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Three arrested over boy's circumcision in Nottingham

JohnKimble111

June 22, 2017
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Title Three arrested over boy's circumcision in Nottingham
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 130
Comments 107
Date June 22, 2017 4:55 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
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Comments

[–]PIG_CUNT 62 points63 points64 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The boy's mother believes circumcision amounts to MGM, or "male genital mutilation"

Notice how the media frames it as her BELIEF that cutting off part of his penis is mutilation?!

It's like saying "The boy's mother believes killing him amounts to murder."

It's not a belief! It is what it is.

This kind of subtle reframing of things is widespread and affects people's perceptions. Sad that the media perpetuates the idea that male genital mutilation isn't mutilation, and that calling it what it is, is just a belief some weirdos have.

[–]ThirdTurnip 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes they weren't subtle about that but by publishing this story they bring the issue into the public eye.

I read this as a pretty positive piece.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

How would you structure that sentiment while crediting it to the mother?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just don't see how to write it better. i dunno.

[–]PIG_CUNT 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

If her baby son had been stabbed to death, would you not see how to write it better than "The boy's mother believes killing him amounts to murder, and is "inhumane"."?!

Of course it amounts to murder. That's what intentional killing is.

Of course circumcision of girls amounts to genital mutilation. That's why we call it that.

And of course circumcision of boys amounts to genital mutilation. But most of the mainstream media and society don't call it that because sadly it's still a common practice that is mostly socially acceptable.

AND, if you are strongly against male genital mutilation you mostly get called and regarded as a weirdo or even a misogynist(!!!) for it. Misogynist because if you want men to have equal rights, you must hate women(????). We've all seen it.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I mean, no?

Like the function of the sentence was to convey how the mom felt. even knowing that the death was a murder, I'm having trouble wording it better without simply using a direct quote. and she might not have said something quotable.

Also, generally, 'said' is to be avoided when there's no direct quote.

Maybe I'm drunk man fuck

[–]PIG_CUNT 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

  1. It would look ridiculous to say "The boy's mother believes killing him amounts to murder." They would never write that because SHE'D BE RIGHT. Killing IS murder.

Yet they don't do the same for what IS genital mutilation.

If the boy got held down and ass-raped would they write "The boy's mother believes the forced sodomy amounts to rape."?!?! NO! Because that's what it is.

This is no different: circumcision is genital mutilation.

  1. There is a direct quote. They acknowledge it when quoting her by putting "inhumane" in quotes, and citing other things she has said.

In fact, we KNOW she said "This is mutilation" and the author, instead of quoting her, chose to make circumcision look acceptable by saying "She BELIEVES it's mutilation" as if it's just an opinion.

We know she said it's mutilation because they QUOTE her as saying it in the next paragraph.

"my only hope is to raise awareness of MGM"

Now how evil is that? For her to say "This is mutilation" and for the author to say "She believes it's mutilation."?!

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

yeah there's a direct quote, but a lot of times the way people speak makes a direct quote unreasonable. that's what I meant, sorry.

like "dude nigga that shits insane" would be phrased as "he told reporters it was "insane.""

[–]PIG_CUNT 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

See my other comment for why they did it.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry, did you massively edit your post after I commented or am I going crazy?

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I took out a pointless and long paste of her other quotes. No need to repeat those. Sorry if it made you question your sanity! :)

[–]AnotherDAM 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While pondering this I came across a pretty decent write up that might help some women understand the potential harm a little better.

Peaceful Parenting

[–]asillyduck_ 30 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Complaining to the police didn't help. They (mother and son) needed an EU human rights lawyer and an MRA group to intercede FIRST. Sad that they are trying to make it look like she alone is in that belief. She isn't and this is step closer to people having to accept they have been mutilating their sons, and that they have been lied to as to why.

[–]JohnKimble111[S] 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Complaining to the police didn't help

Well it is Nottinghamshire police. They're the ones behind all this "misogyny as a hate crime" sexism. They must hate being forced to take on this case.

[–]asillyduck_ 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A certain C (moore) Dick of the police force probably does too.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great! It needs to stop.

[–]girlwriteswhat 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's still not okay. The gist of the case is that it is only GBH if the mother didn't consent to the procedure.

