I'm at a crossroad

Eastuss · 2017-03-27T12:50:58+00:00

They're opinionless sheep.

Forget about TRP if that's a problem. Focus on what you noticed and learned yourself. Keep your critical thinking up, be smart.

Keep your fucking frame up, you're a jerk not because you have a jerk opinion, but because you recognized you were a jerk.

Probably you should also learn to communicate and to express yourself properly, to formulate your opinion in a language others are adapted to.

The covertly and overtly thing isn't some dark RP stuff, it's kind of common sense depending on where you're at.

max_peenor · 2017-03-27T16:32:33+00:00

I then went to a bathroom and started crying.

Da fuq?

Before you start wrestling with sexual strategies, you need to address this shit first.

Beastmodding · 2017-03-27T12:56:32+00:00

"You" are improving."They" are in stasis,frozen and mindless.

You got your ass handed to you because you were too excited to share stuff about your self-improvement.

Do not talk about TRP or anything that has to do with you improving.

Do it with actions not words.Watch them point fingers at you and talk about you without saying even a word about your improvement.

genesisofman · 2017-03-27T13:02:03+00:00

If you're talking about gender or any of that faggoty bullshit in school you need to be studying something else. Any class with "studies" at the end of it isn't a discipline, it's a bunch of unintelligent losers that hate their dads talking about opinions

ArkAngelEV · 2017-03-27T18:05:59+00:00

Keep your fucking mouth shut. Read 48 laws of power. Then reread it. Read it a third time if you still don't understand why you you shouldn't be the nail that sticks out

solidtwerks · 2017-03-27T19:34:15+00:00

I just found TRP within the last week. I've been reading and reading nonstop. I sometimes feel some of the content on here is a bit condescending towards women but most of this shit is true. I have had so many "ah hah" moments in the past few days its unbelievable. I now realize everything I was taught as a child was bullshit. And it's not like I didn't see it, I just refused to believe it.

I'm the kind of person that says to question everything. If it sounds like bullshit then it probably is.

MattyAnon · 2017-03-27T21:13:00+00:00

So I am starting to question "The Red Pill"

You are being attacked and you are feeling the effects of being vastly outnumbered by the majority of people around you.

This doesn't make them right, it just means they won't listen to logic.

When i say "well now you see why it shouldnt be talked about" they say "its like a cult, and not talking about it just shows how dangerous it is"

Ok.

We say "don't talk about it", they say "it's a cult, don't listen".

I'm not going to tell you what to think. I'm going to tell you to TEST IT.

First stop talking about TRP. Both sides are telling you "don't talk about TRP", so we're agreed on this.

Right, so you've now got some breathing space.

Now you test it. Write down everything that happens and that you see around you. Eg "Girl A has sex with Boy B" and "Uncle Z is getting divorced from Auntie Y". Look at their relationships, look at who is doing what. Look at who is putting in effort, who is doing things, who is lying. Look at marriage, look at divorce, look at what is said. Don't believe anyone (I would suggest that women lie more than men - but you're testing this so simply don't believe either side). Compare what is said to what is happening. Try to see the truth.

Now you come up with an explanation of what is happening. Explanations could include "because women are awesome" or "women are hypergamous and insecure and looking for an upgrade" or "women are loyal and decent" or "women will divorcerape men because they are completely selfish".

Also look for a motive. Are people attacking your views because you're wrong or because you being right undermines them in some way? Are they searching for truth or following the same narrative as everyone else?

The idea is to test whether the BP disney lies are a good way to explain what's really happening or whether TRP better explains how the world works.

Be seen to follow the herd by all means... but don't let the herd decide what happens in your head.

porterwiley · 2017-03-28T02:30:11+00:00

Look you got called out didn't have it together and got told off. Basically you bombed It's not the end of the world. I guarantee you all great thinkers bombed at some point in their life.

Listen to Dave Chappelle's advice on bombing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr1n8lIYwVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGQ6-wc7eY4

newflame97 · 2017-03-28T03:26:08+00:00

You need to hold your frame better.

If you formulate points with logic, and believe in yourself and what you're saying you can stand up to anyone including the teacher and they won't be able to say a damn thing about it.

The issue is, you wanted to believe what you were saying but lacked conviction. Learn more about these issues and study them in depth. When you have confidence, you can revisit this discussion with your teacher. This time hold frame like a boss.

pandaholic23 · 2017-03-28T07:48:56+00:00

I kind of had the same experience 3 years ago before I discovered TR amd knew nothing about the modern gender norms.

