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Another fine example for alpha fux, beta bux: experienced F wants husband to impersonate the abusive ex in bed

kinkydiver

July 18, 2014
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Title Another fine example for alpha fux, beta bux: experienced F wants husband to impersonate the abusive ex in bed
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kinkydiver

Upvotes 62
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Date July 18, 2014 8:05 PM UTC
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[–]robesta 41 points42 points43 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm confident she's not cheating.....

If she's not, it's cause he doesn't want to.

[–]Mild111 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Cheating is not about fucking someone....it's about being deceptive. She's cheating, any way you look at this.

Those shitty "abuse" stories are sometimes cover for "Yes I still love him, but need to diffuse suspicion"

And perhaps if he did abuse her, it may have hardwired her sexuality to seek such rough and tumble behavior, and that's why she's creeping back at his doorstep even though she's in another monogamous relationship.

Either way, if she hasn't done it yet it's only because this dude is humiliating himself enough to allow her to hamster her fantasies of fucking this guy into roleplay with him while remaining monogamous and relatively guilt-free. Soon, that will get boring for her, and she will long for the real thing and monogamy won't be so important.

Cheating isn't about sex, it's about a state of mind and a dirty secret.

[–]robesta 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I understand what you're saying, but I think most men consider cheating to be when their partner is taking another dick.

[–]Mild111 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

and that is where 'most men' get into the backwards ass situations like this guy.

Regardless of the label you put on it, she's disrespecting him like a chump. Somehow this guy rationalizes it, and thinks he can fix it, just because there hasn't been another dick involved, even though she has history and familiarity with said dick, and is having a very real internal and emotional relationship with it. So much so that she can't function without it. she's cheating herself, she's cheating on him, she's cheating their relationship out of any normalcy

not only would I run, I would tell the other guy that she's having sick twisted fantasies about him, and make her sick predisposition very public. Then she will have to choose whether to continue the story of the sexual abuse, or embrace it in her sick need to use him to get off.

[–]robesta 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Regardless of the label you put on it, she's disrespecting him like a chump. Somehow this guy rationalizes it, and thinks he can fix it, just because there hasn't been another dick involved, even though she has history and familiarity with said dick, and is having a very real internal and emotional relationship with it. So much so that she can't function without it. she's cheating herself, she's cheating on him, she's cheating their relationship out of any normalcy

Agreed. He should have kicked her to the curve the second she asked, stopped being a bitch, and fucked her better from the start. He's not going to do any of that tho.....cause he's a bitch.

not only would I run, I would tell the other guy that she's having sick twisted fantasies about him, and make her sick predisposition very public. Then she will have to choose whether to continue the story of the sexual abuse, or embrace it in her sick need to use him to get off.

That's petty and weak. I got better shit to do than care that much about a girl I already nexted.

[–]Mild111 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

true. My initial thought was that maybe one should warn the community about predators like this. But if they aren't red pill enough, they will believe the hamstring anyway.

[–]robesta 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Predator? She's not a predator. She wants a man who takes charge and fucks her good. If that was him, this wouldn't have ever happened.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]kinggluejar 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Notice how she waits until after he puts a ring on it so he can't just back out.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Briffault's Law in action.

(Payment to the Redpill Gods for a non-verbose comment)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there any actual research on how much of this is subconscious?

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy fuck me sideways..

If "run for the hills" could ever be more appropriate than it is here now, please show me where.

[–]IamAwaken12 points 12 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Note: she had 11 partners

Strong support for avoiding these high count girls as ltr material.

Once again if you at any point you aren't getting the sex you want something is wrong. You can only blame yourself, because you pick your poison. Evolve or suffer/die.

[–]SSBM_FoolyCooly 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Note: she had 11 partners

Or so she told him. Does anyone have a link which was posted here a long time ago to a thread in some random forum with 20+ pages of women admitting in full detail how they lie to their boyfriends/HUSBANDS how many sexual partners they had?

Spoiler: >90% in the thread admitted to lying

[–]theredpillager -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are studies to back this up.

Just from a quick google search...

One secondary source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/10643584/Sex-number-whats-yours-Why-are-women-still-lying-to-men-about-it.html

The primary source it cites: http://tab.co.uk/2014/02/13/sex-survey-the-results/

A quarter of girls lie about the number of people they’ve slept with – 20% say they’ve slept with fewer than they have, whereas 5% bump their number up.

Of the 22% of boys who lie, 12% increase their number, compared to 10% who drop it. Yet again machismo bullshit winning through…

[–]TheUltimatePoet -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you out-perform all her previous partners in bed - then it wouldn't matter at all, right?

[+]G3T0NMEYEL3V3L -8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, but when you have a smaller dick, that's impossible.

[–]anonlymouse 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

This is where you wish you could divorce without having to pay alimony and any of the other shit - 'cause that's just cruel for both of them. I don't know if there's any helping her, but he's screwed either way, and he could at least save himself if the laws weren't so fucked up.

