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Feminist professors attempt to prove campus rape is an epidemic by claiming that schools that have no rape must be lying!

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Title Feminist professors attempt to prove campus rape is an epidemic by claiming that schools that have no rape must be lying!
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Date July 8, 2014 9:00 PM UTC
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[–][deleted] 12 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I like to think in an idealized feminist state, each woman gets to compete for the handsomest dude, while 90% of the other men are forced into slave labor conditions their entire lives to provide for women's comfort and their offsprings.

[–]1Zanford 36 points37 points38 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aren't you describing the West as is? Tinder and taxes.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The promise of pussy and lies.

[–]Strongproudwoman 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitch, that would start wars. Orbiters against orbiters and these women are like the warlords playing risk.

Ashley from Athens discovers Ryan is fucking Jessica from Troy so Ashley makes up petty lies to her girls friends so they throw their support towards Ashley's campaign to cross the sea, kill Jessica and win Ryan over.

[–]Modredpillschool 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And what means do they use to force 90% of men into slave labor?

Rape legislation seems pretty strong.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget the outcome of divorce-rape which essentially makes a man a slave to a woman while the government holds the whip

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]colovick[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or like girls worshipping alpha cock and ignoring beta orbiters like some status boosting satellite that buys her drinks and shit... No need to compare apes to apes...

[–]1kick6 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually, according to their own leader's opinions, the idealized feminist state would be 10% male. Just enough to fuck and fix the toilets.

[–]sociosexualstatus 16 points16 points16 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's sad to see all this valuable time and energy wasted on silly fucking shenanigans like rape accusations as true problems of the real world. There's people fucking starving and dying for no other reason than being born in the wrong place and wrong time, and these entitled fucking feminists think its okay to create another stupid fucking problem that will help protect their egos. They just sit around eating whatever foods they want, paid by their daddy's and providers, fucking whatever guys they want, and then start complaining when their social status makes even a slight decline because they once sexed a sub par male. They do this, their choice of fucking eating and jacking off while men go out to fight in wars and die, all because there aren't enough women in the world to satiate the sexually frustrated taliban crazies killing themselves in order to kill other people. What the fuck kind of world are we living in holy shit.

Edit: there are actually enough women, the problem is the bottom 80% don't touch em

[–]blazingcopper 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When you destroy the nuclear concept of a family and make promiscuity an honorable concept while eroding divorce fairness, society it's gonna have a bad time.

[–]sociosexualstatus 1 points1 points1 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

But then again, who knows. Maybe the problem in the middle east is that all the alphas are taking all the women. But then that just means the beta males are taking out their anger on the wrong people.

[–]colovick[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's the effect of polygamy on a cultural level. When you allow a free sexual market, women will share men with wealth and power for a better lifestyle and better protection. This leaves a disproportionate number of men with small to no families and less income from not being able to support as large of a farm, which creates a feedback loop... In this process, they become more and more angry and start believing more and more extreme things, and it spreads like a wildfire over the course of a few hundred years, the leadership knows this is what the majority want, so they pander to the extremists, and you end up with things like shia law...

[–]Mans_Right_To_Choose 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a very astute observation. Thumbs up.

Last week, I had a long, ridiculous argument with a girl about contraception (context: Hobby Lobby something something). It was mind blowing how it confirms what you say here.

[–]t21spectre 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's not forget about the "glass ceiling" and the "pay gender gap" because it has nothing to do with the amount of work one does or the professions men and women choose, but DISCRIMINATIONS!!!!!11!!!

Do Women Earn Less than Men? SPOILER ALERT: No

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There must always be problems to work on? This can be easily applied broadly to Governments and their industrial complexes.

[–]colovick[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes it can, in this case we're discussing feminism, so we're applying it to feminism...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, just pointing it out in case people want to want to research it if they've never considered it. Off topic but I can't help myself sometimes.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 56 points57 points58 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The people they're after aren't the rapists. That's a mere 6% of men, give or take, and that may be a generously high statistic, especially in most educated/wealthy areas where families pay five digits a year for someone to be, like a college.

They're after all men.

It doesn't matter who gets raped or who doesn't. It doesn't matter who's actually a rapist.

