a human being inside for 9 months and then giving a birth, then deal with recovery. Not having to make a deal between career opportunities and natural urges, being able to defend ourselves a little batter. Virtually that's all the male advantage i can think of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:20 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realWhat is proven by the fact that most leaders are male? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areAn agreeable person isn’t likely to challenge someone who is talking bullshit or getting facts wrong, but will be great at comforting someone who is upset because their pet died. It’s an important trait and a useful one. I think you are more or less right about this. However, agreablness (like all the others in the "OCEAN" model) is on a spectrum from very low to very high. As it's true with any of the traits, if it turns into pathology on either end, it's a bad thing. A too disaggrable person p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areGiving a “gender edge” is important in understanding the problem fully. Yes, true (i was inaccurate) . Saying that the crux of these problems is a gender (men) however is usually false. This is why i find terms like "mansplaining" repulsive. This is why i find radical feminism repulsive. Even if they are pointing out valid problems, their solution to basically everything is that "men need to do better", while they also claim that there's virtually no difference between the genders. So shouldn't … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWe are aggree on about 70 - 80% of things, yes. I can sense that you aren't really feel well about "being aggreable". Can i ask you what is your understanding of "aggreablness"? It’s better to be single than in a bad relationship, This is something that we all learn (if ever) by lived experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areBy straw man, you have created a new enemy to defeat. Ok, so that's not what strawman fallacy (you used it in a fallacy context by referring to slippery slope as "an other fallacy") means. I understand what you mean by this though, my problem is that i do not see a reasoning behind the claim, only the expression of the claim. And interestingly enough that expression itself is a strawman fallacy, as you are misrepresenting my initial arguments. you mentioned this exact type of women. No i told yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 12:15 AM |
| 2 | How can men fix online dating? Issues from a woman's point of viewI'm married too long.. 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 11:33 PM |
| 2 | The pill debate and their theories are ridiculousWhat really is laughable is how ridiculously people are out of touch with the pill stuff. You hear some bs here and there and you assume you know what you're talking about, when actually you haven't the slightest clue. Just one example: there is no such thing as "i am blue pilled" you either red pilled or you don't know about any of it. People are called blue pillers, because they are unaware, and if they are unaware they cannot call themselves blue pilled, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | How can men fix online dating? Issues from a woman's point of viewYou left out the guys sending dick picks as saying hello. Or is that not a thing any more? Honestly, no. I don't think we can do anything about it. They are juat as bad for as as they are bad for you. Kinda ruining the game for everyone. The best can be done is not to give them attention, like any kind, not even negative. That said, the other side of the coin is that, - believe it or not - if these guys are good looking enough, they can get a score every now and then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areIt is a strawman, All right, do you mind describing, what do you mean by strawman? I have the impression that you are not using the term in accordance with it's ordinary meaning. On the flip side, I have seen men turn down women who are smart, kind and reasonable because “I don’t want a woman smarter than me.” There are men that exist that are intimidated by intelligent women. So no, not all women who say this are a part of a straw man built group of people. Nowhere in my OP did i claim that suc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 12:10 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areI think we are in agreement that most loans are taken out by undergraduates, yes. Al I'm saying is that people with advanced degrees are rare and we can't make justifiable generalizations based on them, only within their group. The better marriage statistics within the group may or may not be in causal relationship with the fact that they hold advanced degrees. There are other personality traits specific to the group like higher avarage IQ. People with undergraduate degree are also minority, esp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areIf all other things equal, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areI am countering your suggestion that some men don’t have angst about a woman as I described. Well okay but i didn't suggest that. In fact, i did say it in my OP that there ARE men like that. I do claim however that this doesn't apply to most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWe do not actually disaggree on a lot. Yes above avg people would prefer above avg people in regards of intelligence. Men with avg intelligence prefer women with avg intelligence, this means, if they have a choice between a fit, feminine, friendly gal with avg intelligence and a less fit, feminine, friendly gal with above avg intelligence, most avg men will chose the former, and not because they can not handle a more intelligent partner, but because once the IQ threshold is met, other traits bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 04:02 PM |
| 0 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areOr it suggests that majoring in those subjects in those prestigious universities require a certain type of commitment, and a certain type of personality. You can be the most intelligent young guy, if you are otherwise socially awkward, you won't be successful with young women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areMate… you built one HELL of a person with that straw man. Is it a strawman though? What is someone's intelligence worth if they do not meet with other criteria. This is what i am talking about in the third paragraph. Those women think "intelligence = college degree" and based on this, they feel entitled to a certain type of guy. When that guy rejects them, the n+ times they spit out claims, cited in the OP. On the other hand, intelligence is only important till a certain threshold is reached, af… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areNowhere did i suggest that i disaggree with this though. Yes, you are right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areYes, you do talk about "dumbing down", and i do talk about "letting the guy win". Where we disaggree is that you do not have to dumb down, or play the damsel in distress thing. The only thing needed is to admit that the ways your partner does things are just as viable as your own solutions and only intervene in cases where the above is false, or if he is the one acting like his solutions are always better. Also i didn't speak about women in general, i have spoken about a subset of women who like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell, interestingly the OECD avg of people with doctorate degrees is 1.1% (UK is 1.4% for example) this number in the US is 2%, despite the hardships when it comes to finance. The EU avarage of people with some degree is around 40%, which is 8% higher then the US. But this has a high volatility on the country by country basis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areSure, and i didn't talk about an entire group either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWhat does "aggreablness" mean in your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areNot all men want to lead though. Not all of us is capable either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areYes, the gap is smaller indeed. And it's also true that the higher the education of the couple, the lower the chance for the divorce. Also people with higher education are more likely to be married. And, as a matter of fact, women are now more likely to have married to a man with a lower education. This trend just turned. Up to 2018, men were more likely to be married to a woman with a lower degree. That said, the amount of people in the US who obtained at least a college degree by the age of 29… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areLook, maybe it’s not your intention but the style of language and word choice sent off spidey senses. I am not sure, what exactly are you talking about, since you are the first one on this thread saying this. I think it’s disingenuous to say most men don’t value intelligence highly. Thats right, it would be, but i don't remember saying it. I said, we prioritize differently, other traits, like femininity are usually more important, being heterosexual males. Where exactly intelligence is on the pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areIntelligent women should stop worrying about all the me who don’t want to date them Frankly, i don't think that genuinely intelligent women are worried about men not wanting to date them, only because they are intelligent. I also don't think that any of these women would make any claim remotely similar to those cited in the OP. It's more like, a PhD won't make anyone genuinely intelligent, nor the lack of it unintelligent. These women were sold the idea that they have to go to Uni in order to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell, all i did was explained what does the term agreeableness mean, as when i asked you, you clearly provided an inappropriate answer. There's not much i can do about where people's mind go when i use certain terms, all i can do is to give some clarity in regards of what do i mean by them. Agreeablness is a term used in psychology in "OCEAN" personality typology. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 06:33 PM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areI misread your comment, i apologize. You treat women like dog breeds man, fucking weird. I didn't even know your gender so kindly back off please. And why would i not value agreeablness over intelligence? Would this mean in your mind that i want a dumb chick who always says yes or keeps her mouth shut? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areRight, everyone always seems to think social constructs are bad. I don’t really understand this. I think that's because of deconstructionism. Even people with PHD-s seem to think that just because something is a social construct it can simply be deconstructed or reconstructed without harm. It's like, yes, sure, meteors are social constructs. Zebras have no concept of what a meteor is, yet, if one were to collide with the Earth, we probably would not be overly happy about it, nor would the Zebras… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areEven then we all view reality through a personal perceived lens. That would introduce social constructs though no? Yes, 100%. But that doesn't mean that independent objective reality doesn't exist. Our concepts/interpretation of what it is is subjective by default. Language itself is a social construct so it's not unreasonable to assume that anything you describe trough language is a social construct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell not exactly, there's no cap on beauty, health, youth, fitness, fairness, being reasonable, openness etc.. For those, the mlre the better. I mean there's not much good about an argumentative, bossy, bitter fat old hag with an IQ of 140 (not that there are to many of those). I'd argue, that as long as she can hold a conversation, can solve everyday chalanges on her own, has a good sense of humor and common sense and won't bring shame during social events, most avg men value other traits highe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areThen why not list those traits? Because there is like two dozens of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areRight, but this doesn't go against anything i say in the OP. Once the threshold is reached, other traits become more significant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 03:29 PM |
| 0 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areAnd wtf “agreeableness”? It doesn't take much to Google it now does it? Perhaps that would be more enlightening then simply ranting about a term used in psychology, in the OCEAN model in particular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 03:23 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areYes, the interpretation of the OKCupid study is often wrong as it's less applicable to real life. It's not cherry picking though as it IS applicable to OLD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areRight. If i were to claim that "no men are intimidated", that would be a contradiction. The title was formed in the general way, without exquisitely stating the fact that it's a generalized claim. Saying that (group) X do Y does not necessarily mean that all members of X do Y, saying that all members of X do Y does. There are plenty, i mean, plenty of examples of this in colloqial English. Saying that dogs walk on four legs doesn't mean that there are no dogs walking on three legs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areAlot of them just want a "Yes Woman" to stroke his ego. I am pretty sure it happens. Most of the time, when I hear someone say they want someone agreeable, agreeableness is code for "Say yes to everything I want". You may wish to select a little more carefully, who you are talking to in that case. Aggreablness is an umbrella term that stands for a lot of subtraits like kind, flexible or reasonable. It does not mean at all that "you must aggree or shut up" this kind of understanding of the term i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areInteresting. And is this priority about "the more intelligent the better" or is there usually a threshold beyond which it becomes indifferent compared to other traits like femininity? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 12:57 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areLike what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areExactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 12:18 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities arePriority over what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 12:17 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areIf by intelligent you mean that she went through a diploma mill to get a worthless liberal arts degree, then that is a different matter. That's what they usually mean by it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areJP has a strong feminine side. At the end of the day, it's all about ballance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 11:48 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities arecan we just accept that there’s variety in the human experience? Yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 11:44 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areAnd for many, it is not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areAnd then elaborated in the OP. Guess that doesn't matter right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areIf you say so.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 11:39 AM |
| 0 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell, aggreablness is on a spectrum. If someone is way too aggreable that's just as bad as someone who is insufferably disaggrable. I I personally prefer intelligent over less intelligent, i do like to philosopize, i do appreciate wit based humor, and i actually like to be challenged on my toughts and ideas, as long as it doesn't turn into power play. I think an intelligent, feminine, fit, beautiful woman is beyond priceless, but i couldn't chose intelligence over femininity. I am heterosexual, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 08:58 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areI am intimidated by your intelligence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 08:46 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areThat's conflict avoidance though. Aggreablness is an umbrella term that covers a bunch of other personality traits like reasonable, charitable or helpful. It does not mean at all, that you suppised to avoid conflicts or not supposed to disaggree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 08:11 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell if women wanted submissive men, they would not conduct themselves differently, there's nothing to suggest otherwise. Women in authority-positions are just as likely as men to use immoral or unethical means to establish and preserve their dominance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 07:57 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areDo behavioral or preference related patterns exist in regards of groups? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areYall are too black and white in your thinking. It's not either or. It's both. Well thanks, i never claimed otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 06:55 AM |