[–]nog00der 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

its only been 6 months, so maybe he's not so screwed yet? i mean financially when he bails.

[–]anonlymouse -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I get the impression in most places you're screwed if you divorce a day after getting married.

[–]theredpillager 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

When it's a fresh marriage, you don't get a divorce. You get an annulment. The beta bux is not screwed if he gets out soon.

[–]anonlymouse -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That would depend on the jurisdiction.

[–]theredpillager -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I request a source showing a man getting screwed over through division of property as a result of an annulment within the first year of marriage.

[–]anonlymouse -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

An example was posted on TRP just 9 days ago.

I'd link, but AutoModerator is gay.

[–]theredpillager -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Searches for "annulment", "annulled", and "annul" all return zero results and the majority of your comments on TRP tend to have a bit of a troll bent so I do not believe a word you say.

[–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not an annulment in every jurisdiction. You pulled that out of your ass. It can very well be a divorce in less than a year. That's why you're not finding anything, because you're wrong to begin with. Your argument is based on a false premise.

[–]TannhauserOverture 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Goddamn. The poor guy. He went head-first into the provider-trap and didn't realize until it was too late. Hell, I'm sure the wife didn't even realize. This is some epic stuff and all the info is there. Alpha widow stuff.

Him: Virgin, Her: "11 Partners" at 27 (sure!!) Him: 27, Her: 29 (le Wall)

She literally lost interest in sex with her hubby the minute he said "yes". She is so fucking the Ex (or, if she has any self control, at least really really wishing she could fuck him).

And the hubby? Buys the ex's cologne and a fucking polo for foreplay. Jeez that's horrible, even for reddit-standards.

Edit: She says the ex fucked her so hard, so good and so deep that she literally needs HIM in order to get aroused. It's like he is her fetish. And she's not even trying to cover it up. Wonder if any of my exes have that problem. Prolly not though.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(or, if she has any self control, at least really really wishing she could fuck him).

At the very least, she just made it clear who she masturbates to when she's alone or in the shower, and ol' Beta Boy is off working hard to make that mortgage payment and car loans.

[–]deepsouthscoundrel 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First I saw the title, "My wife wants me to act like her ex-bf in bed..."

Then I thought to myself, "You know, I bet this requested shift in personality won't be towards being more caring, attentive, loving, or compassionate. I bet she wants to be treated far more aggressively and with less respect than this guy is treating her."

Then I clicked the link and read this:

They dated while she was in grad school and the relationship lasted about three years. It broke off because he started to become abusive and finally sexually assaulted her...

...So she wants to say his name during sex and wants me to do the same things he did in bed; wear the same smelling cologne, say the same things, etc. Otherwise she just couldn't get into it.

I hate being right.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the best blue pill posts I've seen in a long time. This guy is a whole mess of pathetic. I laughed almost the whole time reading this. What a beautiful example of an alpha widow.

Anyone else notice the theme in situations like this where the girl keeps saying her ex was abusive and horrible but keeps in contact with him and wishing her new man would emulate the abusive ex? I no longer believe a woman when she says her ex was abusive because there is just too many of them crying wolf. Always same old bullshit to make her into the victim so that more drama can pile into her life and people can give her sympathy and protect her.

[–]intrcept 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"It broke off because he started to become abusive and finally sexually assaulted her..."

Notice how "it broke off," which means that ex-bf dumped her? Had she left him, he would have mentioned it.

Also, the bit that he "sexually assaulted her" is very likely bogus. She resented the breakup and reframed it as having an abusive boyfriend.

[–]bertstare10 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah... it's like when if you're seeing a girl they say to always watch out for the guy she talks the most shit about....

same thing... they're trying to convince themselves about why particular guy X wouldn't be a good relationship....

hope that makes sense

[–]FemtoG 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Dear Reddit, my wife only gets off when she recreates fucking her abusive ex. What do I do?"

I'm laughing and crying.

How fucked up is our society that this guy doesn't immediately leave her. How fucked up is our society that even if he does decide to leave her (like any sane man), the divorce payments may convince him or even force him to stay. How fucked up is our society that he dressed up as her ex in an effort to please her.

"Get her counseling" is what everyone clamors. Disgusting.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

imagine our grandpas in that situation

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol another Alpha Widow, just longing to be treated like a dirty little whore, all to the chagrin of her new Beta Bux.

[–]moosik85 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is an alpha widow.

I call bullshit on the ex abusing/ raping her. More likely he was dominant in bed and tore that pussy up. She's trying to rationalise it as abuse so she can move on.

Husband sounds like a typical beta that married a slut. All he sees is unicorns and fairies. If only he knew really what his now princess gave to all those other guys for nothing more than a hella and a taxi ride.

Fucking LMFAO at counselling. All that is, is a money draining circle jerk.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Refuse to enable her problems and demand she seek mental health care

From the very first comment with the most upvotes. Anytime a woman is put on the spotlight and her actions deviate from what people consider socially acceptable, they suggest that she requires mental health checkups.