However, it IS a step in the right direction. If the case goes forward and the mother wins, there will be a precedent on record that circumcision constitutes GBH.

After that, it's a matter of consent alone.

This is like the difference between two boxers entering a ring and consenting to be battered, versus someone being punched in the face on the street without warning and for no reason. Boxers consent to GBH (at least in potential) when they enter the ring. That's why it's not a crime. Once it's been established that circumcision constitutes GBH, the only thing preventing it from being considered a crime is consent, and obviously the infant is not consenting.

[–]jaesharp 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's important to note the distinction that while parents can give permission for a medical professional to treat their child; they can never provide true consent on their child's behalf. I think things would get a lot simpler if that were the prevailing standard instead of today's commonplace mixing of the two concepts.

[–]dolandoes 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

saw this earlier via @Femitheist on Twitter.

glad to hear.

[+]fuckyourrules20-6 -20 points-19 points-18 points 9 years ago* (92 children) | Copy Link

Need more posts on circumcision, multiple posts a day aren't enough for OP'a agenda.

/s

Edit: lol at the guys attempting to shame me, you can't shame someone who doesn't give a fuck who you are or the opinion that you hold.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link

Oh no the agenda of preventing infant genital cutting. How dastardly

[+]fuckyourrules20-6 -17 points-16 points-15 points 9 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link

Agenda of control, overstepping boundaries on decisions that parents make after after talking with a doctor. Once you are a parent you can make all the decisions you'd like instead of making it for others. Dumbass armchair quarterbacks

People complain about reposts and this isn't any different.

[–]SaigaFan 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link

absolutely barbaric attitude.

[+]fuckyourrules20-6 -11 points-10 points-9 points 9 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link

So when I need more diapers for my baby you'll be going to the store and getting them for me? Or if I need a babysitter you're gonna take care of that?

Oh what's that, you only wanna pick and choose where you get to overstep your boundaries to tell me how to raise my children? Sorry dude, you get all the responsibility or none, that's why parents decide instead of cry babies on the net.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 28 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link

Right, no you are 100% correct. My girlfriend is deaf and I'm basically blind. I want my daughter to be like me and my wife wants the same.

Next week were removing her eardrums and scratching her corneas.

My child my choice

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

If they legally allow that procedure in your country, then have at it dude. I'm making my son into a great man, you can turn your baby into a deaf hairless genital-less thing if you want. But I'm guessing you have no kids and thus your opinion matters little aside from talking on the internet about it, lol.

You also seem to really have an issue with personal freedoms. Welcome to America, I choose my child's future, not you, not your preacher, not your dog, not the guy who makes your sandwiches, me.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

So your son doesn't have a right to his body cause you say so?

And there is nothing intrunsicly wrong with modifying your child's body?

Wow you are sadistic. Will you show your son these posts if he ever asks why you cut off part of his penis?

Will you tell him it's because you own him? Will you tell him that it wasn't illegal, so you did it?

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Lol! Try forming your opinions without attempting to shame or put down others, you'll be amazed what self reflection will occur.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

Ok, why are you cutting your child's genitals?

[–]Greg_W_Allan10 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because he's a sadistic paedophile.

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The hospital performed the operation as requested after birth. It's what both the parents agreed on.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho14 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why did you request the doctor cut your child's genitals?

[–]fuckyourrules20-62 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No reason would satisfy the brigade of uncut circle jerking going on here so there's no real point in getting into the details.

The parents agreed and that's all that matters. Yes, shockingly none of your opinions were taken into account and we didn't get your signature on the form

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho14 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You're the one who said to stop the insults/guilt tripping and stay on point. then you immediately back off?

You smell like a troll m8. in fact, all you fucking do is post on porn subs and argue about MGM on here, but you don't want to explain yourself? yeah. troll.

Have a nice day.

[–]fuckyourrules20-62 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Guess what, I stopped caring hours ago.

And yes smart man this isn't my main account, I wouldn't risk the exposure to the real trolls who post about circumcision all day when they come across a dissenting opinion. I've been nothing but civil besides my last few posts and got nothing but shat on all day.

