Is it really necessary to be big?

BurgundyCarpet · 2015-08-06T14:09:10+00:00

"necessary"? of course not.

"highly beneficial?" fuck yeah.

CopperFox3c · 2015-08-06T14:27:33+00:00

Strength is the ability to exert one's will over oneself, over nature, and over other people. It is strength that makes all other values possible. - Jack Donovan The Way of Men

Strength in its purest sense is physical - being bigger, more muscular. Being able to move heavy loads, but also being unmovable. A characteristic of manliness in all cultures is being stronger, bigger ... since the stronger, bigger man typically has more testosterone. He looks more masculine.

No one ever criticizes a woman for being small or weak, in fact many prefer a more petite woman. The opposite is true for men. And it something any man can improve through hard work and self-discipline. Strength and size are defining characteristics for men ... they are what sets us apart. Embrace it.

Funk54daba · 2015-08-06T14:28:30+00:00

There are different ways to be fit. One could argue that having a fighter's build is more primal and alpha than the typical bodybuilder shape.

I would continue to focus on your functional strength. If bulking helps, then go for it. But I wouldn't concern myself with the opinions of the types of dudes who strut around between sets of tricep push-downs.

Wolfsdorf · 2015-08-06T16:03:51+00:00

What's more important to you? fighting or girls? alphas do whatever they want to do more. If you want to be a good fighter and believe you're in the ideal weight to be one, then you know the answers. As we usually preach; women are not everything. Your life comes first.

HellhoundsOnMyTrail · 2015-08-06T14:14:44+00:00

"Alpha" is an amorphous term. Lifting is a great way to learn how to build a habit and get positive brain chemicals going. However, if you do some looking around there is research that indicates 10-12% bodyfat is more attractive to women than 7-9%. Additionally, I don't think anyone could argue that Bill Gates isn't "alpha" or that George Clooney could pull more ass if he was only 250 and 7% bodyfat. Alpha is contextual and you can still be jacked and be a BB. My advice is to stop worrying about how you look(edit: because it sounds like you got that handled) and start concentrating on reaching the top of whatever field you're in.

abdada · 2015-08-06T14:10:51+00:00

I'm in my 40s. Never strong but I love working out.

My current form seems to be the most attractive to women, based on my personality. I have more of a Fight Club leanness than a swolebro build.

In the past I had 10-12# more muscle at the same body fat but I was exhausted all the time and had to eat a shit ton more every day. wasn't happy.

Now I'm lean and fast and still reasonably strong. And when I hit the beach on a surf board or paddleboard, I get plenty of attention.

5'8", 140-145#, 41yo. I am going to do a 12 week slow bulk starting September and a 12 week cut to aim to get to 145# total (3# more muscle, 3# less fat). Hopefully I can sustain it (eating) and not get exhausted.

PedroIsWatching · 2015-08-06T16:12:31+00:00

The only people that really care about your cuts and your veins and how swole your rear delts are, are dudes.

If you have the body type I'm thinking of based on the description you gave in the OP, you're golden. As long as you have faintly visible abs and your arms fit tight in your sleeves (based on your size, that part might depend on good fitting clothes), you'll get girls wet.

GrandmasterHurricane · 2015-08-06T17:04:46+00:00

I'll recommend strength over size any day. It's easier and a whole lot faster to get stronger than to put in size. Not only that, but crushing PR after PR makes you a lot stronger mentally too. You'll know the true extent of your physical strength as a man. Go on a good bulk and start moving heavy weights in good form.

Too many guys focus on trying to look cute in shirts rather than working on their strength. Strength has many real world applications. When you can deadlift 365 off the floor for a few reps it does a whole lot to your posture, your mental fortitude, and your confidence.

I encourage all of you to get on a good strength program, and test your limits. You don't need to be huge to be strong, just dedicated.

Checkout this savage:

https://youtu.be/1pXb7pi5lk0

https://youtu.be/b5fkXad3WKw

JackGoldsteinWrites · 2015-08-06T14:09:44+00:00

I'm not saying it's necessary, but I'm not saying being "big and strong" is bad either.

raob11 · 2015-08-06T14:13:05+00:00

Looking ripped is definitely good.

Looking large and ripped is better.

sardinemanR · 2015-08-06T14:34:40+00:00

Lean is always better.

Lifting is just the easy way out, so it's recommended for most.

A fighters body takes a looooot more work to develop. I know, I've done both.

This is actually a common thing when bodybuilder or NFL player types run into mma fighters. When the bodybuilder/NFL player finds out it's an MMA fighter, they generally back off. Although at first it's usually insults and throwing around weight. Look up Bas Rutten for some funny stories.

TomDemian · 2015-08-06T14:49:37+00:00

Why is being big attractive? Two reasons.

A girl thinks you can pick her up and throw her around.
You can actually do this.

Women want a man who can completely control them - mentally and physically. And she will always be more attracted to men who she perceives to be better at these two things.

bouncyballs_arefun · 2015-08-06T14:51:26+00:00

It's not about being big it's about having control and being fit. It really just comes down to: don't be lazy - everyone needs fitness.

brokenshelf · 2015-08-06T15:53:23+00:00

I wouldn't say you need to be "big", per se. When people think "big", they usually think "boby builder big" which is incredibly hard to do. I've discovered some people fear going full Arnold, when it reality that takes years and discipline that most people don't have.

Just lift. Get bigger, but not huge.

GuitarHero07 · 2015-08-06T17:39:53+00:00

Basically, it's important to have low body fat, a flat stomach, good definition and toned muscles; you need to look fit and masculine. You don't necessarily have to be huge.

Consider Cristiano Ronaldo, Brad Pitt in Fight Club, any high level swimmer, Robert Downey Jr. etc. I think we can agree that most women consider these men to be very sexy. They aren't huge but they look like they are in great shape.

Stythe · 2015-08-06T17:42:40+00:00

Being a small dude with a good heart, mind and dedication is the same as being a fat chick who's loyal. You may have most of the important stuff, but there's a flaw there that's hard to overlook.

Besides, it's worth it to be in shape and be able to use your body. You don't have to look like Arnold, just be as big as you want. Much as I may respect challenge it takes to get jacked as fuck, I'd never want to look like that. But having a good amount of muscle and low fat is worth it. As a former fatty, I can attest.

BlackHeart89 · 2015-08-06T18:08:17+00:00

Different women like different things. Generally, the more muscle the better. Just so long as you don't get to the point where you're walking funny.

No. It is not necessary. Just do your thing. I personally don't want to be BIG. I just want to have a nice physique and strong lifts.

MachiavellianRed · 2015-08-06T18:12:26+00:00

/r/asktrp

GhostOfAladdin · 2015-08-06T17:01:46+00:00

Sure. Wearing confidence and self esteem will do wonders...

moosevice_dot_com · 2015-08-06T14:55:28+00:00

Calisthenics gives you functional strength that is used in your daily life. Lifting heavy weights gives you bulk for the visual appeal. I prefer functional strength with low body fat over bulky with little definition.

Title	Is it really necessary to be big?
Author	BJayJay
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Date	August 6, 2015 2:07 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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