The problem with the MRM is that its members aren't willing to do what it takes to win. Many MRAs seem to be too concerned with "honor" and "fighting fair" than actually beating the feminists. These MRAs would rather lose to the feminists than beat them using political tricks.
Let's face it. Women are much more socially skilled than men. Men evolved to be strong, women evolved to manipulate men to achieve their needs. We've seen this time and time again throughout history.
The problem with "honor" and "fighting fair" is that these parts of the traditional male gender role are used as weapons AGAINST men. Men are expected to go to war and die for their country for their "honor," meanwhile the women get to stay home and look after the kids, safe and sound.
A great example of MRAs refusing to do what it takes to win was the "Rinsers" video posted recently. In the video, some women admit to using their looks to get men to pay for their bills and buy whatever they want for them. These women lie to men when they hint at having sex with them in the future, but admit that they never have any intentions of fulfilling what they are implying is going to happen.
This video was a clear example of women victimizing men. The men in this video WERE victims. But what do we see in the comments? "It was the man's fault." "It was totally voluntary." "I'm not willing to 'create a victim.'" Whether these assertions are true or not, this video is a great example of how men are victimized by women, and our users squandering the opportunity to point out the injustice of this.
The feminists are willing to do whatever it takes to win. We have to be willing to do the same, and not fall into the trap that they have created of "honor" (this is part of the traditional gender role they use to battle us). Don't fall into their game. Play to win, otherwise women will dominate men for the next 1000 years.
If you want to control somebody, you have to make them think they are in charge, meanwhile you are the one pulling the puppet strings. This is exactly what the feminists achieve when they play the victim role: they make men seem like men are in charge and "oppressing" them, so they can get freebies.
Men have to be seen as the victims, not women, if we are going to win this. There is no room for the idealism for simply having society recognize men and women as equals. This is an impossible goal. Men and women will never be equal in the eyes of society. There's going to be a winner and a loser... and in this case, the winner is the one who APPEARS to be losing.
We can advocate for equality. I'm not saying we shouldn't. But we should advocate for equality, while simultaneously saying that we are the underdogs.
In fact, men are the real victims in society. If we can't even realize this ourselves, nobody is going to care about us.
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Feminists don't have principles, they fight dirty and they fight to win.
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Tell that to Gandhi.
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Oh please. Two totally different situations. If we want to look at something closer to home, the Civil Rights Movement was a peaceful movement. The end of apartheid in South Africa was a peaceful movement. Those would be accurate analogies to what we're facing here. I don't quite know why the MRM is so infatuated with using analogies to Nazi Germany to describe what men in developed nations are experiencing right now.
Just because a few fringe radfems advocate the genocidal descruction of the male gender does not mean women of the world are going to suddenly forget why men are necessary components of society.
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They apparently didn't cover the period of time in which the Civil Rights Movement took place in your "history" lessons in school.
To be a bit more explicit, an isolated outbreak over racial persecution does not equate to an organized movement that began decades later.
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