"After this there's no turning back"

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2017-09-05T06:37:04+00:00

Eh, you can still make a connection with a girl, just don't go into all beta boy Disney chump style. Meaning, take your time to catch feelings, and when you do, keep them in check from not getting carried away. read rollo tomassi's rational male stuff for ltr and marriage game.

Phiend4Phoes · 2017-09-05T07:00:07+00:00

I think this is a post we need to have from time to time since I too think these thoughts, meaning there's guaranteed a few other thousands as well. I mostly agree with what you write except for a few sentances. For instance

the dilemma between the belief that your life is special and has meaning and knowing that you are just a piece of dog shit on the sole of the universe

As other writers have written here, this should be freeing to you. At least it is for me. It's helped me put many of my morals and values aside for the betterment of my own life.

I've thought a lot about whether ignorance is bliss, which is basically the theme of your post, and I think it somewhat is. But the wisdom we gain by putting our ignorance aside is, to me, an unavoidable step in life. I got lucky for many years, I've gone from the most popular guy in school to an outcast loser, back again to king of the hill and all the way down to rock bottom. I got depressed and didn't understand what happened. I made a comeback in terms of social life, again without knowing what did it and when I fell once more I fell hard. That led me to TRP and questions I'd been pondering for many years finally got answered. When I met with the Truth™ IRL (before TRP), I got cognitive dissonance and did not believe what my eyes and gut told me repeatedly. My mind started acting in ways I never thought possible and I was fascinated by it. Ignorance is bliss but I think the issues we face in the feminine society are issues we were bound to see some day anyway, if we truly are intelligent beings. My point is, by facing and accepting these truths, we are in a way better position to not fall into the same old traps and let our mistakes repeat themselves. I would have kept trying my same approach to relationships time after time, because it worked for some time with all the girls I tried it on. The next time my life is challenged by hypergamy and whatnot, I am much better prepared for it than last time. I might even see it coming.

My biggest issue after swallowing is the communications gap with family, friends and coworkers. I cannot even hint at my beliefs without being ostracized in social settings and I don't dare/want to express my beliefs on any other platform due to the very real threat of being persecuted and doxxed. When we swallow we cannot unsee what is going on. So I sit back and try not to be bothered by all the wrongs I see. And my friends and family ask me what I think we should do, what issues we should focus on in society, what political party is the best to vote for.. and I cannot answer. I sure want to, I think we all have a need to be heard and express our concerns as humans, but shutting up for your own good is the hardest part of TRP to me.

pennyscan · 2017-09-05T14:44:21+00:00

Most people seek a higher authority to serve. Something higher than themselves. A god, a country, your CO, employer, hero. A woman.

And happiness comes from serving such things

If you lose your belief in the higher cause, you only have yourself to serve. You experience a loss of purpose.

Although most higher authorities are fake. The idea in your mind is real. Like the idea of female perfection.

And the higher your own authority becomes. The lower the world around you will seem. If you become the god, the world around you must become a sewer.

Only the mind has the power to resolve this contradiction

Hillarysdilddo_2016 · 2017-09-05T22:59:19+00:00

There is bliss in ignorance.

Remember when cypher was eating the steak, negotiating his return to the matrix? He knows the steak isn't real, but it's just too damn good to pass up.

Think to how the world was so magical when you were a child. Things were a lot of fun, the imagination ran wild. But was it that fun? If you did kid things today (for the most part) it would be boring as shit. Those things were fun because they were new, unknown, magical.

Same thing with the girls. You used to feel that heaven and earth have moved and the universe and fate brought you together with this woman. You feel a rush at getting sex, because of the uncertainty of it and the uncertainty to attain it. It was magical.

But now you know the nature of the world. You know the workings of male-female sexual dynamics. The magic is gone and has been replaced with understanding.

Now you lament the loss of your innocence. You miss the rush that came from uncertainty. There is always some small longing to return to simpler times, but no real man could be satisfied with that kind of existence.

We're men, we're born and built to struggle and like iron we are forged in the fire. The magic is gone, and it has been replaced with understanding. As you've said yourself, now your mission is to build yourself. You can find quality women out there. And with your new understanding now you know how to vet them and manage them, and most importantly how to manage yourself.

Don't long for the bliss of ignorance. You're doing alright.

InvoluntarySickCunt · 2017-09-05T15:56:47+00:00

I will accept that women will not love me as I want to be loved. I will accept that I am the only one that can bring meaning to my life and that this meaning will be defined by me.

This is one of the hardest pills to swallow- The only woman who will love you unconditonally is your mother.