All men are potential rapists, therefore, all men need to regulate their behavior to avoid alarming or offending any woman anywhere.

If you can't be bothered to do this, then you're a rape supporter, shitlord.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

6% of men is absurd. Even if 6% of women were raped, which they aren't, it wouldn't be 1-to-1, the rapists would be repeat offenders to the tune of 10-to-1. The number of rapists is probably 1 in 1500.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably. My extensive research included 15 seconds on Google, typing innovative queries such as, "What percentage of men are rapists" then going with the first search hit that had a number in the summary I could read without clicking on the link.

I would graciously accept an alternate number obtained through slightly more rigorous methods.

[–]TheBlindWatchmaker 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't follow, could you explain a bit more?

[–]1PaulRivers10 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even RAINN says the same thing - https://www.rainn.org/news-room/rainn-urges-white-house-task-force-to-overhaul-colleges-treatment-of-rape

In 16 pages of recommendations, RAINN urged the task focus to remain focused on the true cause of the problem. “In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime,” said the letter to the task force from RAINN’s president, Scott Berkowitz, and vice president for public policy, Rebecca O’Connor.

What feminism is doing is trying to villify men. To villify a group, you make sure that nearly all examples of that group that are talked about are negative, and nearly all examples of the group they're supposedly victimizing are victims.

It's not one single statement by itself - anyone can say "men suck" "men are dangerous". It's the careful crafting that stories are only depicted as "men are the villian" and "women are the victims".

Elliot Rodgers is the perfect example - feminists tried very very hard to never mention that there were male victims in his story. They mentioned him as a man because he's the villian. The other men he killed they carefully reworded as "people". The women he killed were referred to as "victims". When it became more and more apparent that he actually killed 5 men and only 2 women (and 3 of those men up close and in person with a knife), they faced a problem - how do they make sure men are never described as the victims they are? That's when they started pushing "yesallwomen" - to try to maintain the frame that women are victims, men are villans.

If you're raised in the US, take a feminist article and replace "men" with "black men" and "women" with "black women" and it will stand out like a sore thumb.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 38 points39 points40 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A very, very small percentage of men are actually rapists, and these men are violent and deranged and have issues. But if you ask feminism, rape is this huge, pervasive epidemic plaguing the entire first world -- especially on college campuses, where evil frat boys are taking advantage of helpless drunk girls left and right under the guise of consensual hook-ups.

Which led us to feminism's modern push where "mistake sex" or "sex that I later regret" or "sex after which the guy doesn't call or treat me well or behave in a manner that I like" or "sex after I had a few drinks that I don't want to feel accountable for" -- all count as rape.

Radical feminists don't actually believe that a consensual sexual encounter that the woman later regrets is the same thing as bashing a woman's face in with your fist, dragging her into an alleyway behind the bar, holding her at knifepoint, tearing her clothes off, shoving her legs apart with your knees, and forcing your penis into her vagina while she quietly cries but doesn't dare scream or strike at you due to the knife at her throat. Well, maybe some do, because they're fucked in the head and don't mind trivializing real rape by calling any bar hook-up a rape.

The ultimate goal is to create a climate of panic -- a culture -- where men, as a whole, are viewed with suspicion. Where everybody, man and woman alike, worries about all men, because all men are potential rapists. Forget the fact that a very, very tiny percentage of men are actually rapists, or how insanely broad the modern definition of rape is becoming. All men are potential rapists, so we have a duty, as a society, to teach boys, from a young age, not to rape, and to respect women more, and to be deferential to women, and to force all men, everywhere, to bend over backwards to never, ever alarm or offend a woman in any way. Because if you don't acknowledge this climate of rape and fear that women live in every moment of their lives and adjust your behavior, you support rape!

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the ultimate goal is to get everything women want.

  1. The physical and financial protection of a/more than one dedicated beta (because the handsome dude fucking you is fucking 10 other girls just like you and doesn't give a fuck)

  2. The sex of the alphas (physically ideal) men (i.e, best offsprings)

Rape culture is fucking retarded. I've spent time going around in universities after seeing a DON'T RAPE poster wondering, how the fuck is it possible to get raped in university? It's possible to get raped WHILE you are in university, if you go to a bar, or a house party, etc. But never AT university.

