Life Without LTRs, part deux

Moldy_Gecko · 2016-03-02T01:52:17+00:00

More or less, after my 9 year marriage, this is where I'm at, spinning plates, deflecting commitment. And I agree with the maintenance. I'm on every damn app as well as going out. The pool is very small where I live and I basically fuck tourists. Have 3 plates and 1 of them I will be getting rid of soon due to her wanting a LTR.

I first learned about this sub because I failed a shit test and /seduction led me here. I felt the same way about them having names for shit that I knew about, but didn't know how to explain. This place is gold.

Howlgram · 2016-03-02T05:25:16+00:00

You can live your life without LTRs and still be perfectly happy and fulfilled

Honestly this is the one thing that i feel most uncertain and afraid of, that i wont be able to be fully satisfied without an LTR. Perhaps i'll forget all about it once i start learning the game and experiencing abundance, but right now the TRP way feels pretty much like "what if I'm getting into something that in the end will just leave me dissatisfied with life"

theultmatecad · 2016-03-02T02:37:42+00:00

Guess what? All LTR s are temporary. Bitches are not loyal so act accordingly.

TheRavingRedditor · 2016-03-02T00:23:34+00:00

Really resonated with me, even more than the original titled post, which did as well. Especially the getting over the "feeling weird" part. Not like an urge to do be beta, but an intellectual disconnect. Like saying I'm going to draw a 5 sided square and looking down at the paper and being baffled you actually did it. It doesnt make sense but every time you reassess the drawing , it's still a square.

It's like Neo 10 years after waking up still having occasional dreams at night that take place in his previous life. Just a little disorienting at most, but still never fully goes away.

AndrewWaynePost · 2016-03-02T02:51:28+00:00

HA! This is like a tale of two bachelors. Both of us starting on opposite sides of the LTR fence.

I must say, the commitment thing always seemed off to me. Even when I had that GF in high school, I cheated on her all the time and felt zero remorse. People used to give me so much shit, and all I could think was, "What? She knows what I am about. This is her fault."

There was another time shortly after I started college where a jumped the fence for a while. I was living in the dorms, and already made a couple of friends. A month after the semester started I had a plate, and was looking to get more (though I did not refer to them as plates at the time). As I walked off to meet up with another one, one my beta friends gave me a load of shit. I was incredulous. "What is wrong with this?" I thought, but I listened to him because he was a cool guy, and officially broke it off with plate 1 before pursuing plate 2. You know how that ended. Still, I gave the whole LTR thing a shot with a few others girls. But it felt so wrong, and I was awful at it.

Being in the military did not help either. Full of betas. Especially since I was an officer, I was one of the only single ones. Yet, I still managed to stay unattached. Not really by conscious choice, but because it just didn't seem right, work out, etc...

Fast forward a few years, and I was officially introduced to TRP. I could not believe it. The friend who introduced it to me said the only reason any of it clicked with him is remember me in college.

Now I know what the fuck is going on, what I always knew deep down, despite the constant thrum of the FI buzzing in the background. Now I keep to my guns, life is pretty grand, and I only see it getting better.

Anyways, great post. This was a fantastic addition as it covered points and perspectives I could not have.

metalhead4 · 2016-03-02T01:11:32+00:00

Struggling with this right now. I want to spin plates, but I always fall into relationship trap because it genuinely makes me feel happy. I'm just comin out of a 6 month relationship with a woman who is bipolar, so any bit of Cray Cray I could share already makes sense because she's literally got a mental disorder.

I think of the future a lot and I'm only 25, but I can't help but feel like I don't want to be alone when im old and want to have a family that will visit and care about me. I feel if I pursue the full TRP lifestyle I'll just end up sad and alone.

Rasalom72 · 2016-03-02T14:56:40+00:00

parents are disraught that I haven't yet 'grown up' and knocked up a good girl to give them nephews.

You would be giving your parents grand children. Just FYI.

AtlRP · 2016-03-02T19:52:51+00:00

I wanted to protect that beautiful precious dream of a life that I still believed was as a fragile as a crystal sculpture.

When you remove pussy from the pedestal, you replace it with your own life.

Great post, OP.

Nycredpilldad · 2016-03-02T20:12:35+00:00

Good read, this was my life for a good number of years before I knocked up a plate & went through beta hell trying to be a good family man.

I was happy living my life, spinning 5 plates for years on end. I wish TRP existed back then to warn me of oneitis, about how shitty single moms are & how divorce rape/losing your kids can destroy a mans frame.

_the_shape_ · 2016-03-02T21:20:49+00:00

Never having a girlfriend does win you a reputation as a player, and my parents are disraught that I haven't yet 'grown up' and knocked up a good girl to give them grandchildren. In general, this isn't a lifestyle choice that you can flaunt, as people will give you equal parts of mistrust and envy for it. You have to be very private, which can kill some of the fun of it.

The funny thing is that the same people who cast disapproval on you for this sort of lifestyle will also use lines like "you can't make everyone happy", or "you have to do you" in respect to other areas of your life, like career choices or choosing to live in one city versus another. There you are allowed to say "fuck the world!" and do as you please, but in the dating game? Having great sex with multiple women and never committing to any one of them? Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! Delicious showcase of cognitive dissonance.

It is true though - you will be seen as "the bad guy" if you live this sort of life. It will blow your mind to see how deeply it affects others what you do with your own life that has no direct bearing on them. I wonder if in their minds, spinning plates is something nearly on par with being a petty white-collar criminal, someone who, according to their view of the world, ruthlessly exploits the system for their personal gain - a snake, basically.

OP is spot on - do not showcase your conquests unless it is to other "players" or people you are certain will not get their panties in a bunch and ostracize you for behaving in such fashion (ex. redpill dad, grandfather). If they ask, either tell others you are too busy trying to accomplish something requiring loads of your time (ex. PhD, starting your own business on the side), meaning you have no time for something "serious", or lie and tell them you have a long-distance relationship with some chick somewhere far away (be prepared to have a backstory though, possibly even with pics). Personally, I suggest the former, as it's something most people will back down from pushing their disney-bullshit onto you ("Oh, of course, of course. Concentrate on getting that small business going ~~and then you can be the perfect beta bucks~~.")

Popeman79 · 2016-03-02T21:14:14+00:00

I became pretty intolerant of drama. And as drama scales exponentially with hotness, my plates are invariably capped at HB8s

Same here. I've LTRed a few gorgeous women, but now I don't have the pacience to deal with their bullshit and I'm stuck fucking 6s and 7s that are grateful to have me. But I do remember fondly these gorgeous women.

The thing is, gorgeous women know their worth usually, and unless your SMV is off the chart they won't be plated -or will stay plated very shortly.

I still like my life as it is though. Variety makes me forget about lower quality.

The-Battletoad · 2016-03-04T19:55:07+00:00

I've arrived at this point. Doesn't take any fear or bitterness, you've just got to realize that an LTR offers nothing that you can't get from a wide friend circle and some fuck buddies. Men will always fuck easy and without commitment, and good friends give the companionship that is desired.

RedTheFuckUp · 2016-03-02T02:59:38+00:00

Your journey sounds like what I'm starting and I'm excited for it however, do you have want kids? I'm not sure how I'm going to go about that in 5-8 years when I actually want something of a family, even if I don't ever actually get married.

Title	Life Without LTRs, part deux
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Date	March 1, 2016 9:07 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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