Ex just texted me that she is contemplating suicide. (Short Update)

TVTestPattern · 2014-02-21T00:08:25+00:00

I'm a widower. My wife hung herself. No threats... no hamstering... just did it.

You did this exactly right bro.

Clauderoughly · 2014-02-20T23:30:31+00:00

Good job.

You did exactly what you should have, and she is now pissed that you didn't take the shit test bait.

Never ever interact with this unstable woman ever again.

JP_Whoregan · 2014-02-21T01:32:25+00:00

I've read somewhere that the number one telltale sign that somebody is going to likely attempt suicide is an exhibition of extreme happiness, i.e. - total elation after weeks/months of miserable behavior. The idea is that they've made peace with their decision to go ahead with offing themselves, and are probably only days away from going through with it at that point.

aphelion3342 · 2014-02-20T23:45:09+00:00

File a restraining order.

pewpewing · 2014-02-20T23:43:05+00:00

Good job bro. She found out the hard way that accountability is a bitch.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-02-20T23:38:35+00:00

Let me play Devil's Advocate and argue against suicide "prevention."

First of all, you can never prevent a determined person from killing themselves. If they want to kill themselves, they will quietly find a way, and do it. They won't ask for help. They may or may not exhibit signs that they are going to do it.

I think what suicide prevention is REALLY about has its routes in the religious tradition of suicide as a "sin" punishable by eternity in hell.

See, most religions are for slaves who have shit lives. When people have shit lives, they might look for an escape, like to Heaven, which they are told exists. But you can't make it that easy! You need them to continue slaving so you can continue your life of wenching, eating, and drinking. Therefore, you take away the person's jurisdiction over their own life with a threat from an omnipotent, omniscient superbeing that will punish them for trying to prematurely end their life and avoid toil. If everyone laboring in a sweatshop lost hope and killed themselves tomorrow, the oligarchs would be in deep shit. It's hope that keeps them alive. Remember the suicide nets installed by Foxconn?

So now, in the modern area, where religion is losing its power, we have secular abstracts like "sanctity of life" etc. etc.

Another piece of the puzzle is a person's guilt over not being able to prevent the suicide, like it's their job to be an unpaid, untrained psychotherapist to a suicidal person!

As for the system? It doesn't give a shit. It's a jobs program. If you institutionalize a suicidal person, you're just keeping a bunch sickcare workers employed. The suicidal person will likely be drugged, and / or subjected to some form of mechanized, routined talk therapy that will only be a masquerade at solving the problems.

Finally, when someone "threatens" to commit suicide, what they're really doing is trying to control your behavior with your threats. They want something from you: time, money, affirmation, whatever, and they're trying to extract it with emotional blackmail.

In conclusion, you might say to someone who threatens to kill themselves, "Well, it's your life, you are free to do with it as you wish."

In any case, everyone dies eventually, so there's no point in killing yourself, unless you're in chronic, excruciating, uncurable pain . . . and lack the will or faculties to somehow learn to cope with it.

Edit: Note the utter lack of gratitude from her for attempting save her miserable life? No good deed goes unpunished.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-02-21T06:00:20+00:00

You handled this appropriately. Everything she said in the text is classic hamster. Spin, spin. Almost to the Personal Protection Order level. Jeez.

James_Coook · 2014-02-21T01:37:25+00:00

"Want an extensive FR on this 2 year relationship where, about 1.5 years into it, I began incorporating RP theories into it?" Yes please.

Nerf_Circus · 2014-02-21T02:10:27+00:00

Not sure if this is off topic;

/u/omgboat You say you broke up after using TRP stuff for months. This implies that it damaged the relationship, could you clarity, whether this was a negative thing for you? I have read both posts and I believe calling the cops was the right move.

AveofSpades · 2014-02-21T02:42:42+00:00

Ignore this loose bitch. You're calling campus security? Great. Fuck any one of the several wet pussies running around your campus.

2014-02-21T04:36:51+00:00

And this is what you get for caring.