People refuse to accept this as standard female behavior. That is a far bigger issue than the story itself.

[–]trudatness 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or why even wouldn't people line up to say

DIVORCE THIS LUNATIC

or

RUN AWAY SCREAMING

No... It's all

Lets help her... tips fedora

I see this kind of shit happen over and over and each time it's

wtf.gif

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When we got married, I noticed a noticeable lack of interest from her when we were having sex. We'd still do it 2-3 times a week (which is fine by me) but she's just wasn't into it. She treated it like a chore, went through the motions.

Oh man. Marriage, not even once.

It broke off because he started to become abusive and finally sexually assaulted her.

Probably just some shit she came up with after he cheated on her with another girl.

she wants me to act like her ex-boyfriend in bed. She says that he fucked with her mind so much that she has a psychological need to associate sex with him. So she wants to say his name during sex and wants me to do the same things he did in bed; wear the same smelling cologne, say the same things, etc.

Looks like for some reason the old guy doesn't want to bang her anymore, so now her husband's supposed to play his role. Fucking hell, how bad can it get?

Finally two days ago I agreed to do what she wanted. I bought that cologne, dressed in polos during foreplay cause that's what her ex did, and sadly she was completely animated during the whole night. She laughed and was so wild that it reminded me of how we used to be during dating.

Oh my god, wow. Thank god I'm not that guy.

I've never before had a girlfriend while she's had eleven partners before

Oh really? Big fucking surprise here.

What in the bloody fuck do I do now?

Get divorced and hopefully learn from your stupidity.

[–]1AlienSunrise 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In my opinion, the best way to overcome this would be to become more aggressive. Instead of her saying the exes name, he needs to look her in the eye sternly, with purpose , that he is her man. Honestly just man up. If she likes to be roughed up, give her rough sex, pull her hair a little bit while in doggy style. Slap her ass and man handle her. Show her that there's some testosterone in those veins somewhere.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I want to agree but the cologne and polo shirts? That is some fucked up stuff in that post. He should at least try it but his post suggest that manning up is not on the agenda.

[–]1AlienSunrise 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If he manned up from the start then this wouldn't even be an issue I suppose. Better luck next time and don't let it happen again is the best answer then.

[–]IamAwaken5 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Simple answer really. He should put a brown paper bag over her head and pretend she's someone that actually desires him. Equality!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What kind of bad boy wears polo shirts?

[–]APrivatephilosophy 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd stake my entire life on that he was never abusive, she's just pulling that made up sob story for some attention or something. "I'm cognizant of the fact that I was so abused by him that I need you to pretend to be him while we have sex." Look, nobody smells what this guy is stepping in? Not even HIM?

I'd also wager she's had at least doubly the number of sexual partners she's admitting to.

This chick is a real piece of work. So's he though. This ship is going down on fire.

[–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude just needs to go straight to divorce/annulment now. Anything else is sinking extra time/money/effort into someone not fixable.

[–]gabilromariz 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Another case of "don't stick it in the crazy". Poor guy, I hope he divorces soon, that's no way to live

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

His fault for wifing up a whore. In the sage words of the prophet Ludacris, "Can't turn a ho into a housewife! Hos don't act right!"

He'll have fun after they strain the marriage out for 3 or 5 more years, until Ms. Crazy-Ho gets a divorce lawyer's phone number from one of her girlfriends at Sunday brunch over scrambled eggs and Mimosas. If she's smart, she'll pop out a few Fuck Trophies first so she can walk with Child Extort.

[–]gabilromariz 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

fuck trophies sound like an "achievement unlocked" kinda thing. I know cant unsee the shew vs dumbass pokmon style battle.

shrew used child extort, its super effective!

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fuck trophies sound like an "achievement unlocked"

Well, for women it is an "achievement unlocked"; it's an 18 or 22 year lottery financed by men and enforced with the heavy hand of government.

[–]CauisCosades 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sandshrew used Child Extort, it's super effective!

Dumbass was blinded.

[–]HolographicWhaleTail2 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This is some of the most emasculating shit I've ever heard. It's bad enough that she respects him so little that she'd ask him to do something like this, but then he actually goes out and does it. I wonder what was going through his head when he went out and bought these things. "This is the cologne her ex wore," or "I need this polo to look like her ex or else she won't enjoy being with me". I'm not even mad at his woman, she obviously has some obsession with her ex, it's just crazy to me they there's men out there that are willing to literally become someone their not for their "princess".

[–]bertstare10 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hahaha strong trend of wives abandoning their sex lives as soon as they get married haha strong trend is STRONG

[–]bat_mayn 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

0/10, would not bang.

Would tell her to go fuck herself and to see a therapist. If your partner doesn't like being intimate with you , as you are - and either one of you are not being satisfied - then it's done. Over.

[–]riverraider69 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

D E V I

Because none of them understands what is happening they have to go through this pitiful charade. It's not the polo shirts and the cologne, he just has to be more dominant in bed.

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