You cannot be a mra and religious because sky daddy is gynocentric and hates men.

Chikaze · 2026-07-18T09:51:42+00:00

Being a real man is being whatever you want to be, unafraid of others opinions.

Kinexity · 2026-07-18T09:50:12+00:00

r.atheism broke containment again.

albrecbef · 2026-07-18T10:33:12+00:00

This brings unnessary dissagrement into mra. Its very possible to be a mra and religios, but neither all religios people are mra (/mra compatible), nor all mra religios or non religios.

We should invite religios people in espessaly since as you mentioned there are issues in many religions, that are important mra topics. And doctrin evolves over time, so that there is real Change for structural Change.

About your specific points:

Thats a Classic strawman, but If we boil it down, it could be translated into critisism towards the male provider role. This is already shifting in many denomimations, to less strict more equalized expextations. But i agree with you that there is allot of work there yet.
Another strawman, that i actualy dont realy unterstand. While there are text and passages that fit your description the all claim is straight up bs. I dont know your backround, so this might be a possible view from your certain angle, but furthering any discussion.
This is a (overgeneralised but) good point. Gay man are often viewed as literal monsters, while lesbians often only reach the Level of strangeness. But, i can only realy speak for (german-) christian culture, the things are changing, chatolic couples can get blessed in a certain way, and in the mainline protestant groups they can get married in many areas. But it is good to keep the pressure Up about this.
While this is a topic that is problematic (and happening in other Religions as well), the goal should not be to talk over the victims and judge them, but to try to shift genital mutilation into ages that can consent, and someday even bring them to see that the practice is arcaic and no longer relevant or necessary for the original purpose as a grude hygenic practice from the bronze age.
This would be a very practical Point to win muslim man over, that are often frustrated with Things Like these. If properly sourced and Adresse as friendly invitation to join the general cause, despite big differences about important topics like genital mutilation, they can convince people, and maby even win them over in topics they are originaly anti mra on.

ilcanebastardo · 2026-07-18T10:32:32+00:00

Please tell me that this Is satire

Trunk-Monkey · 2026-07-18T10:10:54+00:00

There are, literally, thousands of religions... and this guy is familiar enough with all of them to label all of religion as gynocentric.

In other words, you can't expect anyone to take you seriously when you make such sweeping generalizations.

MannerNo7000 · 2026-07-18T09:29:48+00:00

You should also add ‘conservative’ too.

Conservatives put women above men too.

Somobro · 2026-07-18T09:41:41+00:00

Look, I agree with you because religion is a tool of persecution, but it's definitely not gynocentric. I believe in the equality of the sexes and won't deny that men are discriminated against by most faiths in the way you describe but it would be intellectually dishonest of me to call religions, particularly abrahamic ones, gynocentric.

The level of dehuminasation shown towards women in abrahamic faiths especially is way more intense than what's shown towards men. They do force men into provider roles, and have little value for their lives if it means sacrificing them for the benefit of the faith, but they force women into almost literal slavery and view them as chattel a lot of the time. You also don't see any female priests (most denominations) imams or rabbis, so there's really no influence at the leadership level from women.

Intellectual dishonesty, echo chamber thinking and cherry picking is what put me off feminism. I don't want us to go down that same path.

Hyphalex · 2026-07-18T10:55:03+00:00

Every religion other than buddism wants men to be tax cattle.

Sandi_T · 2026-07-18T11:03:09+00:00

You're taking the wrong approach here in my opinion. Instead of deliberately trying to take an us-versus-them approach, try an honest one.

The Abrahamic religions are both misandric and misogynistic. Now we have something to work with!

It's misandric because it teaches men that they are entitled to a wife and children in they are good boys. What happens when they didn't get one? Of course they feel cheated, but not by god, by women. This is harmful to both sexes.
You are correct that gay men are attacked in these religions. But that's separate from lesbians. Lesbians are okay to them because the writers of these religions don't see lesbian relationships as one that excludes them.
So why target gay men? Because gay men don't reproduce. How are you to get more workers and soldiers from someone who doesn't make babies? You can't.

These religions are intended to control the masses. Both men and women. By trying to pit us against each other, you are feeding their machine.

All of this being said, I am very, very much in the side of ending all childhood genital mutilation. Circumcision is a barbaric, monstrous practice that I will never be silent about. It should be viewed with the same loathing and horror as FGM.

I don't buy into the idea that either sex's liberation must come at the expense of the other sex's. I believe that we, as the "common masses" should come together against the "higher authorities" who eagerly oppress us all.

Women should not get away with keeping men from equal time with their children, and men should not get away with rape.

If we wish to better our lives, we have a common cause. And it's not trying to play the "whose life is worse" game.

CaptainSure3494 · 2026-07-18T10:26:54+00:00

I am happy to be provider man this made me laugh, I am fine with what you called gynocentric

Title	You cannot be a mra and religious because sky daddy is gynocentric and hates men.
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Date	July 18, 2026 9:27 AM UTC (2 days ago)
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