| 7 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell, the women i was refering to usually mean "learned", opinionated, progressive, argumentative and disaggrable. But you are right, intelligence is vague on its own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 06:53 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areSex bots are a thing now. 😁 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 06:48 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areThanks for sharing. It looks like to me that as it is common with all disfunctional or maladaptive behaviors the problem originates in early childhood, upbringing and environment. It's great that you guys got along in the end though. 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 06:45 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areMakes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:52 AM |
| 3 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areAggreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:50 AM |
| 5 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areGreat. 👍 Pardon me if i sounded offensive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:50 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWhat aggreablness means in your opinion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:46 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areYes, I think, over a certain threshold "indifferent" is the applicable term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell for instance starting an argument simply for dominance purposes. Like, there are multiple ways to reach a desired outcome, competition in this regards means that he/she always pushes his/her way of doing things even though those ways require the same investments and result in similar outcome. It's not that vague. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:38 AM |
| 0 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areMen are talked over as well (both by men and women). How many times did i have a debate with "intelligent" women to whom i presented the best data available on a particular subject just to be called names as a last resort. Giving a gender edge to these issues won't solve them, actually it will make it worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:27 AM |
| 4 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areI don't deny the fact that such men exist. It would be an interesting thing to actually look into this in depth and find out why exactly this is happening. A lot of women here are incredibly quick to judge this as "insecurity", but insecurity is also a symptom IMO. There are deeper underlying issues. Did you ever had a chance to ask him? I'd be really curious about what he'd say. Being used to be the most intelligent in the room is a good clue, but still it's not the bottom of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:18 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areSo, would you say that you'd take a very intelligent but less feminine (whatever that means to you) woman over a not so intelligent but feminine woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areHow so? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:05 AM |
| 4 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell, yeah. "aggrrable".. I think a lot of women see this as a curse word nowadays. They think it means that they're not allowed to speak their mind or set and enforce reasonable boundaries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:04 AM |
| 3 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areAs a man, I can tell you that I require intelligence for a relationship–no way around it, she's at least got to be capable of considering philosophical questions or it won't last a year. I am not sure if you have read the OP or just the title, but nowhere in there do i claim that men do not require a woman to be intelligent. I aggree with you. Nor do i have any quarrels in regards of the rest of your points. I think most of us share the same opinions/preferences in this regard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell data is also interesting as it can be pretty subjective too, for instance. I think data - as long as it's gathered trough proper means - is always subject to interpretation. The latter is always subjective till it's reinforced with reality. Then it becomes objective. Naturally we are non monogamous, our brains naturally do not utilize pair bonding, nor do we naturally mate for life. Well there are research to suggest that in fact we are both. Depends on what serves survival needs better. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:55 AM |
| -1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areIs that correlation or causation thogh? And how abkut the studies that show that women have higher preference for intelligence in men then the opposite? Who claims, "intelligence is sexy", men or women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areI do, sure, probably none, other then the need to control. I'm just saying, the wast majority of men are not like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areFair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:36 AM |
| 13 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areThis! You wrote a better OP then i did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:34 AM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areEh. I can’t say I agree. Men tend to fall head over heels and then slowly feel absurdly self-emasculated over time with intelligent women. I can see that happening where the intelligence difference is large, and when the guy can't really be right about anything, ever. If she doesn't let him "win" a few times he stops wanting to "play" after a while. It’s why it’s literally always benefitted intelligent women to “dumb down and play up the damsel in distress” thing. Is it though? Or is it because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:30 AM |
| 3 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities are[....]ego death but men don’t take it well when a woman knows more on a given topic. I'd say if that's he case, gender is more or less irrelevant. If you are an egoist or have narcissistic tendencies, you do not take it well, if you are not right, or someone points out a flaw, or even if you're not the smartest person in the room. At least in my experience men are afraid to just be like “I actually don’t know much about that” but it probably ties into not wanting to look weak. Again, i think thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:12 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areTbf dumb men are probably intimidated by smart women. I aggree. And why do you guys feel the need to point out that men prioritize looks in women as if everyone hasn’t known this since we were 3? I do not know how i made the impression that "i feel the need to point out that men prioritize looks in women." That's not the point. But i would like to turn the question back to you. If it is so obvious and unchallenged, why do you think we have this "need"? This has nothing to do with men being intim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 01:02 AM |
| 7 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWell, if we are stating opinions, i think people should date whomever they wish to date, and if this means they can't find a suitable partner, they should be mature enough to accept that the problem is not the other gender, rather their own unreasonable expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 12:55 AM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areRight, but that's my point. We do not demand such a thing, rather we appreciate other traits more then intelligence. We certainly do not prioritize intelligence as high as ypu guys do. There are people who knowingly select for less intelligent, controllable people, but that's not the mean. Most men aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areIt’s a pretty subjective word in this context. It can mean a plethora of things to anyone. True, i merely said what i said as a reaction to what you said. How much blame you want to put on women. Right. So what makes the difference is not the existence of the data, rather the interpretation of it, right? RP is about the data. How you interpret it makes you an incel or a MGTOW or an RP-PUA or whatever. I just think it's important to make this distinction, even if it is off topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:45 PM |
