A long term solution to the clothing-imposed SMV problem

beachbloke · 2015-07-22T20:58:16+00:00

Style is what you make of it. Chad is chad whether he's in a wifebeater, dress shirt, or pink polkadotted pajamas. Its more important that you DGAF what you're wearing than it is picking the exact right thing.

ColonelMitchell · 2015-07-22T22:38:21+00:00

Lol I just visited teenmfa (I'm a teen) and its comprised of scrawny looking gayboys in skinny capris and hipster glasses. Fuck that.

francis_sandow · 2015-07-22T20:17:39+00:00

I can't tell you how glad I am your posted this in response to the swagger-jacking suggestion. I read the post, generally agreed with it, but didn't think it belonged here. The advice was generally good, but nothing like the ponder-over-the-day articles that I come to TRP for.

I think the 'shortcut' mentality is what separates this forum from others. When we are taking steps to improve our lives, some ways are more efficient than others, but the actions which are most helpful aren't shortcuts. They are concrete changes in our thinking and actions. Take lifting:

Lifting seems like a left-field starting suggestion for TRP, and yet it's often the first thing recommended to someone who has found this board, read the sidebar, and wishes to begin the journey. Why is it so critical though? Do we actually NEED to be cut? I mean, actually need the gainz to be better men?

In my opinion, no we don't.

But what we do need is dedication to improvement, commitment to change, and a desire to work steadily at something over time. As anyone who has looked into a real fitness program knows, there are no shortcuts to getting fit. Some programs show results more quickly than others, but all require solid, unshakable dedication. So in this case, lifting IS critical, because if you can't stay committed to self improvement, you'll never improve in any area of your life. So yes, let's leave the shortcuts to other boards, where they belong. They do have value, just not here.

fuckin_retard · 2015-07-23T01:23:26+00:00

MaleFashionAdvice is chock-full of hipster guys wearing high-water pants and ill fitting shirts. They look ridiculous. Read some GQ and some Details. Find inspiration in well dressed celebrities. Finally check out Pinterest "Men's Fashion", you'll find tons of cool looks there.

Username-_-2015 · 2015-07-22T22:42:03+00:00

I live in the united states and the men dress extremly bad. I always see them wearing a t-shirt and some basketball shorts or something of that manner. I'm like dude you're going on a date, put something else on! I dress fairly well and women really do like a man that dresses well, i get women coming up to me and saying, nice shoes, I love your blazer etc. After that I know they are intrested in me. A lot of people say that good cloths are expensive but that's not really the case. I like to wear custom fit skinny dress pants and i get them for about 30 dollars at h&m as if i were to get them custom made by tailor they would cost me 120-200 bucks for one pair. You should lift but you should also learn to dress yourself. I see tons of guys that try and dress themselves but end up wearing things that are two sizes two big and it makes them look heavier and not as clean looking, anyting that fits no matter how unmateched always looks good, instead of having a desinger shirt that is two sizes two big. Also women don't really know how much you spent on cloths, as long as it looks expensive and in trend, and makes you look good, they really don't care how much it cost. So gentlemen let's put down those 200 dollar jordans that only other men find impressive, women not so much!

DoctorWelch · 2015-07-23T15:47:44+00:00

Jacking style is all you can really do. Just like the how the Simpsons have already done every joke, someone has already warn everything and anything that looks good.

Don't jack any one person's style completely, but pick and choose what you like from various styles to make your own.

drallcom3 · 2015-07-22T23:14:56+00:00

I unsubscribed from MFA because their suggestions make you look like the perfect nice BB

sardinemanR · 2015-07-23T04:47:04+00:00

If you're stressing about clothes it means you haven't been in the gym enough and need to fix your fitness.

80% of men are out of shape. Nobody cares what clothing you're wearing (provided they're clean, not ripped, and wrinkle free). What they notice is if you're in shape.

