I have a theory.

CarlsPudding · 2014-03-07T15:01:57+00:00

Lol... You're cute.

cabsarehere · 2014-03-07T13:49:33+00:00

you apologize too much for just sharing your opinion. Getting a new and different viewpoint is always a good thing because it keeps me grounded, thinking, and questioning.

I can see where your theory comes from, but I think you made a couple of logical jumps that I do not agree with.

First of all, I have a great relationship with my mother so that theory can be thrown out the window in regard to myself. However, I did go through a bit of a slump when my girlfriend broke up with me about two years ago. However, I did not really harbor a more than normal resentment towards her at the time. I examined what happened and found flaws in our relationship in general: timing, compatibility, location, etc. However, I also found flaws in myself.

This inner reflection led me to discover that I was doing some things wrong in terms of male-female relations. I was way too needy. I relied on her for my day-to-day interactions and hung out less and less with my friends. These are things that I now would not let happen in a committed relationship. I believe a couple should remain two separate individuals, not become one entity.

While I do agree with your theory that sometimes it takes a failed relationship or a failed upbringing to sway someones thinking in a different direction, I do not believe that it is as vile of a thinking as you make it out to be.

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I also want to make a comment on your insistence that "women are people too!", "if she wants to leave, she can leave!", etc, etc.

I mean, duh. What kind of thinking is this. Women are people just as much as men are people. However, to not acknowledge the difference between the two is to just be ignorant of reality. That is not to say that all women do this one thing and all men do this one thing. But on the spectrum of things like jobs, you can make a guess where a woman and man will be. The man would most likely be in a calculatory (made this word up, im a g like that) position while the woman would most likely be in a job where she has human contact.

If you do not agree with the above statement and instead believe that women and men are identical in all regards besides the physical, then I believe that we will be talking at a crossroads in any subsequent comments.

However, I hope that we can continue some sort of discourse as I find picking peoples' brains to be rewarding

DoxasticPoo · 2014-03-07T13:13:32+00:00

Any proof your theory works?

minuscipher · 2014-03-07T17:14:28+00:00

Here is my theory; you're having a tough time swallowing the pill. You feel a bit bitter and some how some way you're trying to stand out from the crowd by standing on your soap box in a room full of wolves. Try it for yourself then talk.

amandeel · 2014-03-07T13:51:37+00:00

She left you because she was happier with someone else...

Yeah, but why was she happier with someone else? How about people who ended up here after failing in many relationships, seeing the same issues, and only succeeded romantically after finding TRP?

You say we are not animals. You are entitled to your opinion. But we here tend to disagree. Human beings are driven first and foremost by our biology, and our biology drives women to behave in the ways we describe here, and our members are constantly posting studies proving this.

What I think you have the biggest issue with is the bitterness you see here sometimes, and yes that bitterness exists, but it isn't our end game. That bitterness that newer visitors feel has less to do with how sexual and romantic relationships work, and more to do with how much popular culture and their families have lied about those relationships, to their detriment. Our goal is not to hate women, but to understand how best to manage our interactions with them.

Lastly, a relationship IS about more than sex; but sex is not a "bonus". Its an integral part. There are no happy sexless marriages.

You can stand by what you said all you want. Say it somewhere else.

Varrian · 2014-03-07T13:55:10+00:00

Stopped reading after the first sentence. Congratulations! You know everything. How's that been working out for you?

amandeel · 2014-03-07T17:04:38+00:00

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amandeel · 2014-03-07T14:48:01+00:00

I think a lot of you are here because either your mother neglected you, you didn't get enough attention, or your SOs left you for some reason, or you are unhappy in your relationship.

Well let's see: My mom worked out of the house when I was a kid just so she could raise me herself and is still my number one fan. I grew up hounded by girls my age, older girls, younger girls, and even women old enough to be my mother. And I'm currently in a relationship with a girl who I consider my best friend.

I grew up surrounded by women. I have a shitload of sisters who watch my back like pitbulls and they taught me uncomfortable truths about women ever since I was tiny. I've been with so many women I'm a little disgusted with myself and I don't even remember most of their names.