It might help you to see the positive side if you reframe it like this though- The reality is that the sexual marketplace is a meritocracy, and a hypercompetitive one at that. Meritocracies are beneficial only for the top 20% of the given population (the accumulation of resources or "tokens of success" in any population competing based on a skill will tend towards a pareto distribution , even if thd actual skill level trends towards a normal distribution. See: distribution of wealth in any free market economy) and open the door to failure. The great part about this is that you already know how to succeed! Being in top 20% is easy as hell! Do your dues and enjoy the journey.

Also:

As a sage of the manosphere once said, "if you want true love, get a dog".

Zech4riah · 2017-09-05T16:43:50+00:00

I feel like a robot. Analytical, cynical, extrospective. I realize that my life will never be the Disney one. I will never feel the magic of believing that the girls I'm with are the ones for me. I will always look at my relationships though the eyes of an evolutionary psychologist (I'm the highest SMV person this girl has available to her right now). ETC, etc.

And to be honest this thought makes me sad. And I feel kinda empty. And life seems to have no meaning.

Most of us have been there. I keep dreaming from time to time about this Disney Love and relationship and every time when I have to beat it away from myself, I feel sad and empty. Positive thing is that this keeps happening less and less but when it happens it's suprisingly often when a girl who I like sleeps next to me and I'm still awake "Doh, I really like this girl but I really can't really have her".

I guess we both just need to keep swallowing to the bitter end until we have have truly accepted the situation. Although it would be nice to hear from some more experienced HC TRP Chad that does he still have this kind of feelings from time to time.

Avyctes · 2017-09-05T13:25:46+00:00

I really dove into the Red Pill theories in late June and I have to say, it permeates your thinking rapidly. This is the new lens through which I view the world, along with a few other "philosophies," so to speak, and I am appreciating my perspective more, now. I feel like a wise, more awakened Man, one not liable to get caught in the shit storm of the hang-ups I used to.

Tomassi's site and books, The Chateau Heartiste, all are welcome and treasured life-changing resources.

I am not sure why anyone would want to go back to their misguided, BP conditioned ways.

SgtBrutalisk · 2017-09-05T17:27:05+00:00

Why such dejection?

Men have lost everything to bring you these truths. Align yourself to them and live as you please.

Static_Variable · 2017-09-05T18:59:30+00:00

I have a feeling that sometimes when people destroy one illusion, rather than facing the reality they create another illusion. It is like they are watching the matrix, but end up watching inception instead.

What about the part in the matrix about "there is no spoon". Seems to me like you are trying to find happiness in life, the same way Neo tries to bend the spoon. Maybe it is not the approaches you take, but rather your concept of what happiness is - rather flawed. Maybe the happiness that you seek - won't actually make you happy. Which means that the ways you seek happiness, is akin to bending the spoon by looking at it - is not possible. Challenge that view, and change yourself instead?

newName543456 · 2017-09-05T21:58:13+00:00

Destruction of BP dogmas seems depressing for some time, how long exactly, depends on a person probably. But as time goes on, depression is replaced by more... serene mindset. Like you know how things go behind closed doors, but it no longer gets you worked up. It's just how it is, but you have your own stuff to do and getting worked up is counterproductive to getting your shit done.

AllahHatesFags · 2017-09-06T19:18:48+00:00

Good for you for not falling into the social media trap because that shit is a pit of failure and narcissism that ruins people.

[deleted] · 2017-09-07T19:24:14+00:00

Excellent post, thank you for sharing.

I think that feeling sad and disillusioned is largely due to the 'deterministic' nature of TRP being in stark contrast to the until recently ambiguous, mysterious, magical, random realm of relationships and love, one of the last areas that man (previously) couldn't explain logically.

When that veil falls and we see that there are actually deterministic cause->reaction patterns (like to some degree in any other system we know), not only do we have to change our ego-invested personal view, but also face the fact that it's not a magical blackbox that could be the source of infinite happiness and the feeling of completion, but instead is a system like any other that conforms to its own (predictable, deterministic) rules.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-09-05T12:25:48+00:00

Cypher wanted a "juicy steak" and popularity.

But Neo actually wanted to comprehend the "big picture".

So if we call fucking pussy the "juicy steak" and popularity just the way to get that steak then how would Neo handle what you have learned OP?

Neo didn't go back into the Matrix to eat more "juicy steaks".

Neo was wanting to Enjoy the Destruction of that Blue Pill mythology created by the Matrix system.

What this means is your joy must come from things other than the "juicy steak" or from popularity.

Neo faced Agent Smiths all the time... it was a struggle.

Choose the struggle.

Title	"After this there's no turning back"
Author	VenusHypergamy
Upvotes	72
Comments	27
Date	September 5, 2017 5:40 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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