This article explaining why mothers killing their infants is a lesser crime is almost hard to believe

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2017-11-30T13:41:59+00:00

While murder carries a maximum term of life imprisonment, infanticide has a five-year maximum.

But it is believed no Victorian woman has ever been jailed for admitting a single count of infanticide.

Sentences have ranged from good behaviour bonds to lengthy community corrections orders

Men have been given longer sentences for being unable to pay more in child support than they earn.

Because you know, that's incredibly harmful to a child.

Gregorian_Tree · 2017-11-30T16:27:08+00:00

The tone is subtle, but it almost seems like they are celebrating the fact that we have this 'get out of jail free card' that we can pull out of our back pocket when women kill their infants.

This is just one more plank in the edifice where there's a second justice system for women than there is for men. You abandon a child as a father, you're a deadbeat and a cad. You abandon your baby as a mother, there's drop off locations or surrender options or adoption and no one will think the worse of you. You beat your child to death with your fists as a man, and you're in jail for murder. You beat your child to death with your fists as a woman, and you're released on a community bond for infanticide.

Any chance to rationalize and excuse the behaviour for the specific circumstances for women are taken. Any chance to rationalize and excuse the behaviour for the specific circumstances for the man are ignored.

We have a society where half of us have responsibility, and the other half have excuses.

Blutarg · 2017-11-30T17:00:04+00:00

Gosh, society sure does hate women, doesn't it?

JohnKimble111 · 2017-11-30T19:40:24+00:00

Please use an archive for misandrist content.

Darddeac · 2017-11-30T16:34:21+00:00

Savaging is the behavior of swine.

KinglyWeevil · 2017-11-30T16:37:21+00:00

Edit: I'm appending this from another later comment, because it adds context to what I'm saying since this is such an unpopular opinion on this subreddit.

All people should be forgiven for temporary aberrant behavior away from their baseline. We focus far too heavily on punishment, and not enough on preventing things from happening by giving attention to the circumstances and needs of citizens.

Women are not crazy. People are crazy. In general. I'm not saying to judge women less harshly than men. I'm saying to judge everyone less harshly across the board.

One of the things that really bothers me about this subreddit is that it never focuses on, "society should lighten up on men, and treat us more how it treats women." It's always, "it's bullshit that society doesn't treat women as shitty as it treats men, everyone should be treated as shittily as we are."

It's fucked up. But I think we should take a moment to consider the hormonal state a post-birth woman can be in. If a woman already has emotion regulation issues because of her hormones, birth can send them over the edge. It's not their fault, really. You're responsible for acting on your feelings, but you're not responsible for having them, you know? But when any feelings are really extreme, you can come detached from reality and do horrible things. And that, really, isn't an individual's fault.

An infant death is something I never want to see. But punishing someone that acts out of post-partum depression extremely harshly accomplishes nothing.

The key with this, as with so many other things, is huge doses of prevention. Checks with new mothers. Mental health evaluations. Home visits, maybe.

I'm a lifelong sufferer of mental health issues, so I guess I empathize with being betrayed by my brain.

Title	This article explaining why mothers killing their infants is a lesser crime is almost hard to believe
Author	BlueOrange22
Upvotes	149
Comments	20
Date	November 30, 2017 8:43 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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