Truth bomb

grasshopa · 2019-07-26T15:09:45+00:00

I'm not here to protect anyone but my child. Nor would I respect a partner who felt she were such a delicate flower as to need my protection.

I get the intent behind the meme, but it's still off. Men's value should never be couched in terms of their utility to others.

DescendingFire · 2019-07-26T15:47:14+00:00

It's men who aren't masculine who are toxic.

Fuck you

headingtoshore · 2019-07-26T15:32:27+00:00

So I see a lot of this

hey guys, let's just all agree to call these large hulking brutal men 'weak' or 'pussies' just because we assume that those are insults they will particularly dislike

But face it, weakness is not the issue here. The problem is unrestrained force, undisciplined strength.

These men, by and large, have been raised and educated exclusively by women. Women who told them 'girls are just as strong as boys" which of course means 'boys are just as weak as girls'. Women who told them 'Women can do anything men can do" which of course means 'men can not do anything women can't do".

Well, in reality women are quite weak compared to men, and they rely on this fact to do many things men can not, or should not do.

If a woman gets a little upset, she can just let the rage flow through her, she can entirely succumb to it, lash out violently, put her whole force behind it. She can slap a man with impunity, throw things at him, ball up her tiny little fists and pound on him, all the while relying on his strength, his self control, he won't just squash her like a bug.

these men had only such examples to learn from, they saw their mothers and sisters rage out, they listened when these women told them 'that man ain't shit, look he didn't do shit, I beat his ass' they did not say 'look son, because I am a woman, no man will hit me back, he would kill me, one punch and I would be crying like a baby, if i were not just in a coma'.

These men are not weak, they are just clueless, they are 'fashion victims' they fell for the meme - women are strong.

All their lives they have seen violent women just raging at men, and they have heard the women berate and insult those men, and say how they were pussies. So they decided to become the kind of man their mothers would respect, a strong man that don't take nobodies shit.

Unused_UserID · 2019-07-26T17:42:01+00:00

Men who think they have to protect women are the toxic ones, we call them white knights.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-07-26T19:36:02+00:00

Kinda plays into the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. If you think only goodness exhibited by men is "true masculinity" then we're no different from feminists who conveniently omit the evil done by women.

ExpendableOne · 2019-07-26T20:27:00+00:00

Not only is this completely wrong/false, but it's literally just more of the same type of mentality that brought us "toxic masculinity" in the first place. Most "weak" men do not abuse women, and there are certainly a lot of "strong" men who do. Belittling and vilifying men to don't live up to some personalized standard of masculinity is exactly what the concept of "toxic masculinity" aims to do.

anonymous_troll · 2019-07-26T23:42:40+00:00

Man, fuck that shit. I don't need anybody telling me about my masculinity who doesn't apparently know a god damn thing about masculinity. I was taught how to shoot, fish, hunt, camp, navigate, and take care of myself from the time I was a kid. I was taught manners and all of that.

I am surrounded by a generation of cunty men and women who didn't learn any of that and are struggling to cope with their bullshit lack of knowledge.

I don't need to protect and love a cunt and her crotch-fruit to be a man. I sure as fuck don't need Lisa Simpson being photoshopped to explain some memer's view of masculinity to me.

If you want to learn how to be a man go live. Climb a fucking mountain, have your guy friends tell you that a hat looks way too gay and own it (really own it) or take it off. Drink a beer without being explained what the fuck is in the beer, and talk about something that doesn't fucking involve women. Kill an animal and eat it. Learn how the shit in your home is made and repair it.

ausgamer529 · 2019-07-26T23:05:25+00:00

And there is a lack of women who love and cherish men and the sacrafices they make.

goodmod · 2019-07-27T04:23:54+00:00

Although this is a good post, the title does not say enough about its subject. This forces people to click and read before they can decide whether they are interested. It also makes searching impossible.

If everyone did this, the subreddit would become unusable. Moreover, it means that your post will fail to reach some readers because they won't know what it's about.

So please don't do it in future. Take the time to describe your link, and save the time of hundreds of other people.

When making a title, it's best to assume the reader doesn't know what you're talking about - but don't go overboard with every detail. Then check if there are any words you can cut out without losing any important information.

Pornisnotsex · 2019-07-26T18:06:56+00:00

This is bullshit. Those little men have often been abused by their fathers or mothers, with either of them as bystanders. The fault is in individualism. The lack of community standing up to abusers, both male and female abusers, and victimizing children in the process. The isolation of an individual that often is already there before the abuse.

Most men don't go out and think 'let me go abuse a woman'. Most men don't know when they abuse. In very many cases rapists don't even know they raped a woman. Why not? Because this is what they have seen from a young age. Not in a sexual aspect, but in every other aspect. Noone has shown them the concept of respecting boundaries, setting out boundaries and the value of standing your ground. If a woman is quiet when a man steps on her, in any way and it happens over and over again and she never complains. Then the child (whether it's a girl or a boy) will take that no refusal equals consent.

As a woman who has been abused by her parents, ex and bullied. And who has confronted her abusers I propose we stop telling blind people to look at the road. It's stupid and doesn't solve anything. And whether you are an abused woman or not, you are responsible for raising your children. So man the fuck up and be a parent. And make those hard decisions. That's where society fails. Not parenting your kids and not taking the time to teach your kid social skills and basic interaction.

Antogonissimus · 2019-07-26T15:47:51+00:00

I don't what all of you want, but what this meme wants is not what I want. I think machos are toxic and harmful. The idea that men have to protect women/children and be strong is what is toxic. What I want is more equality in society and I see both women and men struggling with getting it.

Men should not have to be strong. They should just be able to live their lives in peace, happiness and get help when they feel down. Sadly, men are still treated as stone without feelings. Being told to be strong and "man up". That is what is toxic.

So I am exactly the opposite of what the meme thinks should be the norm.

AEHIILRS · 2019-07-26T22:26:00+00:00

Ah. No. No more, thank you. I've had an elegant sufficiency.

Title	Truth bomb
Author	Saint-thowaway
Upvotes	29
Comments	17
Date	July 26, 2019 3:07 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ci40rl/truth_bomb/
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