Why the hate?

63daddy · 2021-09-06T21:33:49+00:00

In an incredibly gynocentric culture, men’s rights and issues go against the grain.

Related, the feminist propaganda machine opposing men’s issues is huge. Goebbels would be proud. Consider almost every college has dozens of women’s studies courses pushing the feminist agenda and bad mouthing men’s issues. Under pressure many social media sites ban or limit discussion of men’s issues. Celebrities who question feminist propaganda can find themselves blackballed. Feminist organizations spend millions lobbying for anti-male policies and practices.

I haven’t seen her movie yet, but I’ve seen some videos of Cassie Jaye that I think are very representative of what’s going on. People are just so overwhelmed with women’s issues everywhere and feminist propaganda, they can’t help but form negative impressions about men’s issues despite not really knowing what these issues really are. There are many examples of former feminists supporting men’s rights, once they actually get that MRAs are actually fighting for the gender equality feminists claim to be about.

AndyBrown65 · 2021-09-06T22:30:43+00:00

People hate what they can’t understand and hate what they are told to hate. Feminism is a hate movement that hates being challenged and MRAs are the thorn in their side by saying “there are injustices happening to men as well that need to be fixed, can we talk about them?”

manbro7 · 2021-09-06T23:13:06+00:00

Anyone supporting that equality should go both ways is seen as a huge problem and causes outrage, because the massive misandry is seen as the normal treatment for men. Kinda like a "this is what men deserve anyway" thing, and causes problems or attacks if men want normal human treatment too.

Notice how only Talibans and extremist countries brush aside or sneer at the idea of women having similar rights, and look at what's happening in the majority of the western world. It's usually men being silenced and thrown under the bus. The horrible death and suicide statistics are not a joke or a coincidence. Women's suicide in Taliban apparently is the same as any Western society, they're treated with as much value and respect as men. Look at who's unable to even talk about their own gender's issues to find who's being actively oppressed. Men still lack certain rights ffs, none that women lack.

Feminists hate men. They are obsessed with emotional manipulation, fear mongering, and treats legal issues with a constant anti-male bias. Radfems run for power just to discriminate against men. This needs repeating, feminists LOVE emotional manipulation and logical fallacies to get what they want. Painting the "enemy" or men by any bullshit manipulative means possible is a pretty common tactic for them.

TrilIias · 2021-09-07T00:20:34+00:00

The overwhelming majority of people are either feminists or traditionalist conservatives. Most political tension around gender issues is between these two. Meanwhile, MRAs criticize both. Both sides despise us, especially the feminists.

reddut_gang · 2021-09-07T02:02:23+00:00

they hate equality lol

DavidByron2 · 2021-09-06T21:21:01+00:00

Feminism is an anti-male hate movement so that's most of the source I would think.

Or do you mean why do people hate in general? Presumably an evolutionary advantage to small tribal groups treating outsiders like a threat, but insiders as people to co-operate with.

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2021-09-06T21:06:15+00:00

A lot of people think MRAs are the same as the sexists from MGTOW and other incel communities.

TheSilverShade · 2021-09-07T11:05:38+00:00

They always need a scapegoat. First it was the incels sub, then MGTOW, now seems like they're aiming at Men's Rights.

Any excuses to silence men focused subreddits.

adoctorswife · 2021-09-07T02:50:52+00:00

In my younger days when I was a feminist I thought that men’s rights were anti women’s rights. I had a hard time acknowledging that men’s rights aren’t anti women at all but rather just focused on men’s issues and struggles. The media will take the worst examples of men’s rights activists and act like the represent the majority rather than acknowledging that one sick individual doesn’t reflect the same majority.

aigars2 · 2021-09-07T05:59:42+00:00

Didn't you know. Men can't be victims. Men have no life, social problems. There's no discrimination against men. Men and boys can't be raped. Mutilate a boy is fine. /S

goingoverthatplace · 2021-09-07T04:46:11+00:00

I can't speak for everyone else on this forum, only myself, but I agree with many things that many people have said on this forum. The main reason I'm here is to raise awareness of the sentencing gap and to promote the idea of a new system where men and women are punished equally without bias. I want the racist and sexist statistically proven bias removed from sentencing internationally. I am essentially just a pro equal punishment person for the purposes of my activities on this account.

Some people say "there is a lot of misogyny here" but I feel that's an extreme exaggeration or just flat out lie.

A misogynist statement would be for example: "We think women should be punished more harshly than men". Which is clearly not the collective view here.

The general collective view here is "we think women and men should be punished equally". Which is clearly not a misogynist statement.

We are here to voice our disapproval of the evidently generally statistically harsher sentences for men internationally. This is a valid grievance and not a trivial one.

On very rare occasion this forum may get invaded by an extremely small number of people who promote discriminatory sexist or racist views (which also happens on other forums not related to men's rights issues, so this forum shouldn't be singled out) but that is against the forums policy so the forum is not to blame. I guarantee if someone came on here and made a post that said "women should be given longer sentences than men for the same crime" that post would get downvoted and removed.

So people that hate us have no valid reason to. This group promotes nothing unfair or dangerous. Violence promoting content is not allowed, discrimination is not promoted. Anyone who has a problem with us has a problem with what? The promotion of equal punishment? Well my message to those people is I'm sorry but I'm not sorry, I will not be made to feel ashamed for promoting basic equality. If a day ever comes where the sentencing gap and other forms of discrimination go away, then that will be the day where I will stop being an mra because there wouldn't be a logical reason to be one any more, and if discrimination ever comes back I'll start being an mra again until it goes again. If enough people start to be mra then the sentencing gap will go away so it's up to as many people as possible to essentially keep the verbal dissent against discrimination active.

iainmf · 2021-09-07T08:04:07+00:00

People see MRAs like they'd see a Millionaire Rights Advocate.

Millionaires don't need extra help. Any extra help given to millionaires is help taken from the poor. Anyone advocate for millionaires must be a terrible person.

IronJohnMRA · 2021-09-07T12:52:34+00:00

Because we're spoiling their fun. We ruin the good feelings they get by buying into lies. The truth hurts.

Selfmade_3127 · 2021-09-07T17:43:09+00:00

feminism is a rising fascist regime:

they use an imaginary, made-up, scapegoat conspiracy theory (called "The Patriarchy") to legitimize their discriminating actions (like the Nazis used an imaginary "Jewish World Conspiracy")
the promote their own supremacy ("the future is female")
they discriminate against one specific scapegoat group which is portrayed as the root of all evil = men (Nazis used Jewish people as scapegoats)
they force the government to create laws to get more and more advantages ... to funnel money from hard working men to unemployed women / single mothers

if we don't fight this ... men will end up in prison (like they already do when they can't pay child support) or in labor camps (or a light version of it where they just pull more and more taxes from men to pay an army of single mothers)

they need the hate to legitimize their unjust and inhuman measures and laws ... we must be portrayed as evil so they can pressure the government for more and more laws and money!

dontping · 2021-09-06T21:12:01+00:00

take a look at this sub. i’ve been browsing for about a week and too many posts and comments are reactions to radical feminists with just a splash of commentary on feminism. hardly anything about men’s rights just a lot of reaction to whatever women are saying

Title	Why the hate?
Author	Someguy32323v4
Upvotes	54
Comments	42
Date	September 6, 2021 4:54 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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