Fighting vs Lifting.

RedSunBlue · 2014-03-07T04:50:01+00:00

I find martial arts to be more personally rewarding than lifting.

But if you're purely interested in smashing vadge, lifting has far more utility.

RedPillScare · 2014-03-07T05:49:46+00:00

Lift. Iron doesn't have a schedule. You won't miss the start of class. Iron is without drama, but every martial arts studio I've joined did, eventually. Progress is measurable. It's easier to maintain skills by dropping in to roll once in a while than to maintain strength with occasional lifting.

Finally, if you like strippers, gym bunnies are good PWO fun.

Exactly_what_I_think · 2014-03-07T07:44:28+00:00

There is no VS.

Fighting & Lifting.

bleh321 · 2014-03-07T04:22:29+00:00

With full time work lifting is the most effective route to take.

A spar may take you out of action at work which hinders your resources etc. The older you get the less risks you will take as you do not want to be sidelined.

2014-03-07T06:23:34+00:00

Fight. Less monotone, better frame.

RedSpectrum · 2014-03-07T03:58:42+00:00

You have a very slim chance of getting into a physical fight with another male. Unless you actively pursue trouble.

Lifting keeps you strong and possibly deters other males from getting in your face. Women also see strong men as powerful and possess an ability to fight if need be. I do not think they worry about the skills needed, however.

carolinadreams · 2014-03-07T03:48:57+00:00

I'd say lift with just enough muay thai/bjj practice to keep your current level of skill.

Examine both activities and see where which are you have the most room for easy improvement and in which domain you are at a point of diminishing returns.

Unless you are a competitive fighter weight training is probably more bang for the buck.

GaiusScaevolus · 2014-03-07T04:18:39+00:00

To improve your SMV, Lift.

I would advise you try to keep somewhat in practice with your martial arts, but once you have the knowledge, you have a decent base. Lifting must be done constantly.

fluviant · 2014-03-07T05:34:36+00:00

Lifting (and nutrition) is a much more regimented lifestyle. Lifting has many benefits beyond the physical nature of it.

bonekeeper · 2014-03-07T05:41:20+00:00

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RedMindBlueEyes · 2014-03-07T07:35:30+00:00

Fight. Also, BJJ mentality is pretty RP, you get to maintain a lot of healthy attitudes there.

shitpommesfrites · 2014-03-07T09:56:13+00:00

I would keep on fighting. Its not like figthing will make you weak.
But, i'm having a hard time understanding why you need to quit one of them. To use myself as an example: I fight on mondays, wednesdays and fridays. But on tuesdays, thursday and saturdays i wake up an hour/hourfortyfive before actually have to and head for the gym for some early lifting before heading for work.
Theres got to be like 3-4hours a week where you can do some lifting; what else are you doing at 22:00 on a sunday night that is so important that you cant hit the gym(just to make an example)?

2014-03-07T16:58:26+00:00

I try to alternate. I see it like racecar driving. When I go to Krav I'm learning how to be a better driver. When I lift heavy and train for endurance, power, and speed I'm building a better racecar.

When it comes to striking, size doesn't seem to matter as much as speed. I've seen lightweights throw devastating punches and kicks. But when it comes to clinching and grappling, size and power can be used to dominate someone who is smaller but may be more technically skilled. This also applies to space. A smaller guy fighting in a large area can use the space to his advantage and stick and move. But put me in a cell with him and he has nowhere to run.

Also, intimidation is a big factor. You'll simply avoid a lot of fights if people look at you and see danger. And nothing says danger like traps the size of cantaloupes.

DonnieTobasco · 2014-03-07T18:26:35+00:00

Which one provides you with the most self-confidence?

That one.

ButterMyBiscuit · 2014-03-07T18:56:40+00:00

If it's a temporary break from one or the other, drop fighting and keep lifting, get a better physique. You can get back into the fighting later with an even better body. Like you said, women like a man who can fight. You've already got some fight training. Getting bigger makes you more physically imposing, combined with the fight training you've already done, is even more effective both at impressing girls and keeping guys from wanting to fight you.

That's my pragmatic answer.

bouisa · 2014-03-07T22:37:50+00:00

Fighting vs. Lifting is comparable to the Athletics vs. Aesthetics debate, so it all depends on priorities. Look up "block periodization" in the context of athletic performance. Ideally you should be doing both to varying degrees.

As far as fighting, maybe you can relate- there are few things more personally empowering than having competed in the ring/cage.

That said, it's a bitter experience to have this image of yourself as an exceptional athlete but never make that impression on anyone because you're staying around an optimal fighting weight (e.g. 142-147 @ 5'9" for me). If you want to influence people's perception of your physicality, most likely you need to lift.

Even though women might tell you they'd rather have a man that can fight, they have little ability to judge physical prowess. Whereas a skilled athlete can judge you from the way you move, most people will just equate bigger muscles with your ability to fight. I certainly get more positive reactions from both males and females when I'm walking around at 175+ lbs.

ilike2partyhowaboutu · 2014-03-07T22:56:29+00:00

What do you think gets vagina moist faster:

"I hit the gym and lift" OR "I won silver in a kickboxing tournment this weekend"

rockjock29 · 2014-03-08T21:15:12+00:00

I honestly say, whatever you like to do more. I like lifting more as I do other things with my time as well. I've done both as well and managing time can be hell sometimes to try to fit in everything in one wants to do. I had to give up the training because I went back to playing rugby, so now lifting is essential.

But I will say, (not saying this is necessarily you) that just because you do BJJ/Muay Thai doesn't mean you know how to fight. I've seen plenty of guys that train that go down real quick in a real fight.

magx01 · 2014-03-09T18:32:37+00:00

If you're doing it for you, do what you enjoy the most. If you're doing it for sexual validation, lift. Anytime I have been in a heavy lifting phase in life the reactions from women has been noticeably different. Hell, even guys react more respectfully around me. When I have been away from lifting and engaging in fight training I feel much better myself but gain no such external validation. No one can see the increased flexibility, reaction time, etc.

HighAngleAlpha0331 · 2014-04-15T06:01:15+00:00

If your fighting gym does conditioning then do that and pushups and chins at home

apackofwankers · 2014-03-07T05:05:36+00:00

Better to look like you can fight than to be actually able to but not look like it. Superficial, but works for women as well as any men you might get into conflict with.

AbbreviBanned · 2014-03-07T06:03:51+00:00

My question to you guys is Lift or Fight? What do you guys think? Whats more RP?

Niether is more RP than the other. I don't think either is inherrently RP either, they're just activities in and of themselves.

Choose whichever one you reckon you'd enjoy more long term. If it were me, it'd be a tough call, but I'd probably choose fighting because I like competition.

I have asked multitudes of women what they prefer in a man and almost all of them women chose that they rather have a man that can fight.

Kinda a no brainer then innit?

LinkenSphere · 2014-03-07T18:07:21+00:00

I lift, but that's only because I can't afford signing up for fighting. I have no problem getting my ass kicked in order to learn. But ask yourself this question, what's the point of having bi muscles if you can't fight?

I managed to bring down a big motherfucker only because I realized he couldn't fight (not a real fight by the way, just play fights), it's all about the techs.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-03-07T06:12:33+00:00

Lifting trumps martial arts training.

You have a greater risk of injury with fighting. Plus, most of that stuff is impractical in real life situations.

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