But please do cry because I called this exactly what it is: circle jerking, piling on and just patting yourselves on the backs like white knights when you've accomplished nothing.

Keep your crocodile tears k?

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho13 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Like I said, you have an account for nothing but talking about forskin and porn, yet you don't want to explain yourself. You're trolling.

You got caught nigga. move on.

[–]fuckyourrules20-62 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The point is no reason would suffice for any one of you, so there's no reason to discuss it.

You want to argue on and on. All my kids are cut and I couldn't be happier with the decision.

Don't like it? I don't care. In fact I care less than any of you could even imagine.

[–]nugymmer9 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why didn't you cut you daughters too?

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho8 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't want to discuss forskin but I made an account to do nothing but talk about forskin.

[–]nugymmer5 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I've been nothing but civil besides my last few posts and got nothing but shat on all day.

Civil?

That's not how you treated your sons genitals. You agreed to have them mutilated. Nothing civil about that at all. Oh yes, I can swear my head off but at least I don't arrange to have a kid's sex organs mutilated!

[–]fuckyourrules20-62 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Again, you need tissues for all those crocodile tears?

[–]nugymmer9 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nah. You're the one who mutilated your sons genitals. You need the tissues.

www.foreskinfunction.org

There you go. Lists all the functions - one of the most important is sexual pleasure. Go and read it.

[–]nugymmer7 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Uh, ok, so if the parents agree and that's all that matters, what do you have to say about female genital mutilation?

Go on, tell us. What do you have to say about FGM being "agreed on" by both parents to mutilate their daughters.

If female circumcision was legal would you support the parents' choice to circumcise their daughter(s)?

I bet you wouldn't...that makes you a fucking hypocrite. Oh and I bet you are pro-abortion too. Even more hypocrisy.

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You are correct that i am pro woman's rights, no woman should be forced keep a pregnancy and have a child be born if they don't want to.

You probably don't understand that personal rights trump parasitical rights. Full stop, see that clear statement?

No baby gets to control the mothers body without her permission, they are 100 dependent on her body and thus have no personal rights themselves.

But tell me more about how free rights you are, yet are doing nothing here besides telling people they need to follow your orders and what you think is correct.

Talk about hypocrisy! Which you so foolishly tried to label me with, pathetic.

[–]nugymmer5 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You're pro choice yet you couldn't respect your son's choices to decide what happens to their own fucking genitals. Yes you are a hypocrite.

Personal rights do trump parasitic rights. Like the right of a baby boy to have his fucking penis left alone by parasitic "doctors" making profits from this unnecessary and extremely cruel practice.

You are not pro choice you are pro abortion. Accept that much is true.

[–]fuckyourrules20-60 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You can be have whatever position you'd like (though FYI you're coming off like an Alex Jones fanatical type with your last comment about doctors making profits -hilarious).

I have stated my opinion clearly. You can disagree, because America is great like that. But that doesn't change anything, because you only get to control what's on your side of the keyboard.

[–]nugymmer3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You are NOT pro choice because you DENIED your own sons the choice over what happens to their genitals. You don't care about freedom because you literally took that freedom away from your own children. If they wanted to cut their penises they could always choose to do it later on.

And yes, infant genital mutilation is mostly based on profits, why else would the cosmetics industry be using foreskins in their skin creams?

[–]nugymmer2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If a man doesn't have the right to decide what happens to his genitals then neither should a woman. That has been my whole fucking point all along.

You've got two choices here. Either circumcision is banned or abortion is banned.

Can't have it both ways.

CHILDREN SHOULD EXPECT THAT THEIR FUCKING GENITALS WILL BE LEFT ALONE. THAT IS A BASIC FUCKING HUMAN RIGHT. IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.

[–]fuckyourrules20-60 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Do you see how absurd you sound?

Pick one right or the other, you can't have both!

I have both choices, thank you America

Grab the tissues box and head to your safe space if you don't like it.

[–]nugymmer5 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Pick one:

1/ You have the right to control what happens to your body (that includes choosing whether you want to cut your own penis or not)

2/ You do not have the right to control what happens to your body because your parents can cut your penis without your consent.

Pick one. I am being consistent.