| 3 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areCorrect, but isn't intelligence mean that you can distinguish between objective and subjective? I believe their view on women to be pretty similar yes. You know, it's interesting, because i am an RP guy. I am also married and a father. Besides before i was an RP guy i blamed my shitty marriage on my wife. Since RP, i focused on changing myself and my marriage became far better as a result. What do you think makes up the difference between an incel and me (for instance), when we all have the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areNever did i state that we do not care though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:24 PM |
| 6 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areWould you say that intelligence is among the most important factors when you are considering commitment to a woman? And would you say that that applies to most men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:12 PM |
| 5 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areMost guys deem women “intelligent” as long as they have opinions and views similar to them. I don't think so. I think most men find women intelligent who can put an argument together without including logical fallacies and presuppositions and dont frame their opinions as facts (this applies to men too though), but this is just one facet of it. Atleast this is what I’ve gathered over my almost year of studying the thoughts of incel/RP men. Do you think that incels and RP is essentially similar? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:08 PM |
| 1 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areit is a priority For women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:04 PM |
| 2 | Men are not intimidated by intelligent women, this is simply not where our priorities areOk. I have also seen guys who do not care wether she is more educated or not, myself included. It's usually the women though who care more about this, as in they want at least the same level (which is not wrong at all). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Men do peak in their 30s, but most men do the wrong things and don't put in the workEven though... That demographic doesn't represent "most men". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Men do peak in their 30s, but most men do the wrong things and don't put in the workMost men are "fucking losers" compared to what? They may not be in their best shape, perhaps they could do better financially.. This doesn't mean that they are losers though. Wether you are a loser or not is depending on how you preceive yourself, how satisfied you are with your own life. Most men being a loser would imply that most men are totally unsatisfied with their life, and i doubt that that's the case. What you personally think of them, does not really matter. Also, wether they are loser… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 08:59 AM |
| 1 | One of the reasons why men check out from society is because there is growing, unjustified hostility, disrespect and depreciation against men in general.People who say men's rights is a joke are jokers. 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 09:04 AM |
| 0 | The truth hurts😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/22 01:26 PM |
| 1 | Gender is not a social construct you foolsOh.. Sorry. I missed that. Next time then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 08:57 PM |
| 1 | The truth hurtsHis loving caring, nurturing and compassionate soul that's not afraid to show emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:52 PM |
| 1 | The truth hurtsWhere is the banana? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:50 PM |
| 0 | POV: You have just finished watched your 12th “High Value Male” YouTube video and ready to conquer the world.Clues they have no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 07:49 PM |
| 2 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.Its only discrimination when others do it. When she does it, she just "having preferences". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 03:22 PM |
| 1 | In which sequence should I read The Rational Male?Came out this year i think. TRM Religion.. Definitely go in order. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/22 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Can you read perhaps? Dude you act like a narcissistic retarded first grader. 😂 Deflecting.. Goal post shifting.. Changing your comments after answer was given.. Dishonesty.. Cliche ad hominems.. And apparently somehow you still managed to convince yourself that you are in the right lol.. If i wouldn't feel mildly sorry for you, I'd say your behavior is beyond pathetic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 02:43 AM |
| 0 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.I refer to the other thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Oh.. Still waiting for that on the other thread. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:56 AM |
| 0 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.I did, from your initial comment, just in case... before i said i did. other then that, you were played yes. 😉 Edit: https://imgur.com/a/QAbj8nO Taken at 20.44, one hour before you changed your answer on an other thread, where you misquoted yourself and built an irrelevant argument. I left my response to that unchanged so you can still see it as proof. Now who’s moving goalposts and straying off topic? You, obviously, as you still didn't answer a single question i asked, nor did you admit that y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Nope.. we don't do that on this thread lil' girl. You're cornered and changing the goalpost again. Also, you admitted it yourself so I've got nothing to prove. 👌You are not a good poker player are you though? 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Scared? From... You? Come on now don't be silly. :D Yo admitted it already so.. 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Well you've changed the whole meaning of your reply without giving a notice of edit. So yes it's kinda big deal. It's called dishonesty | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.“I don’t like what you said so you moved the goalpost reeeeee!” 🤣 I am not you, this has nothing to do with my feelings. You objectively changed the topic/goalpost. And I initially thought you were actually funny. Such a pity. You know it’s bad when the damn MGTOWS around here are funnier than you. Try harder lol. This sad excuse for an ad hominem is your lowest effort so far.. Then prove it, where was I specially talking about rape on the post I mentioned? You were talking about attack and rape… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:23 AM |
| 0 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.I edit my comments for spelling errors too, but we both know that's not what i am talking about. 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Retrospectively editing your comments wont help you either. 🤣 You are so predictable i made a screenshot before you did it lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Pff. Shifting the goalpost won't help you now my simple friend.. 🤣 You asked me to point out where you were talking about rape so i did exactly that. Now instead of admitting you were as dumb as a pine wedge, you are changing the topic. "typical response" is typical response, location is irrelevant, cause you know.. It's "TYPICAL"... 🤷♂️ Guess it doesn't matter cause you failed to prove your claim anyway.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Perhaps read back your first comment. I assume we are still talking in that context? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Wow. That's cool. Now please explain how and where the OP in your citation said that he is owed sex. Or he is not helping women any more simply because they do not fuck him. Or threatening women that he is going to leave them "raped" unless they fuck him for exchange.. Cheers! Please also quote a sentence in which rape was mentioned. There's only one rule though, no quotes without context! Good luck for the mental gymnastics 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Do you find men like this physically attractive?What a pity.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Yeah cause it is "utter nonsense". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:35 PM |
| 3 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.Poor tall guys... 😭 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:34 PM |
| 4 | Do you find men like this physically attractive?Don't listen to what they say.... You know the rest.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:33 PM |