You would think women would choose between what is Good (e.g, fucking some stud at a party), and what is Safe (staying the fuck home), but nope. They want both. Shit, I also want food and don't want to work, but I wasn't born with a fucking vagina.

It's all a fucking joke.

[–]1raceAround126 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I would actually applaud feminists' stance on being anti rape if they actually did something positive to help reduce rape, rather than call something rape and stamp it out.

I don't see feminists lobbying officials to cut down rape culture in prisons, I don't see feminists volunteering at womens' refuges or exposing atrocities in the third world - at least without using it as a weapon for general universal man-hating!

If feminists actually battled some of these issues and maybe even attempted to battle corporate strategies of arbitrarily favoring women in employment rather than on merit, maybe they would avoid such monikers like "Feminazi" or "Nutter!"

As it stands, the fact that they're attempting to bleach society by instilling the idea that the second a man looks at a woman it's a rape is just completely perverse!

Anecdote: I was listening to the radio today. It was about feminism and how men are afraid to step in these days. There have been a few times in life I've stepped into a situation where I could see a woman in trouble. Some rather blase, some a little more serious.

For example, a few weeks ago, I was at a party. Towards the end, there was this one girl was entirely worse for wear with the drink. She fell on me and nearly passed out. I said to her, "Maybe you should call it a night, eh?" I passed her onto two guys she was talking to earlier. In doing so, I even pulled one aside and said, "If you're putting her in the room, make sure you come back to the party asap! Make sure people see you here, just in case!". They immediately understood and took the advice. The fact is, I was scared to take her to her room by myself! What if she cried rape or other inappropriateness and I have no way to evidence that I was nowhere near her? I passed on the task! And I would do so again! If the two guys weren't around, frankly, I'd have sat her on the sofa and walked!

I know that's terrible and entirely un-chivalrous, but this is what feminism has done!

[–]RPthrowaway123 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You'd be called a monster for not helping her, and a rapist for helping. Its ridiculous.

[–]blazingcopper 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll take being called a monster for $100 Alex.

[–]ch4os1337 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Complementary Anecdote: I saw a girl chewing the shit out of what looked to be her boyfriend and slapping him outside my house one night. It was going on for a good amount of time and me and my friend asked eachother "should we do something?" The fact that we even had to question it is fucked, if it was a guy slapping a girl everybody in the neighborhood would be kicking that guys ass.

[–]1Mikesapien 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"at the schools with low numbers [of reported rapes], 'the administration is discouraging them from reporting or collecting misleading data, or . . . sexual assault survivors are afraid to speak out'."

Reminds me of something from Anita Sarkeesian's latest video on feminism and video games:

the more you think you cannot be affected [by sexist media], the more likely you are to be affected.

This just in: feminists continue to insist that up is down. More at 11.

[–]rife_omeqa 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

sexual assault survivors

This shit grinds my gears. Sexual assault survivors? As opposed to those who don't live through it? We are talking about sexual assault, not murder. These few actual victims are not fighting cancer. The majority of these claimed cases are regret sex. This bullshit is exactly why I can't take it seriously.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This just in: feminists continue to insist that up is down. More at 11.

Funny you should say that. On SRS "Upvotes are Downvotes" or something like that

[–]aa223 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gosh it's like she wants rape to happen in order for her statistics to be right.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now you know why they've been widening the definition of rape so much the last few decades.

[–]Robotheque 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can we as a society just accept that Critical Theory brings nothing to the table and purge it, along with its cheerleaders, from higher education and public policy already?

[–]HAMMURABl 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

reminds me of the joke how physicists prove all unequal numbers are primes.

3 prime, 5 prime, 7 prime, 9 measurement error, 11 prime, 13 prime etc.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

unequal? you mean odd? funny joke anyway.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People get raped and it's a problem. Why does she have to use fancy words and make unsubstantiated claims to write about the topic? Anything can be framed as an epidemic if you want, but then it loses all relativity when it's applied with indignation to something that happens maybe a couple times a year at a school with thousands of people.