The right to choose DOES NOT include the right to cut someone else's penis, except your own.

Got it?

[–]nugymmer1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you are pro rights then what gives YOU the right to mutilate your son's genitals?

Why should I care what YOU think when you couldn't even respect the basic human rights of your own children to the genitals that they were born with?

As I said again, you are the hypocrite. You talk about bodily autonomy yet you couldn't even respect your son's genitals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]nugymmer9 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So if you both agreed on cutting your baby daughter's genitals, that would be OK too?

Go fuck yourself. People like you are a dying breed.

Fuck off.

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Thanks, nice opinion. My children, young and old - would disagree

[–]nugymmer11 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you and your partner agreed with cutting your daughter's genitals, would that make it acceptable?

Nah.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate8 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why did you request it?

[–]nugymmer 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You also seem to really have an issue with personal freedoms.

You seen to really have an issue with genital integrity and basic human rights of a child to have the healthy genitals he was born with.

Freedom does not mean freedom to cut a baby's penis - unless there is a medical diagnosis and even then it's controversial.

Most instances of genital cutting have fuck all to do with health and more to do with some egotistical arrogant idiot thinking that their son's penis is their property.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice opinion, anything else?

[–]nugymmer 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You talk about freedom. That also includes freedom FROM traumatic and degrading practices like circumcision.

[–]Kuramo 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Welcome to America

That says everything. The country where cutting baby penises is still taken with a positive view, because "mah freedom"

[–]DrDarkMD 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, if I want to carve a swastika into my childs face, it’s my right!

Don’t tell me how to raise my boy!

[–]DrDarkMD 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But I'm guessing you have no kids and thus your opinion matters little aside from talking on the internet about it, lol.

Lol, yeah I don’t own any Nuclear weapons so I keep my views on them to myself, what do I know about Nuclear War? Could be a good thing, but until I have my own personal one there’s no way of telling.

You also seem to really have an issue with personal freedoms. Welcome to America,

Oh fuck, you actually believe that “land of the free” bs! Lol.

I choose my child's future, not you, not your preacher, not your dog, not the guy who makes your sandwiches, me.

Lol, you actually believe that as well! Yeah, it’s not like the Government mandates vaccines, educational syllabus, the payment of taxes etc, no it’s all on you mate, lol. You’re the only one that matters, lol.

I'm making my son into a great man

Poor kid.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for your opinion.

I'm pleased at how upset you all are hearing about my kids, lol lonely guys on the internet bitching at guys who have families.

Like I said, have your own family (but then again that would require you attract a female, which I'm sure is a whole 'nother matter of issues for you), then you can be the man and make the decisions. Good luck!

FYI: everyone listing that they 'feel sorry' for some reason or another, thanks for the laugh as my kids have spectacular lives - shows how little you know, and how much not having your foreskin has affected your poor lives, you must have had shitty parents.

[+]HasAnArchmageFetish points 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh what's that, you only wanna pick and choose where you get to overstep your boundaries to tell me how to raise my children?

This is how we can tell that your children are going to be fucked up as adults.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Or they're just that much better than you, and you can't help but be jelly.

[–]DrDarkMD 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hmmm, so you think changing a babies shitty nappy is the equivalent of cutting off a body part at birth. Wow.

Feel sorry for your kid.

[–]nugymmer 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Overstepping boundaries? Who the fuck are you to tell me that people trying to stop infant genital mutilation is overstepping boundaries?

I'll tell you WHO is overstepping boundaries...it's the parents who think their son's fucking dick belongs to them and that they can cut their son's penis like it's a piece of property.

Parents absolutely have the right to make medical decisions for their children. But cutting off healthy genital tissue WITHOUT a medical justification IS NOT one of them.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Need a box of tissues?

[–]nugymmer 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you even bother to read my arguments? Nope.

Fuck off. You are the one overstepping boundaries. And if anyone in my family did that to a baby I'd kill the sick fuck who cut my baby nephew's penis with my own bare hands.

[–]Eryemil 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link

What are you doing on this subreddit exactly? Did you somehow miss the name?

This is a community concerned with the human rights of men and boys, not a place where the only injustice and discrimination we are allowed to address are the ones that you think are important.