| 5 | Do you find men like this physically attractive?U drunk? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 07:32 PM |
| 5 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.When you say "social media" you mean "dating apps"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:56 PM |
| 0 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.No, it's something to do with higher hormone levels.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:30 PM |
| 9 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.🤷♂️ I can't help but say what the official stats say. If you live in a rich neighborhood, it might be an answer as tall people tend to make more money for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:00 PM |
| 15 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.Well. Actually no. It's 14.5% in the US. That's a bit less then three men in every 20. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.You're clearly not listening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.I told you on the other thread that it's cool not to be in a mood every now and then.. No it's about flatout manipulation. If she isn't in the mood more often then not and she has no intention to manipulate, then there is no desire, there's no romantic relationship without desire so.. 🤷♂️ You can try fix it of course, but if it's gone for good then it's a 100% bye bye scenario unless kids are involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.If she were to try manipulate me with sex, no, i wouldn't. I'd tell her it's not cool. If she'd keep it up, I'd end the relationship. That simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.No dude that's not true. When they talk about girls not fucking them on the 3rd date they say "girls not fucking on the third date" not "witholding sex".. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:59 PM |
| 22 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.There's only about 10% of the male population above 6 feet.. Most women want 6 feet+ guys.. Go figure.. 🤣 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:54 PM |
| -2 | How true is this?Fairly accurate.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.Is having sex not part of a healthy romantic relationship in your opinion? Not being in the mood every now and then is not "witholding sex". Witholding sex is when you do not have sex with your partner unless he does "X". It is a rather frequent manipulation technique in which no men should partake. Why do you always have to jump to extremes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.No would it if she is only interested in provisioning and free attention. Both happens.. Hope we aggree.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.That's utter nonsense lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.I aggree! No one is owed sex, or provision or attention. However, if there's no reciprocity there's no relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Almost forgot your annual reminder: You're still not entitled to sex.There's no problem with witholding sex at all. At that point, the relationship is over, that's all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:11 PM |
| 1 | One of the reasons why men check out from society is because there is growing, unjustified hostility, disrespect and depreciation against men in general.that there’s something in men that needs to change. What is that something that needs to change in men, but doesn't in women? What exactly was the revelation of #meetoo? men are raised to reject femininity You got that wrong. It's not men who reject femininity and criticize women for being that way. It's other women, typically radical feminists. Ask any SAHM-s.. Dance? Where did you get that from? You might want to consider citing sources though if you wish to change opinions. but the conversati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:55 AM |
| 0 | Would you help a female in danger?Your relevant article about how women perform reciprocal domestic violence? Jeez can you read? My relevant argument! men were substantially more likely to injure their partner than women Twice as likely yes. Did i ever state otherwise? Nope. I said that women are causing far more damage. And i linked the relevant article, which is only 2 weeks old. .. woman slaps your arm Is that what lacerations mean? I mean are you serious? There is no point talking with you if you don't even understand what's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:01 AM |
| 0 | Would you help a female in danger?Can you cite and rebutt my relevant argument or you gonna keep building straw mans? Also why are you so fixated on sex lol? Maybe y'all should stop pretending orgasm and tell your partners what makes you climax 🤷♂️ Self reported surveys of hurt women... I mean if you're so unsatisfied, talk to my wife. If she is ok with it, i will take you there out of charity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:45 AM |
| 1 | Would you help a female in danger?Suit yourself https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-are-more-violent-says-study-622388.html%3famp https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ https://floridanewstimes.com/comparing-injuries-caused-by-intimate-violence-between-men-and-women-reveals-that-male-victims-are-more-severe/394577/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jun/07/feminism-domestic-violence-men https://youtu.be/Jzb4T0RBQ1Y | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:40 AM |
| -1 | Would you help a female in danger?All crime sources show that men are more violent and you can die mad and alone about it. 🤣 No it doesn't. I literally just told you about the actual IPV statistics.. But there are others love... Like women are far more likely to abuse/neglect their children which is only partially explained by single motherhood.. I mean, in case if you haven't realised yet, i am the one here who argues with facts.. All you are doing is basically bitching. It's like farting in the wind.. My 3 months old son has b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:34 AM |
| 0 | Would you help a female in danger?I’m saying that if chivalry is what keeps women safe, things would be worse for women now and they’re not. Assumptions upon assumptions.. But where is the substance? Also men crap on an entire gender and always have and probably will never stop. Na ah.. Men don't have anything remotely as influential as radical feminism. Criticizing you for bad science and for perpetuating bullshit claims like the wage gap is not "crapping on women". It's called legit criticism, as it's based on facts. Telling s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:16 AM |
| 0 | Would you help a female in danger?Well chivalry has ended and things are now better for women, shouldn’t it be the opposite? And things are better because chivalry has ended? You do understand that correlation and causation is not exactly the same thing right? Also using the idea of violence from men against women to try and get women to change how they behave is threatening yes. No one is trying to change how you behave. I'm just saying, if you're crapping on a whole gender, brainlessly blaming them for all sorts of shit, while… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:44 AM |
| 2 | I've recently been told by members of this sub that I am a troll and not a true MRA (despite identifying as one for over a decade) because I am anti-censorship, even if that includes not censoring hateful "feminist" spaces. I'm curious how this sub in general feels about censorship.Don't take it personal... Sometimes people just don't understand or have no patience for complexity. Those who actually wish to silence feminism are not bad people, they just had enough. Doesn't mean they're right though. If we want progress we have to be better. As you can't fight violence with violence, you can't fight cancel culture with canceling. The antidotes are peace and enabling. This subreddit knows that en large, this is why opposing views are allowed, unlike any other feminist subred… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/22 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Women and men can't be friendsNo, that's not how science work Well... No.. That is is exactly how science works. We use "old" data until new "better" data is discovered. We do not give up an established theory based on assumptions. You gonna have to do a little better then that. Yes it cites sources even from the 1960-s, but not to derive conclusions, rather to establish hipotheses and make predictions. The conclusions are derived from the actual study, conducted in 2000. Here, we have Definition, friendship can include sex.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 12:18 AM |