[–]nrjk 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So doesn't this prove that universities shouldn't be responsible for this and it should be left to law enforcement?

Here's a comment I left on another sub just the other day:

I still don't understand why this is a matter for the universities to deal with. Obviously, it is a campus and they have responsibilities to protect students, but it still produces a conflict of interest when dealing with any violation of the law.

Plagiarism and cheating are two things that come to mind that a university is directly responsible for dealing with and punishing. Violence, rape, and other crime should always fall on law enforcement with help/assistance from the university. If a student is convicted, then he should go before the school disciplinary board and have judgement rendered against him. Schools have too much to cover up and protect to have any students best interests in mind.

College students are adults that make adult decisions. If universities really wanted to cut down rape they would step up enforcement of dry campus policies or making their campuses dry. However, this pushes parties with alcohol (and lets face it, alcohol is the driving force behind most of these cases) off campus and away from the university's jurisdiction making law enforcement responsible.

These crimes aren't happening in the classroom where people are learning and actually using the university for it's intended purpose, they're happening at alcohol fueled parties that have nothing to do with a university's utility.

Four drastic steps to stop or decrease assault cases:

  • Eliminate on campus housing
  • Eliminate the "Greek" culture-no Frats or sororities
  • Ban alcohol on campus. If already banned, increase enforcement and punishments for having it.
  • Institute a campus wide curfew a la the 30's and 40's if campus housing exists.

These are hard suggestions to make because it's fun a hell going to a college party. However, how many people are in university that should actually be there? People that have more to lose, in terms of their goals in life, are less likely to commit crimes, much less violent ones. Standards have dropped over the years and the simple increase of people who just want to get away from their parents to party and make C's and D's in their major have increased along with sexual assaults.

[–]mau5trapper2 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They need feminism, they have to get it somehow

[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Denying you are a witch IS THE SUREST SIGN OF A WITCH!!!!!

[–]Bottled_Void 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So this entire report is based on the "fact" that exactly 1 in 5 women at any given university WILL be raped while they are there (based on a study of 2 schools). And any institutions that don't follow this trend must be lying.

They even go on to say this report (the entire foundation of their report) is inaccurate because of how they recorded the data (unwanted sexual contact /= rape).

This isn't feminism, this is someone that doesn't understand statistics.

Take for instance, they red flagged Temple U because they only reported 2 rapes, whereas University of PA must be fine because they reported 16.

[–]AmazonExplorer5 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm afraid the more articles you read that are written by feminists, the more you come to realize that this is a typical feminist article.

[–]Esminia 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well her claim makes SOMEWHAT sense, but it's not on her favor.

A study went out that in Europe, the rates of rape was in Sweden, Finland and Norvegia Study is in french runes, sorry and the lowest or so were in Spain and Italy, which is totally bullshit since those 3 countries are the most feminist left winged muh progressism countries in Europe, whereas Spain and Italy are the most catholicist and traditionalist countries.

What she and the study used as example is wrong on, is that she is comparing the cases of DECLARED rapes in each campus, and everyone who isn't retarded know that basing yourself on what peoples tell you without concrete proof behind it is stupid. If there is a crazily high rate of rapes (52%, come on Finland are you even trying to hide your bullshit), then something is wrong with the laws around it, and it shows legal abuse of a system.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Clearly there are no false rape accusations therefore false rape accusations must be an epidemic! ... Pretty much what they are trying to sell you.

Easy way to see through bullshit is to ask yourself who benefits from something being a lie.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Look, feminists are insane. We know this, now we just have a peek under the hood as to exactly how that insanity works. And it reads like this:

don't like that facts disagree with your pre-concieved notion?

The facts must be lies.

[–]Adolf_ghandi 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever I read stuff like this I think that something like that took place:

20th century. Women are not able to vote yet.

Congressman 1: my son is such a little bitch...

Congressman 2: yeah same, we got to do something about that.

C1: hey let's prank them and pretend we want their women to vote!

C2: yeah that will probably scare the shit out of them because of all the implications.

Election: bill passed

Both guys: fuck!!!!!!

It PROBABLY was different in reality guys. No need to freak out.

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