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Interesting phenomenon I've observed (trigger warning: anecdotal evidence)

fuckin_retard

July 2, 2015
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Title Interesting phenomenon I've observed (trigger warning: anecdotal evidence)
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fuckin_retard

Upvotes 20
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Date July 2, 2015 3:48 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]yastroud 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Gender studies, sociology, fem lit --yeah that exists--, theatre, Anthropology, humanities. You even see a few pre-med.

Men are more intelligent than women, on average. That isn't sexist, that's empirical data. And it's the especially dumb people, men and women both, who have convinced themselves of shit like "gender is a construct" and "white men are evil".

[–]fuckin_retard 4 points4 points4 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's funny because your two statements contradict each other upon examination. In fact I'll go deeper.

"gender is a social construct" and... "race is a social construct"

but somehow

"white men are evil"

Does not compute.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly.

And then the whole fallacy of the "white supremacist patriarchy". If that existed, feminists couldn't go around calling people out for being "white male cisgender scum!"

patriarchy (noun) -- a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.

If the patriarchy exists, it's doing a piss poor job.

[–]Lt_Muffintoes[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And the racist white men in power hate other races so much that their evil actually extends to making Asians perform better than whites. What evil bastards.

[–]friendlysociopathic1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Source for that second point please? If you're going to straight up refer to your points as empirical there needs to be a source there or ya just look like a blowhard.

[–]yastroud 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

http://www.livescience.com/7154-men-smarter-women-scientist-claims.html

And "The Manipulated Man" if you haven't read the sidebar yet.

[–]TheDialecticParadox4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not so much about women in STEM fields not having the time to adopt feminism, it's that they know it's horseshit. Anyone with an understanding of human biology and an understanding of hormones, traits, and differential gender behaviours will know women have their place and so do men. Women belong in science, but the ratio is going to be skewed.

Most women are also intelligent enough to understand that feminism gives them an advantage; even if they don't believe in it. Women are better manipulators, so of course they're going to use feminism to their advantage.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism gives these women an excuse. The system has been holding them back, after all, and that's why they're not doing well.

Most feminists are like this woman who got destroyed in debate by Karen Straughn. They're used to society patting them on the back and cheering them on when they parrot feminist dogma. When they face intelligent opposition, they completely collapse.

Women who are capable, or women who are beautiful - they don't need feminism, and in fact feminism just hold them back because it lumps them in with the rest of the feminists. Imagine if Gisele Bundchen felt like she was being eye-raped whenever she strutted down the catwalk in her VS lingere.

[–]ChairBorneMGTOW2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

STEM gender disparity explained graphically:

http://i.imgur.com/N6BgRoU.jpg

[–]4benny2lava02 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Women go to college to find an educated man. (They have more expensive taste than marrying Larry the cable guy or plumber Joe) there was a section on this in "The Manipulated Man" by Esther Villar. It's a great read

I've had an ex openly tell me that she would not work if I met my goal of making 250k a year. You can bet she was fully supportive of everything I have done with regard to professional development.

If your end game is that, why push yourself until you contemplate suicide for a STEM degree when you can take something easy where you just puke up the last chapter on exam day?

Women do not want a career, they want a man with a career. They want a beta provider to buy them all the expensive clothes fancy cars and new tits after they hit the wall so they can keep cheating on you with Chad Thundercock. Either that or divorce your ass and take everything she can from what you spent your life building. If she could take your education she would probably take that too.

It's not that men are smarter, we just want the good life for ourselves and we are willing to work for it. There are women who are in fact willing to take on a changing career. My mother and sister are both engineers who did better in school than I did.

It's quite common to see educated couples where the male makes a shit ton more than the woman.

Then you see a femnazi complaining that men with the same level of education make note money.

Yeah you both have MBAs, his is in a real career, yours is in poetry. Poetry isn't building bridges or curing diseases.

[–]BetterRedThanRed0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Women do not want a career, they want a man with a career. They want a beta provider to buy them all the expensive clothes fancy cars and new tits after they hit the wall so they can keep cheating on you with Chad Thundercock.