Especially if we're talking about women. Sexual attraction is biological. And human beings were not born with clothes, and especially high end fashion labels. People stuck on animal furs for the longest time, and sheets of material after that for the longest time. No woman has developed a biological sexual attraction to DKNY or whatever random ass name that someone stuck onto some clothing.

But we do have attraction to fitness.

BPtoRP · 2015-07-22T21:37:58+00:00

One little known source of quick fashion advice I've been using is pinterest. Let's say you have beige jogger pants that you want to know what to wear on. You search on pinterest "beige joggers men" and you get pictures of the best minds of fashion trying to incorporate this item in their pictures. "Alright I have that black v-neck and white vans" and you're set. As you keep searching, you find items that you see a lot (i.e. match a lot of the clothes you already own) and you have your shopping list.

2015-07-23T04:28:44+00:00

Yeah, I could wear a $100 sweater. I could also spend $100 on a few Wal-Mart outfits if I do a super duper job of not giving a fuck about status. It's such a petty concern.

APookIsAPook · 2015-07-23T09:26:04+00:00

Don't think of style as just a way to boost SMV. It's an understanding of how to visually alter how others perceive you.

MachiNami · 2015-07-22T21:00:00+00:00

r/malefashionadvice, sidebar, "The basics"

Start there.

Add elements of your own personality. You sort of need an eye for aesthetic appeal, but don't go overboard. There's a difference between having an interesting ring and necklace versus looking like Slick Rick.

Although, there's a school of thought that a "good watch" should be the man's only jewelry. For a long time, a proper timepiece was the sign of a gentleman. Just get a decent automatic and you're already better than 90% of the Fossil wearing population.

If your clothes fit your body and you aren't swimming in them, it'll look good on you. Even if you're fat, don't hide it with fabric.

For god sakes, get some good shoes. A good pair of oxfords, boots, and casual, but unique sneakers. K-Swiss all white isn't unique.

Broke niggaz: If you already have decent shirts but you bought them when you were fat, tailor that shit. My Vietnamese tailor does shirts for $20.

MeatCurtainRod · 2015-07-22T21:05:49+00:00

Obviously don't take that swagger-jacking thing to the extreme. Just because you can find an edge case, does not mean you should dismiss the entire thing altogether. Use logic, use reason. Obviously this doesn't mean you should jump into AX and spend $10000 on a shirt, pants, shoes and underwear, and expect it to be some sort of instant magical alpha transforming spell.

The whole point was to find what works for you. That's it.

VoraciousG · 2015-07-23T15:27:34+00:00

I can't advocate the MFA sub enough.

Ignore the things that don't go with your style. You can ask questions there and get a really good grasp on fashion. If you're anything like me you could give two fucks about the clothes you are wearing. But the reactions I get from women when I'm wearing a pair of dark levis with a oxford button down and nice pair wingtips is completely worth the investment in time\money\energy.

I agree with OP that the 'swager-jacking' is probably best left for Seddit. But swagger jacking could kickstart ones own sense of style and fashion. If you're a noob and you don't know what to do, spend some time on MFA and swagger jack something from that sub.

mickeymouseoutfit · 2015-07-23T19:43:10+00:00

I look at it this way...."swaggerjacking" is a workaround, something quick and dirty that a RP or PUA n00b can do to boost his SMV on the short term. Developing one's own personal style is the fix, but it takes more time and thought and isn't going to give you results right away.

flying-gogoplata · 2015-07-22T20:58:38+00:00

Listen, I'm the author of the original thread you're responding too. There's no reason to be so combative like it's "one way or the other". Both ways can work, swagger jacking can give you instant results while learning, because good fashion on your own takes a long time to develop. "Fake it until you make it".

jx234 · 2015-07-22T20:20:09+00:00

Dude I don't give a fuck about the threads I'm wearing. Then again I don't follow much of the "advice" given here even though I think the side bar is bang on.

Title	A long term solution to the clothing-imposed SMV problem
Author	Asoka11111
Upvotes	52
Comments	49
Date	July 22, 2015 7:55 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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