A realisation I'd like to share

juchanaut · 2013-05-19T22:44:09+00:00

Very insightful, you know what's up. It still doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of the whole situation, just helps us to understand not to hate women for being women.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-05-20T00:34:34+00:00

Throughout history, women have been able to have their cake and eat it too. That's what having a vagina is all about.

For example, abortion. It's $100% a woman's choice. She can kill the baby even if you want it. But if she doesn't want it, YOU still have to pay. Her decision, your responsibility. That's how it is in every situation.

As for territorialism, a WOMAN explained this to me. Women compare MEN to dogs all the time, but it's exactly the opposite. When a dog comes up to you in a park, YOUR dog will be territorial. No, he's MY master.

Now go to a cocktail party. Or a grocery store. Or any public event. Have a taller, thinner, bigger boobed, and/or blonder women walk in between the physical space between you and your girlfriend. See what happens.

VZPurp · 2013-05-20T01:10:12+00:00

It's more than that. If one of those men she keeps around triggers her hypergamous urge, she can easily swing branches. So while all of these men do provide those important benefits she values, they also serve as a way for her to have more options at any given time. After all, she is the gatekeeper of sex.

Here's my post from the other thread: They love calling the branches they're about to grab onto "friends" just as well. If your girl is hanging out with guys 1 on 1 you have a problem either way. She's getting off on the fact that she has orbiters in tow who want to fuck her, or she's thinking of fucking one of them and ditching you at some point, or has a backup plan in case you leave her.

It's rather easy for them because they are the selective gender. They can pass off this behavior as entirely inocuous. However, men must actively pursue, so she is certainly going to be alarmed when her boyfriend is seeing other girls - it's what men have to do if they're going to get other girls.

Just look at how perfectly this fits the feminine imperative. Free resources, attention, validation, as well as the possibility of selecting a new mate if hypergamy is triggered.

The hamster will spout whatever bullshit it can to maintain this position while attacking a man who realizes it or attempts to satisfy his own desires.

robot_army_mutiny · 2013-05-20T03:51:16+00:00

I'm like that. I don't allow my girlfriends to hang out with most guys too closely. But fuck if she's going to tell me not to hang out with whatever women I want. But I don't believe in fairness, nor do I whine about it. I basically do what's in my best interest. Life has taught me that you either skew things to be unfair to your advantage, or you whine about the unfairness against you and no one cares.

2013-05-19T23:15:36+00:00

Girls like that believe the world revolves around them and that nothing they do is wrong or deserves punishment.

In the real world these situations are hypocritical but in the girl's world it's just a situation she's entitled to benefit from because her feelings are all that matter. They know that they're doing wrong but don't care as long as it works for them (this is why when the interviewer reversed the question on them they froze and just giggled).

stomptttt · 2013-05-20T05:44:08+00:00

It is worth noting that this is in Park City, Utah. Pretty women in Utah are incredibly sought after, because a huge amount of them are only available to members of the mormon church. This means that the remaining pretty women are able to demand a huge amount in a relationship, since both mormon and non-mormon guys of all ages are going to be pursuing them. That's the reason why I think these guys are mate guarding to such an insane degree. I can say that after growing up in this state I have met almost zero guys with the correct mentality of abundance and a huge amount project such an aura of scarcity that it's amazing. When you have that scarcity mentality, of course you are going to flip out like an insecure little beta when your girl has guy friends.

nicethingyoucanthave · 2013-05-20T03:55:58+00:00

There's a girl who says she loves me, but I know better than to do the relationship thing so I've told her it's not going to happen. But I wonder, just as an experiment, what she would say if I told her she could be my girlfriend if she limited contact with any male friend that I asked her to (no point in saying all of them, as not all of them are problems - gay guys, for example, are totally cool). She would have to drop them from facebook, no texts, no one-on-one meetings for a month to prove she can do it, and then for as long as we're in a relationship.

I'd be more than happy to do the same, and in fact, I've always done that when I was in a relationship - I did it without being asked. But every girl I've dated had her "he's just a friend" guys and I always just accepted it.

Since taking TRP I've sworn off relationships, and now the multitude of guy friends bothers me not at all. But I just wonder, since she has asked me repeatedly why I wont go further, what she would say if I made that the condition.

Deansdale · 2013-05-20T08:26:24+00:00

Just my 2 cents, nothing serious.

First of all it's classic self-centeredness. It's fine for them to do anything because... it's them. They are entitled princesses who can do anything, who can do no wrong. So what if they cheat on their boyfriends, they have the right to do that, and they can't even be judged on it afterwards. They are full of selfishness, envy and greed.

And they know (consciously or instinctually) that any guy around a girl is either a lover or an orbiter. They want their boyfriends to be neither of those because in the former case it's a sign of the alpha guy not committing to them, in the latter case the guy is a loser (negative social proof).

r_rships_account · 2013-05-20T05:44:22+00:00

I think that's hogwash.

Men generally value sex > validation. Women are the other way around. (So far as I can tell, women aren't much interested in genuine emotional intimacy.)

Women also like to keep a couple of Plan Bs on the back-burner, if I may mix my metaphors.

soThisIsHowItEnds · 2013-05-20T18:04:39+00:00

Women are socially territorial. Men are materially territorial.

Dreidhen · 2013-05-20T20:18:02+00:00

Well put - meeting and mating other girls leaves your "platonic" friend with one less branch to reach for, even if she doesn't consciously realize it.

Title	A realisation I'd like to share
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Date	May 19, 2013 10:32 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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