| 0 | Would you help a female in danger?I am not sure how you arrived to the conclusion that chivalry used to be a bad thing and the disappearance of it is "net positive" lol.. And yes threatening to not help women when the biggest danger to women in that regard is men, is absolutely a threat.. Threatening women not to help is a threat. Stating that men do not help is not a threat, it's an observation. Hope you understand the difference. It’s telling women that feminism (womens rights) need to be talked down or we won’t stop other men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:40 PM |
| 0 | Would you help a female in danger?By saying that men became less inclined to help out women in trouble? Is stating an observation and asking why it happens a "threat"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Would you help a female in danger?Yeah that sounds ridiculous.. Who did that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Would you help a female in danger?You make a lot of sense lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 09:50 PM |
| 0 | Would you help a female in danger?They won’t risk saving women from other men? Exactly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Would you help a female in danger?What this has to do with my comment though? And who blames the victim (cause that's your angle here..) Also, women hurt men too, and men hurt men too. In fact, men hurt men more then they hurt women... 🤷♂️ The only reason why women do not hurt men more is because women are physically weaker.. If You guys make the personal political, the conclusion is that chivalry dies and no one is going to risk getting injured by saving a woman any more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 09:26 PM |
| 4 | Would you help a female in danger?Wtf are you talking about if i may ask you ever so kindly? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 09:19 PM |
| 2 | IPV and Domestic Violence is not a gender issue, people who hurt each other are most often doing so because they were hurt in their childhood and have no healthy ways to cope or treat people.No problem. Also emotional abuse is not just the "you dick", "you cunt" type of things. Emotional blackmailing is also verbal for instance.. it hurts as hell as an adult, but can be devastating to an undeveloped psyche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 07:09 PM |
| 2 | IPV and Domestic Violence is not a gender issue, people who hurt each other are most often doing so because they were hurt in their childhood and have no healthy ways to cope or treat people.Its about physical abise... There are a plathora of studies to show that women are even more violent then men. In fact about 50% of the cases are reciprocal, 70% of the rest is committed by female perpetrators. Even within reciprocal cases, women are more violent. Verbal abuse is not less damaging then physical though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ It seems true that men are about two times more likely to cause injuries in general but men are also more likely to suffer mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Women and men can't be friendsWell, you are more then welcome to cite a more recent study.. Till then, we work with what we have. This is how science works. What you said may be relevant as personal opinions or assumptions, not more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 06:13 PM |
| 0 | Women and men can't be friendsYour logical reasoning is so powerful, it left me speechless.. :D If you're interested in anything other then validation, here's a study for u: https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2015/09/just_friends_2000.pdf The last sentence: "Can men and women be just friends? The answer appears to depend on the sex of the person you ask." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Women and men can't be friendsYour brother's best friend? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 02:54 PM |
| 3 | IPV and Domestic Violence is not a gender issue, people who hurt each other are most often doing so because they were hurt in their childhood and have no healthy ways to cope or treat people.Domestic violence is always male-on-female... Hehe, you're funny dude. No it's not.. You're welcome to dig your head in the sand, play the white knight and disregard the data. It won't change a thing. ... I don't even care... Perhaps that's the problem. Yes, Erin Pizzey was canceled and had to leave the UK because of other people who "didn't care" about what really is happening. 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 02:38 PM |
| 1 | IPV and Domestic Violence is not a gender issue, people who hurt each other are most often doing so because they were hurt in their childhood and have no healthy ways to cope or treat people.It's the minority and it also happens to women (in less proportion) as men are more likely to be born with antisocial personality disorder. In any case, if there's no disorder present, the manifestation of violence to this direction is a product of socialization and environment, and not inherent to men, nor women, also it comes from a disempowered place of mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Women and men can't be friendsWe are not on the same page here. You are talking about personal experience, i am talking about the large scale phenomenon. Treat yourself: https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2015/09/just_friends_2000.pdf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 02:17 PM |
| 1 | Women and men can't be friendsSaying what? Can you clarify please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 01:30 PM |
| -1 | Women and men can't be friendsI also said that a manly woman and a manly man can be friends if they do not compete too much. In your case, you'd have to call a more feminine man. If you do like to do manly stuff then it's obvious that you can connect to men the friendly way. They will also going to look at you and treat you just like they look at and trait their other male buddies. And they would not fuck their male buddies right? A feminine woman and a masculine man have nothing in common the friendly way. There is strong s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 12:08 PM |
| -1 | Women and men can't be friendsThere's not much in common between a manly man and a womanly woman in regards of friendship, other then they might want to fuck one an other.. A womanly man and a womanly woman can be friends, some times a manly woman and a manly man too if they don't fuck it up with too much competition... No other setup works. If you don't beleive me, - do as OP said - call up your best manly male friend and tell him, you just came to the realization that you sexually desire him, you wear your best lingerie an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Speaking as a white man, why are black women so unattractive and disgusting compared to other races? (looking for male input here)and white guys to be way more disgusting. Oi! Look who's talkin' about racism... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 11:29 AM |
| 2 | Would you help a female in danger?For the same reason chivalry doesn't exist anymore. r/askfeminists | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:59 AM |
| 2 | the picture threadNope. But the thing is, i have a relatively avarage "famous face" so depending on my bmi and my grooming i look like literally anyone.. 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Women should be allowed to abort their short sons.😂 I am, shaken to the core Miss.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:48 AM |
| 1 | Women should be allowed to abort their short sons.Well, to find out if your son is indeed short, you'd have to wait till age 16-18, when they stop growing in length. At that point women and men have about the same means to abort the unwanted child.. Women can become obese at any point in their lifetime, so i guess as long as the parents are around they can make such a decision as they also have equal means necessary... Alternatively they could pass this right of abortion down to siblings.. We could also abort women with flat chests and bum.. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:33 AM |
| 4 | Women should be allowed to abort their short sons.Also men should be able to abort their obese daughter.. Obese women only end up being bitter misandrist feminists.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:24 AM |
| 2 | the picture threadI wish.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 09:46 AM |
| 3 | the picture threadI like Chormie.. It sounds good 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 11:18 PM |