Women want an alpha man with a career. High social status. High sexual market value. Handsome. These men are rare. Not even 20% of men are this.

Now if they can not have this man, they go for either an unattractive rich dude or a poor Adonis. Or both at the same time. If they can not even get those men to commit, they settle down even more for balding, insecure plumber Joe.

Point is: Focusing on your career is always a good choice. Rich Adonis with high social status trumps poor Adonis who is only admired by is loser friends. Plumber Joe will never get a 8/10. If plumber Joe was rich (but still beta), he could at least get a 30yo 8/10 ready to settle.

Sometimes TRP assumes that once a man is in his 30s, 8/10 will just fly at him. This is only true if you are well off. Some men are not even beta bucks status. Some men are just omegas.

[–]4benny2lava00 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I imagined omega as big and powerful.

I have minimal respect for women because they would rather use a man and dispose of him rather than go get it themselves. How on earth did we become second class citizens to that?

[–]BetterRedThanRed0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How on earth did we become second class citizens to that?

It was always like this. It is biology.

Women give birth. Men protect women and fight against each other so the winners can have sex.

Patriarchy never meant: Men are allowed to work and make decisions for society. Patriarchy means: Men have to work and have to protect society so the women raising kids are safe.

It is pretty new (I mean this happened in the last 100 years) that most people have jobs that do not actively harm your body. Now it is safe for women to work. And society does what we humans are programmed to do: Making way for women.

Edit: Think about it. It is 1800. Do you want to be born as a man who has to work as a coal miner 14 h a day, dying age 35. Or do you want to be a woman giving birth to 6 children and staying at home, watching them.

[–]4benny2lava00 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True.

I guess society has outrun biology.

[–]radesky 3 points3 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think it betrays a level of ignorance that this sub is so disparaging of the arts and humanities. There seems to be a consensus that these pursuits are inherently inferior to the STEM fields, which I find ironic considering so much of the discussion on here is focused on psychological and social theories.

[–]mikesteane4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

People who are good at both arts and sciences very rarely choose the former to major in. There is a reason for that.

[–]BetterRedThanRed1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is not psychology, but the people who study it.

Psychology is a hard science in theory. Practically, people in this field avoid math, numbers and everything you can describe quantitative as much as possible. Reasons: They do not like math. They can not do math.

As a result, psychology is so opinionated today. The question is not anymore: "How are women and men different?" It is: "How can society be convinced that men and women are the same?"

[–]dogextraordinaire2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The humanities are valuable but are far less so on a societal level than STEM. STEM is what makes our world keep turning. So I wouldn't say it is ignorant that the sub values STEM more, tbh I think it illustrates the pragmatism of the sub.

Are humanities less important? Yes and that is coming from a History student. I enjoy studying it but the content is miles easier than the content my engineering friends have shown me they have to learn. Doing a humanities degree doesn't stop someone from developing STEM skills however; I taught myself Javascript, C++ and Swift. Most humanities students are lazy and the quality of the degree reflects that (I only have to attend 5 hours a week).

[–]friendlysociopathic0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why should you waste time formally studying the humanities at university level? It's vastly less employable and you can learn it all yourself with a library and some motivation. The humanities are vastly valuable but not as a way to build a career, which is what university is for these days.

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I know a total RP woman, her IQ is high 130s. (real neuropsych test, not internet IQ test, lol)

[–]fuckin_retard 7 points7 points7 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That's similar to what I've observed.

All these women's studies majors are constantly bitching about the lack of girls studying/working in STEM. OK.. why don't you stop your useless degree while you can and enroll in some engineering classes?? Oh, yeah... they're hard.

Ironically, all the engineering chicks that I've encountered don't complain about the gender discrepancy. Why? They simply don't have time.

[–]tracker2208 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Ironically, all the engineering chicks that I've encountered don't complain about the gender discrepancy. Why? They simply don't have time.