RedBigMan · 2014-02-21T08:08:55+00:00

You sir did the right thing. You took a suicide threat for what it was a cry for attention and alerted the proper authorities to deal with the issue in question.

No doubt she had a couple of badges show up to her place and ask all sorts of uncomfortable questions. In such a situation it really is a no-win scenario. Either you tell them you were bullshitting and they give you a reaming for wasting their time and police resources OR you continue to play crazy, get committed to a mental institution and doped up with who knows what.

Sounds like she got the reaming of her life. Now as others have suggested you may wish to consider getting a restraining order or personal protection order. At the very least it will mean that she will be prohibited from contacting you directly. Worst case scenario is if she ends up showing up at your place and you need to call the cops you'll have a paper trail and odds will be better that she will be the one put in the back of a cruiser rather than yourself.

As for the second thing... SHE may think you are an asshole but she's an ex so her opinion doesn't matter. What does matter is that people who know about this will see you as a kind and generous soul who took action when he thought someone needed help. I mean the real asshole thing to do would be to tell her to go kill herself and finding out she actually went and did it when the cops come knocking on your door to question you about it.

nataliieportman · 2014-02-23T23:02:00+00:00

You did the right thing. If she were serious you could have saved a life and a family from grief.

notmyuglyside · 2014-02-21T13:23:49+00:00

Don't ever contact the police. Bitches will manipulate them to get you arrested. Police are the worst white knights.

mgtow4ever · 2014-02-21T14:23:11+00:00

I would say go buy a GoPro and ask her to do a back flip of a tall building.

noblepaladin · 2014-02-21T15:02:42+00:00

Outside of being completely irresponsible to both yourself and to her, there is literally nothing you can do other than to call the police the moment she threatened to kill herself.

For legal purposes, you have to take action to protect yourself, because she specifically mentioned you as the stressor and she did it in a documented electronic format. If she does suicide, the police may think that you pushed or bullied her into doing it. Or if her suicide looks like there is foul play, you would be the prime suspect. You are better off having documented evidence that you contacted the authorities to get her 3rd party, professional help. You don't want to risk the reputation stain of even being considered a suspect. Also, it is very important to have documented evidence of her being emotionally unstable. If she comes up with false rape accusations or if she gets her brothers/father/white knights to hurt you, then it will be helpful to have evidence of her mental instability to support your side of the story in court.

And strictly on the moral and ethical side of things, calling the police is really the only thing you can do. If she does commit suicide, you know that you what any reasonable person is expected to do and you can sleep easy at night knowing that you are not a bad person. Also, you don't know how your own emotions can affect you, as a 2 year relationship is a pretty long one for a young man, it is best to be on moral and ethical high ground.

And finally, for all you know, she might actually have been suicidal and you just saved her life. Or if she were actually using suicide threats as manipulation, you just taught her a very important lesson. She probably won't use it again with other people after having the police show up the first time.

slcjosh · 2014-02-21T19:37:35+00:00

i would tell her to never contact you again. take screen shots and document everything. CYA bro.

2014-02-22T16:24:43+00:00

I've known a few people who actually did kill themselves. Only one ever asked for help and he was on heavy medication that he knew was affecting his mental state. The other two just gave up, no warning, nothing.

It probably was attention whoring but you don't want to take that chance. Not to mention it is the appropriate response to a really fucked up shit-test.

totorox · 2014-02-23T01:28:16+00:00

Want an extensive FR on this 2 year relationship where, about 1.5 years into it, I began incorporating RP theories into it?

Yeah I'd love to read that.

nuone99 · 2014-02-21T05:21:06+00:00

Why is this Red Pill?

This is a psychologically disturbed person who needs help. I don't see why this post is here.

FinalEquin0x · 2014-02-21T04:21:56+00:00

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Title	Ex just texted me that she is contemplating suicide. (Short Update)
Author	omgboat
Upvotes	52
Comments	86
Date	February 20, 2014 11:24 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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