We get it, you mutilated your son(s) and are obviously defensive. Guess what, so did thousands of other people that have come to regret violating their son's right and now work against the practise. It's painful to admit you made a mistake you can't take back---that's an understatement. But don't get a pass for being an asshoke forever or trying to undermine the work we're doing to protect children. The bar is set so low that one can't say we're asking for too much. Saying "I cut off a part of my son's body and wouldn't do it again would be nice" but just refraining from posting excrement like the above would be enough.

[–]nugymmer 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Some people have too much pride to admit they fucked up.

If anyone paid one of those sick fucks who run private circumcision "clinics" in Australia to mutilate my future baby nephew's penis I'd literally stop at nothing to kill whoever it was who took my sister's money to mutilate her boy. I'd be more than happy to do jail time to make sure that so-called "doctor" paid for what he did - and I'd probably mention a few other victims (one of my acquaintance's son was mutilated by one here on the NSW Central Coast).

If my sister paid him to mutilate my baby nephew I'd find a way to make him pay, make no mistake about it.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, threatening violence - you are such a good example of this threads approach to anyone who doesn't agree to bow to the mighty foreskin

[–]nugymmer 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Threatening and indeed even using violence to protect babies and children from genital mutilation is perfectly acceptable to me.

[–]DrDarkMD 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry you were cut, mate.

Honestly, it doesn’t make you less of a man.

It’s your attitudes that do that.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link

Lol put more words in my mouth and project harder please.

Completely happy with the choice, in fact if we decide to have another child and it's a boy, he will be circumcised as well.

I'm subscribe to men's rights, so that's how I was exposed to this thread. And I randomly looked at OP post history and noticed dozens upon dozens of posts he's created about circumcision, so yeah I called him out as a repeat poster - poking fun at his incessant need to push his view.

[–]Thinkmoreaboutit 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rape and mutilation of baby boys is incompatible with mens rights.

[–]Eryemil 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

I'm subscribe to men's rights [...]

Then it shouldn't come as at surprise that posts about male genital mutilation reach our front page; it's part of our platform and has been from the very beginning.

Which once again, begs the question, what the fuck are you doing here?

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

You are the problem with this sub, if people don't bow to the foreskin pledge then they're bad mouthed by you neck beards.

You aren't important, foreskin isn't important, and certainly there is no 'platform' on circumcision other than grown men acting like children complaining on a sub on Reddit.

You humiliate the entire gender with your crocodile tears and attempts to gain attention by using word like torture and rape which make your whole dialogue a joke. Act like a man.

[–]Eryemil 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've been a contributing member of this community for six years and been an activist for even longer. When exactly did you become an MRA?

Are you actually saying that ending genital mutilation is not part of the MR platform? Have you even read the sidebar; do you visit any other MR-relevant sites? There's only like a dozen articles about it on AVFM.

And did you honestly just tell someone else to man up? Seriously... You're not an MRA and you don't belong here.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good thing I care more about men's rights then pleasing you or the dumbass brigade. So I'll just continue doing exactly what I want. Thanks!

[–]Eryemil 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever.

[–]aonome 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

foreskin isn't important

Spoken like someone that has never had one past infancy. I actually feel sorry for you, you'll never know what sex is meant to feel like. Please don't do that to your son.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (28 children) | Copy Link

You can stuff your sorrys in a sack, your attempt to guilt trip bs crocodile tears crap, it will not work on anyone with half a brain. I have had all my kids circumcised since birth, and zero issues with all of them.

Instead, go help them babies you care so much about, are you volunteering? Donating? Oh what's that, you're doing nothing but white knighting on Reddit talking about it? 🙄

[–]aonome 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

I have actually been involved with activism in my country.

You're losing. One day the mutilation of children will stop. Given the change in attitudes, at least your children will know better than you.

[–]fuckyourrules20-6 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

You can assume anything you want, you don't have to get circumcised or have your kids done. That's your right to choose, in America the right will always be. Don't like it? Tuff cookie rights stomper

[–]aonome 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

No, that won't always be how it is in America. You are violating his bodily autonomy.

Should FGM be legal in America? That is the logical conclusion of your argument.