Chicks that smart usually know there is a good chance they got to where they are over equally qualified and possibly more qualified men.

[–]AureliusThunderkok1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I went to law school with some intelligent but radicalized feminists. These are the real trouble makers as they have ascended to positions of power (I know quite a few who are politicians in our current ruling party). Keep in mind there are a number of societal factors/programs which create these paths for women - a smart woman can waltz right into a career if she is willing to adopt pro-fem views.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you get deep into sociology at the core you realize it's very good science and alot of hard work goes into it. It's just nowadays most Sociologists are either feminists or Marxist's so obviously the work ethic has taken a nosedive.

[–]ElectricGhostD 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You just haven't been around enough STEM women. I have a Masters in STEM and can tell you simply AWALT.

[–]Ferelden1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ditto. All these dudes talking about how stem girls don't have the time or are too smart to fall for feminism are clueless. I was a RA/TA in grad school and I saw a lot of young students go through. A woman in engineering could have a free ride if she was willing to shackle up to a beta (which would be easy to do because as we even see on trp based on a couple comments in this thread, these women are worshipped). Where they go wrong is they try to maximize the beta output with minimum input (imo it's ironic that this very act wakes a lot of men up and sends them to trp/the manosphere).

It's really common in my experience for downright ugly engineering girls to be dating great looking guys because their perceived smv is so high. I always felt bad for these dudes because they never even stood a chance. This 3/10 had the smv of a 9/10 because every kissless beta and omega was drooling over her. As you said, they just can't understand AWALT.

[–]BetterRedThanRed1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The difference is that they are aware of the preferred treatment they get. Not using this would be stupid. They enjoy it and are happy.

The thing is that women in gender studies use their female privilege just the same, but at the same time they think they are oppressed and men owe them even more.

[–]Ferelden0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They're not aware of any preferential treatment. To these engineering women, it's just how things are. They don't know their power comes from their pussy, they just think they're an even bigger special snowflake than they did previous to entering the stem field. They aren't any more special than women's studies students and will agree with a women's study major if a conversation arises. Women always look to follow the heard, and feminism is the approved message, especially in college.

I now work with a few of these women and they've already blamed their sex for not being taken seriously more than 10 times. Two weeks ago I had this exchange with them:

Girl a: it's ridiculous how [boss] never takes our ideas seriously!

Girl b: I know, [complicated idea] would by far be the best solution.

Me: To be fair, the solution [boss] chose cost no money to implement and provides the same end product as your idea. Your idea would cost $50,000 to implement.

Girl a: well he doesn't have to be mean about it.

Disclaimer: boss wasn't even close to mean about it, he matter of factly said he chose the other idea because there was no upfront expense.

I've heard a million times how much different engineering women are, but I've never met one who actually is.

[–]BetterRedThanRed0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is all anecdotal.

I heard women in the STEM field claiming that a man has to show that he is better than them, otherwise a woman will be project head or get a promotion. If a boss can not definitively show that a man would be suited better for a job, one of the women will get it.

Also, I know a student who wants to get a Ph.D. She already talked with profs and he did not directly tell her, but she understood what he meant: As long as a woman could do a job just good enough, she will get a place. A man has to be the best of all competitors to get one.

Another one: She said if she does not know how to do a thing, there is always someone who helps her and gives her a list of good literature. She thinks this happens because she is a woman and even I did not agree with this, since this is what co-workers do (I would certainly help a male co-worker, too).

They aren't any more special than women's studies students and will agree with a women's study major if a conversation arises.

Women avoid confrontation in general.

Male scientists talking about how easy it is for women in STEM? Woman: "Yeah, true. As a woman in STEM I have barely any competition. It is quite easy."

Gender study majors talking about patriarchy. Same women: "Once a co-worker asked me out for dinner. Can't men be professionals???"

Women rarely call somebody out and disagree with somebody openly.

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[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please add the sections ASAP before the thread is removed.

I hope you have a good grasp on irony.

Consider what you are doing.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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