In my sociology class, my prof assigned us to do something out of the norm over the weekend and discuss it with the class when we came back. I didn't do anything over the weekend so I decided to make up something on the spot so I can a grade.

When it was turn to tell the class what I did, my dumbass told them that I started acting like a girl in the relationship with my ex in front of people. She opened doors for me, payed for me, etc.

All the women in my class including the prof who was a woman started clamoring about what I said, and how it was so absurd. Then the professor asked me, "did you act like a little pussy too?". I had a good rebuttal but thank God I finally wisened up and just kept my mouth shut.

A week later I get a D on a paper I worked hard on and the girl next to me who had written about the same quality as mine got a B. When I asked her about why I got a D she gave me some bullshit answer. She was on to me.

sqerl · 2017-03-27T14:34:21+00:00

This would be better served in AskTRP

That being said, take a deep breath and relax. You're 16. Take some time to read, practice a few things you've learned, and enjoy the process of maturing.

Without a rock solid frame and understanding of the principals you're learning, a teacher (with an agenda) will happily school you. Your classmates have shown their colors because they believe what they're told at face value.

Check out the short video about the 48 Laws of Power. Especially Law 38: think as you like, but behave as others.

You won't change everyone's way of thinking by mentioning something you read here. In fact, they'll shut you down if you mention TRP by name.

We're not a cult. TRP isn't a religion. TRP is a tool set to help you understand sexual dynamics, relationships, yourself, psychology, etc. You're gonna need experience to know what to apply and when.

As for the anxiety that got triggered... take a deep breath. Be aware of those triggers.

In the meantime, patience grasshopper. Learn how to walk before you start to run.

2017-03-27T19:51:36+00:00

I then began shaking uncontrollably and my heart started pounding like had i just finished a hard run.

My teacher saw (!) and kicked me out

when i talk to people about feminism, Men, mens rights etc. I now begin shaking every time

Congratulations, you're that one psycho everybody vaguely wonders about coming to class and shooting up the place.

Get some help. Seriously.

bertramtrp · 2017-03-27T14:39:15+00:00

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havesexwithme666 · 2017-03-28T01:22:37+00:00

Honestly I keep my opinions to myself, it's not like I care enough about changing anyone's mind, really dosent benefit you in anyways

newName543456 · 2017-03-27T18:39:16+00:00

And there was a post here about how much people agree with RP concepts (like oneitis) when you strip them from RP lingo.

Those who mindlesly hate on RP, are just that, mindless.

Kornet1 · 2017-03-27T18:46:41+00:00

The more you read, the more you learn. What happened with you, used to happen to me back in the days, about other subjects and in different situations. Surely you've read the "rational male book", and maybe read much more else where, including here. When we read, we tend to enjoy, and as we read, we demonstrate all that's being said and relate them with our thoughts and lives. But few hours later, even minutes, we totally forget what we have read, although not entirely. Sometimes we think we know more than we actually do. And so when we get into conversations, we try to demonstrate our readings and learnings, to find out that all we've read didn't really sink in, as if all the readings/knowledge vanished.

Point is, before we engage in any type of conversations with others, especially in the environment you had mentioned, you need to know 100% what you're talking about, and back yourself up naturally with what you're presenting to others.

Read, and only save the important readings in your brain, and make a new understanding of them in your own mind. By relating to them, by criticizing them, and by coming up with your own findings which will lead to the those in the readings. This way, you'd be a lot more confident with your info that will be essential to keep a hold of your frame. Therefore, you can now express your thoughts, findings, beliefs, and understandings you have come to more comfortably, freely, and confidently..etc.

The shaking, heart beating, and nervousness will be gone when you know 100% what you're talking about. You might know it 100% in your head, but can't really express it when talking/verbally. That's what you should start working on. And with practice, comes perfection.

REYMIFAH · 2017-03-27T19:59:33+00:00

Look up some of Dr. Jordan Peterson's videos on youtube

Andrew54321 · 2017-03-29T03:07:40+00:00

Lift. Lift. Lift. Lift. Lift. Lift. That is what you should do.

But why you'll ask? Because you'll thank yourself you did later.

wheresMYsteakAt · 2017-03-28T12:50:08+00:00

Wow. This has to be a bullshit post. You started shaking uncontrollably and had to leave to go cry in the bathroom?

Title	I'm at a crossroad
Author	bertramtrp
Upvotes	0
Comments	51
Date	March 27, 2017 12:34 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/61rv44/im_at_a_crossroad/
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