| 3 | the picture threadOctoberfeeeest!!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Men really have no way of knowing if a woman sleeps around. We just have to just accept that a woman’s past is a complete mystery.Never mind we are not so different 😝 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:45 PM |
| 6 | the picture threadHere's me. I chose a pre wedding picture cause some of you fuckers wouldn't beleive me when i said i am married and red pilled.. 😁 Pre wedding https://imgur.com/gallery/zBrZJ62 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Men really have no way of knowing if a woman sleeps around. We just have to just accept that a woman’s past is a complete mystery.Sorry i should have put out the exaggeration alarm.. Here: 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 (thought it's kinda obvious) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:29 PM |
| 0 | Men really have no way of knowing if a woman sleeps around. We just have to just accept that a woman’s past is a complete mystery.Yeah you can kinda tell when she asks "did you start yet?" and you have an avg+ dong.. Or her lips keep flapping like Dumbo's ears every time the fan blows at her direction.. I like when they act like they can keep it secret.. :D | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 10:23 PM |
| 1 | This article actually states "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more."Well.. You know it's wrong.. I know it's wrong.. That's enough, let them think whatever the fuck they want.. The proper response to injustice is justice, not more injustice. Just as you won't solve violence with violence. It never works. You may feel better for a short while for taking revenge but it's only a matter of time till someone will take revenge on you. | /r/MensRights | 31/12/21 10:10 PM |
| 4 | The red pill guys think more about “chad” than any women ever will.Hmm.. I can't argue with your well built and logically flawless argument, supported by data and research. Well done sir! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | How do red pill philosophers/members view no-fault laws in regards to divorces?People are free to marry and free to divorce as they see fit IMO... As long as there are no children involved. It is obvious that kids suffer in a single parent household, so i don't think letting spouses to just walk away without good reason is a good idea. The government incentive should be to hold those couples together not to make it easier, even beneficial to separate. No fault divorce provides an easier way out from abusive/toxic relationships, but it also provides an easier way out for pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 01:55 PM |
| 3 | She couldn't handle the fact that I have a height preference just like she does.Oh well, looks like you just avoided a train wreck aniway... Incel... 😂 They just can't handle rejection.. | /r/AntiFeminists | 31/12/21 08:05 AM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on this recent study claiming that unpartnered adults fare worse than their partnered peers?Is it necessarily a bad thing that single people make less money? Perhaps their work-life balance is also better.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/21 08:02 AM |
| 4 | I've recently been told by members of this sub that I am a troll and not a true MRA (despite identifying as one for over a decade) because I am anti-censorship, even if that includes not censoring hateful "feminist" spaces. I'm curious how this sub in general feels about censorship.Censorship is wrong, wherever it happens. People should be mature enough in the 21st century to be able to handle a challenge to their ideologies. And it's not just about freedom of speech and individual rights, but also it's not fulfilling it's intended goal. Whatever you censor, you wont make it disappear, it will go "underground" and you'll lose control. Censorship leads to bubbles and closed minded thinking. Anything that doesn't withstand or can not implement criticism is unworthy of follow… | /r/MensRights | 31/12/21 07:56 AM |
| 1 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, and acts like a duck, it's safe to assume it's a duck. It is, and there's about three parameters in your example through which you can judge with high accuracy. You can't make such accurate judgment simply by knowing that the guy is 10+ years older. You just don't have enough information that's all. What the fuck is desirable about having a man who barely comes home and has a high chance of cheating on you with a secretary and divorcing you for a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 02:22 PM |
| 1 | This article actually states "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more."Well, rape should not be gendered either. It's wrong enough that such gendered legislations do exist. Introducing more would only lead to more controversy. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/21 02:04 PM |
| 1 | This article actually states "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more."I don't think that we can or even should put something like this into law. I think however that such ideas should be part of the education under the subject of "financial wellbeing" or something like that. In fact, no one should share their complete finances with anyone without proper vetting.. Women can be exploited too, even though it happens more frequently with men. That said, no one has the right to see your bank statement, "just because".. So if one insists, that should be a call for endin… | /r/MensRights | 30/12/21 01:54 PM |
| 1 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.most people know it's a sugar relationship No, most people ASSUME it's a sugar relationship, they do not KNOW. Again, you guys greatly over-estimate how "cool' and desirable those men are to women. Again, i was talking about men with options, ie. those genuinely desired by women. You do not seem to understand what does this means, as you keep bringing up extreme examples of age gap relationships. The ground of the desire does not matter, it changes by one's age just as much as it does by the zei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 01:28 PM |
| 1 | This article actually states "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more."Well, if you want your finances to be safe, you should never share your full earnings (unless you vetted her thoroughly first and found that she can handle it with decency. Even then, caution is advised). I made that mistake once and it almost got me wrecked, haven't been able to fully recover ever since and it will take about an other 8-10 years. I can't even blame her for it.. | /r/MensRights | 30/12/21 12:31 PM |
| 3 | Comparison of intimate partner violence injuries among sexes uncovers higher level of severity for male victimsI can only speculate too, i have no data to go on about either. I'd say on the ground of planning, vs outbursts, there is no significant/big difference between men and women. If i were to choose between men and women in regards of who is more likely to premeditate an offense though, I'd chose women for the exact same reason below. I think in most cases it's simply just that an avg woman (being physically weaker) can not afford to involve herself in a hand to hand combat with an avg man, as she w… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/21 08:18 PM |
| 4 | Comparison of intimate partner violence injuries among sexes uncovers higher level of severity for male victimsHere is an article about IPV: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/floridanewstimes.com/comparing-injuries-caused-by-intimate-violence-between-men-and-women-reveals-that-male-victims-are-more-severe/394577/%3famp According to the above, men are more likely to suffer severe damage since women are more liklely to use potentially lethal weapons (like knifes, cars or guns), and offend weakened/defenceless men (especially 60+) while men rather use their own body. About half of the cases where men are victi… | /r/MensRights | 29/12/21 03:23 PM |
| 1 | This article actually states "Pay gap is bad, except when women earn more."Thats great, because single women actually do earn more.. No one cares about that gap.. How about women making 80% of consumer choices? Who are the "oppressed" (if anyone), those making more money or those essentially spending it? | /r/MensRights | 29/12/21 03:04 PM |