[–]fuckyourrules20-60 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You keep wanting to argue and fight. I have made my choice.

Also, trying to compare female circumcision (which is barely practiced anywhere), to male circumcision (which is widely practiced), is stupid to begin with.

Once again, don't get circumcised if you don't want to, simple! And no - you don't get to choose for me, thanks America!

[–]aonome3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Apparently your kids never got a choice. Sad.

By the way, FGM is widely practised. Either way, how often something occurs doesn't magically change the morality of it.

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Not widely practiced in my country, we can't control the world. My family will just have to keep moving forward without your moral approval.

Seriously though - I'm guessing we'll need to join a support group or something soon, to treat the depressed feeling we'll be having once I let my family know of your moral disapproval. /s

[–]aonome3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Since MGM rates are rapidly falling in America, you're losing :)

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't need to 'win', unlike you I'm not about controlling other people's choices. Deal with your authoritative shit, as you apparently can't understand others get choices that don't involve you somehow.

[–]aonome3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That's the point. Your children never had a choice because of you. You're a sick man.

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You are making a point, it just doesn't matter. Have your own kid, then it will matter. Your life, your kid, your choice.

I am not sure what you are even trying to argue on for, you have an opinion - congrats?

Lol no one but your circle jerk buddies here with similar crocodile tear foreskin withdrawal issues care.

[–]aonome2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Clearly they do since the backlash is growing.

Your reaction here has been very angry. There is no need to be upset.

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Lol! I'm losing? Be mad? That's the best you have! Have I been talking to a child the whole time unknowingly?

I am making a mockery of you, incase you are too dense to read between the lines. Sorry if your brain interprets anger when it can't understand things, cave men syndrome must be a bitch to deal with.

I'm laughing at your replies (not just you, whole subs replies), my wife even walked by and got a good chuckle in too- told me to tell you guys that "republican conservatives can kiss our asses" - haha, her words.

Anyway hope you're having a pleasant day!

[–]aonome2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

republican conservatives

They are the last people that would stop MGM.

Stay mad though :)

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Lol! Stay young and foolish while you can, buck 'a roo!

When you grow up you'll understand.

[–]aonome2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

heh kid

I guess this got under your skin more than I thought :)

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You got marked a kid when you tried to use the lamest "mad bro?" attempt ever. Keep crying about your foreskin snowflake

[–]aonome2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And yet you still reply :\<sup>)</sup>

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes, I'm still laughing at you, keep digging boy! Lol

[–]aonome2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

How old are you?

[–]PowerToAnnihilate2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

be sure to show your son all these posts when he asks why he is missing part of his penis.

[–]fuckyourrules20-61 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Drama queen, ask your parents how many times they dropped you on your head.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I am literally stating what happened to him... How is that being a drama queen. BTW you still have yet to say WHY you cut your son in the first place lol

and want to talk drama? You started this whole thing by saying that circumcision is no big deal to men who think it is. What did you think would happen?

[–]nugymmer1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This guy is pro-abortion too, which really makes a mockery of his pathetic argument that his son's penis shouldn't belong to his son but instead as a piece of fucking property.

If this guy was my brother I would have whacked his head in with a brick without so much as the slightest hesitation. Seriously I would have killed him.

[–]fuckyourrules20-60 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I knew exactly the overreaction that would occur with you foreskin zealots, why I'm not posting from my main. Even then your line of questioning is both moronic and infantile, does your mom show you her old posts where she considered aborting you? Probably not.

And I too am just stating what happened, how many times were you dropped as a baby? Was it hard floored? Oh it was granite you say? That's hard stuff.

[–]PowerToAnnihilate2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I knew exactly the overreaction that would occur with you foreskin zealots,

you mean "people who value their entire body" lol

why I'm not posting from my main.

because you are a coward?

And I too am just stating what happened, how many times were you dropped as a baby?

2 less times than the log of your IQ.

[–]nugymmer1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What can I say?

http://media.buzzle.com/media/images-en/gallery/symbols/hand-gestures/900-476890583-the-finger-hand-gestures.jpg

Oh and your screen name is great. Fuck YOUR rules. It's NOT your dick, it belongs to your SON.

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