I like it here because a lot of this redpill theory is shit I've known my entire life but have never been allowed to discuss. Hypergamy, In-group bias, Powertalk, Dark Triad, etc. This is implicit knowledge to me learned through experience. I'm just relieved to finally hear someone else thinking these thoughts. You guys are a breath of fresh air.

bradyo2 · 2014-03-07T13:09:59+00:00

You are so far off the right track you may as well not even be here. I can assure you no feelings have been hurt.

Edit: Just looked at your post history and your brother (who I presume has the same view as you), is being cheated on by his girlfriend. How can you think your way is correct?

AWiseBro · 2014-03-07T13:36:07+00:00

I'm guessing you're of average appearance and social standing and have never really wavered through the spectrum of attractiveness. You've seen a pretty consistent nature of people, both good and bad. That being said you can never internalize any of this until you try and apply it to reality.

For me personally all I needed to see the world through a red pill lens was my body transformation. I went from skinny fat to aesthetic as fuck, picture me as your average men's physique competitor except I also train legs. In doing this I realized all people function on a subconscious level and it greatly impacts everyone's life. The Halo effect is a very real thing.

Until you've tried to alter you behavior or your appearance then you can never understand any of this. You can chose to accept TBP fantasy world you live in where we've all somehow evolved beyond what we're genetically programmed to do but it doesn't change the reality of the situation.

purecyse · 2014-03-07T17:27:00+00:00

At first I thought "why do we, as a community, let people that don't believe or are against the red pill create these topics."

After more consideration, I can see the worth in them but I do want to know one thing: what are your credentials?

How old are you? How many relationships have you been in and how long were these relationships? Do the people in your life come to you for advice or do you seek out others? Have you ever been a part of what you THINK the ideal relationship looks like? And, if so, what happened to that relationship?

There are several of us that are either in or recently out of long term relationships. I don't mind your generalizations, I don't mind that you don't "believe" in the red pill, I don't mind the feeling that you're talking AT me but I would like to know from what experiences have you drawn your conclusions.

amandeel · 2014-03-07T16:43:54+00:00

There's a lot of people here dissagreeing with you and slinging hate. Which, is pretty normal for this sub for anyone who dissagrees with their beliefs. I agree and dissagree with some of your statements.

It is so easy to call her a bitch, to label someone as alpha or beta, essentially to make it her fault.

There's A LOT of anger floating around in this sub. Quite a few people here have been hurt. It's easier to be angry than to forgive. And many people seem to have found this sub in their time of hurt which just amplified their anger. That said, there is also a lot of HATE that goes on here. While anger is perfectly acceptable HATE towards a general group of people can be detramental to your psyche and to your outward life.

Men are not meant to lead and women are not meant to follow,

I agree and dissagree to an extent. If you go over to RPW and check out their ideal of this men don't just blindly lead they take into account their spouses opinion, wants, and needs when leading. Most men LIKE to be able to lead in a positive way. The other day there was a really good post on here from a married guy who went to Disney Land with his family and how good it felt to lead and have direction than have his wife lead. While it's a silly example it's a very good example of how it plays out in day to day life. He wasn't leading because he wanted to dominate his wife and children. He was leading so that the whole family would stay on task and have as much fun as possible. Men aren't just meant to blindly lead and disregard their spouses opinion or wants they're supposed to take them into account and make the best decision for both of them.

The path of life should be walked hand in hand, like a team.

You're right. And the book MMSL has a great metaphore for this. It's called Captain and First Mate. It's what I said before. But there are times where the first mate needs to over rule the captian. I know if my husband were ever to take his keys out while he was drunk I would do everything possible to stop him from driving. But this kind of stuff doesn't happen often. You're supposed to be with someone who you trust. Trust is a HUGE factor in any relationship. And if you don't trust one another the relationship is doomed to failure no matter how "alpha" you are.

This phillosophy is truely best applied in a marriage or a LTR. The way many men here are appliying it is just to get as much pussy as possible, even from chicks who are already in relationships. They complain that their girlfriend or wife left them for someone else and they go do the same damn thing as those people who made the person they love cheat. There's a lot of hypocracy and circle jerking on this sub. But the best posts here, IMO, are from the married or LTR men.

floridacurious · 2014-03-07T13:09:07+00:00

From one extreme to another...

Title	I have a theory.
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Date	March 7, 2014 12:53 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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