| -1 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.You're greatly over-estimating older men's chances of finding a younger woman who isn't a sugar baby or doesn't have daddy issues. I might, but that's a complete different topic. I was talking about "men with options". Ie.: men who are desired by a large margin of women, ie.: the men some of those 35+ women usually want for themselves and complain about them chosing younger women instead of them. Which typically happens because younger guys like over-estimate the amount of women who want older m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 02:35 PM |
| 2 | If a woman has money, then starting to have children when she's 30 and over is mostly fine.Why would someone with options go trough all that hustle, jump trough all those hoops, take all those risks when he can easily find someone younger? If you are a super charming and easy going person, perhaps.. But there are younger women who are super charming and easy going too. Someone with less or no options will be glad to take an older carreer women and will feel extremely lucky if she is super charming and easy going.. Question is, will she be genuinely happy with that man, given that that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/21 12:24 PM |
| 1 | To Even Out Gender/Race/Ethnicity Pay Gaps: Store ‘Suggests’ Higher Prices for White MenAsian people make more then all other race... Should they pay more then anyone else? Oh wait.. Yes.. At least they are consistent... Apparently sexism and racism only applies when white males are the ones doing it... Oh wait.. We should also put people from two parent households into higher tax brackets... Also tall people and kins of ritch families.. Beautiful people also make more money.. Yet an other sunny day in Wokeistan... | /r/MensRights | 29/12/21 11:44 AM |
| 2 | feminist gets ownedDidn't men invent the dishwasher though? | /r/AntiFeminists | 29/12/21 09:43 AM |
| 3 | Why am I not a feminist?(because remember, NONE of those things would have been possible without feminism!) More accurately, without the pill, the industrial revolution AND first wave feminism, which is btw nothing like the feminism we have today. | /r/AntiFeminists | 28/12/21 10:32 PM |
| 2 | Why am I not a feminist?She couldn't have those rights without the industrial revolution, the invention of the pill AND first wave feminism. The feminism we have today is something entirely different. She is not against equal rights and opportunities if you read her OP. She's against brainwashing women to beleive that they are victims. | /r/AntiFeminists | 28/12/21 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Why am I not a feminist?I think you should consider writing a book, you clearly have the talent for it and if your story is not the kind that's worth telling, i don't know which one is. Your story needs to be said and needs to be heard. There are millions of young women (and men) out there, looking for inspiration and purpose, they are the most vulnerable to the mindfuck feminism has become (and other corruptive ideologies). The victim mindset is far more appealing then taking incentives and responsibility for one's ow… | /r/AntiFeminists | 28/12/21 07:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: What is better to you, being given a chance or not wasting your time?Sure, i would go out with women who are not super into me as long as they don't insist on me paying the bills (if that's the case you kinda know what really is going on), hence i think it's a good thing that you are genuinely happy to go Dutch.. What is there to lose? In the worst case we had a boring talk and a second class meal/coffee, and will never talk again, but I am still richer with experience which is good value and worth it in any case. I don't think meeting with new people is ever a "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/21 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.What’s the point of saying you can refute your ban, if when you do, they say they aren’t reading it ffs. Nothing, it's just empty virtue signalling. The subreddits that are not echo chambers are few and far between, people usually come here to reinforce their views, not to challenge it, same as in real life. Something significant has to happen to you to be able to open up. This is a flaw in human nature and most of society is capitalizing on it, especially within social media. You will find that… | /r/MensRights | 28/12/21 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Like what? What are you talking about? | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 10:57 PM |
| 3 | Thoughts On The Men's Liberation Movement?We've been sold a warped view of history that misses well over half the picture. It's very true. Most people still beleive that there was a time when men systematically opressed women for their own benefit, but when you take off the modern filters and examine history from a gender neutral standpoint, things start to make better sense. Feminists claim for instance that women were not allowed on the streets without a chaperone and this was a manifestation of patriarchical oppression... Let alone t… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.No porblem at all, it's not even your bad. She was disingenuous from her first response. So convinced that she's right that never even considered what i said. Of course she won't let me respond not even link the full comment. Typical unfortunately... | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Well if cherry picking without context is a "good point", then i guess yes, they made a good point.. Here is the full comment though... https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/row2m9/thoughts_on_the_mens_liberation_movement/hq1l7tl?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Judge yourself. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 09:36 PM |
| 2 | What rights men do not have?It's not about rights. It's about biases and discrimination. Like for instance putting all the blame on men for Intimate Partner Violence when it's more then obvious that women are just as likely, if not more likely to be violent and contrary to the popular belief (one that i held myself till recently) women's violence is usually more serious since they tend to use potentially life threatening weapons (guns, knives, cars, gasoline and matches etc..), while men usually engage in bare handed viole… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 08:15 PM |
| 4 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Well, i think what you wrote is a bit too sophisticated for them, they must have lost you around the third sentence.. They probably thought it's a covert attack of some sort :D Honestly though, the way i see it, it does not matter what you write as long as it's not "feminist perspective"... Their "rules" are more flexible then a melted rubber band. A, slight disaggreement, the fact that you post/comment on the MRA subreddit and basically you are done for. The way i see it, it's not depending on … | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Id I'd love to see your response | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 05:40 PM |
| 3 | [Q4M] Why do manosphere men have such an aversion to being a stepfather?It's simply because usually you have to assume all responsibilities while having minimal authority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 03:04 PM |
| 2 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Talking about these issues doesn't make you a Marxist. These are relevant problems waiting to be solved (as the current "great resignation" shows). Whether you are or are not a Marxist, depends on the solutions you offer. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.I can call myself whatever, there will always be someone who is dissatisfied. Unfortunately most of our terms are smeared by now. The point is that by advocating for equal rights and opportunities, i am a feminist by their own definition, so calling me "not feminist" is unjustified. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 01:11 PM |
| 8 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Yes, it was explained better in the rest of the comment which - of course - she didn't quote. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 12:24 PM |
| 25 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Define feminism! | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 11:28 AM |
| 6 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why.Makes sense. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 11:22 AM |
| 9 | Why MRA struggles to find common ground with modern feminism? This is why... follow the rules I've asked you to define feminism. Go ahead. ... play the victim Don't be disingenuous, there's no point talking to you otherwise.. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 11:17 AM |
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