Question for the bloopers

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-05-22T11:35:54+00:00

Removed for breaking almost every rule we have.

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-05-22T09:21:59+00:00

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KapteeniJ · 2020-05-22T09:25:33+00:00

How do you explain the fact that... [baseless conjecture follows]

Your conjecture is false is all I can really say. The only bit that one could maybe have an argument about is connection between crippling debt and welfare state, but I'd expect you should provide some sort of an argument about it, it's kinda unfair if I have to argue for both sides and then you could just claim I didn't put forth your best argument.

NarniaFox · 2020-05-22T09:36:36+00:00

If you make such broad statements, you should include more data and not just screenshots. Now you just want people to debate your points that you haven't proved to begin with.

jackdawson244 · 2020-05-22T09:12:42+00:00

Western society is doing just fine. Western countries are literally the most prosperous and powerful in the world and many economists believe that female empowerment is good for the economy. Also, violent crime rate is on decline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_drop

The idea that the western world is declining is nothing but fantasy. The western world will continue just fine and in fact, more and more countries will become "westernized".

The patriarchy has lost, genetic engineering and transhumanism will eventually make gender and race completely irrelevant. 50 years from now, we will be laughing at patriarchs, the same way that we laugh at other barbaric customs, like slavery.

Meritamen9 · 2020-05-22T10:59:14+00:00

I'm not BP but since I believe women shouldn't be restricted I will answer.

Where is the first image you shared from, it looks like daily mail.
I don't see how woman created this, it has also been increased by things men disproportionately vote for. Blaming something extreme complex on women's suffrage is nonsensical. https://www.investopedia.com/updates/usa-national-debt/
The countries with less children are all doing better than those with more. Feminism doesn't cause lower birthrates, development causes low birthrates. Feminism tends to follow development. The reason that developing countries have more kids is less birth control (something invented by men listening to the money not feminists) and no social security. This graph is also wrong Saudi Arabia has a much lower birthrate for example.

abaxeron · 2020-05-22T09:11:44+00:00

So, it wasn't society as a whole that took a turn and what came for women was a result? A lot of events happened outside "women's eliberation".

After the wars, a new whole idea developed - that of consumerism. It was a half century of catastrophic wars never heard before that habe changed the mentality, not women.

Women would have been the same habe they had the same rights along history.

And for all the men complaining, maybe take a look at how people lived before and your life now. You have the best living conditions in history, do something about that instead of complaining you did not die too early. So, be different than your ancestors and make use of your priviledged life.

SherbertBacon · 2020-05-22T09:44:56+00:00

Focus on explaining the decline of society, not on excusing its existence. I didn't come here for a moralist lecture.

From the looks of it, you didn't come here for anything intelligible at all.

completely derailed western society,

Hang on one sec.... yep, just looked out my window. I think we're fine.

destroyed societal cohesion?

Hang on one sec..... yep, social networks in my life look just as normal and thriving as ever.

So your conclusion is wrong, but is your premise?

the fact that giving women the right to vote, forcing them into the workforce and education system en masse, sexually liberating them, and encouraging their promiscuity has...

Last I checked, that's not a fact at all. You're on a debate forum. In a debate, propositions are expected to be supported with evidence. Otherwise you're doing what we call, in technical jargon, "talking out of your ass."

Relevant image 1

Nice photo of a story about one person making claims. Might be better to just link the article, and give us access to the actual source. I assume you perused this evidence yourself? Pored over the data?

Relevant Image 2, Relevant Image 3

Hmm, wait a second look at this! You don't think—no, it couldn't be!—cattle are destroying western civilization!

Damn, premise is also wrong. There's nothing to debate here because your proposal is so asinine and misinformed that I may as well just be playing chess with a pigeon.

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Title	Question for the bloopers
Author	jackdawson244
Upvotes	3
Comments	38
Date	May 22, 2020 8:55 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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