like father like son

Staple_Stable · 2014-03-03T01:05:52+00:00

My father was more redpill than me. I largely ignored his advice/examples when I was younger because I thought I was smarter than him. Turns out book smarts don't necessarily carry that well into life/relationships.

LordXerces · 2014-03-03T04:06:11+00:00

My father is Red Pill as fuck, and he served as a fantastic rolemodel for me when I was growing up. One of the first things my father told me was the difference between men and women. That women are entirely different from men in every regard. Never once did he portrey them as inferior.

I remember every time he met a woman, whether it was at 7-11 or in the shoe store, he would turn his charm on like a switch, and make the woman giggle. Every single time. No exceptions. And the prettier the girl, the more he would go for it. In a way, I believe a factor for this was that I was present, but I know that dirty old bastard still does that, and he's sixty now.

Now, my father is the very opposite of dark triad. He's an extremely kind and empathic man, but he has fucked a countless amount of women, and never in his life has a woman left him. My grandfather, on the other hand, was the living incarnation of a dark triad, and he could snap his fingers to make women fall to their knees.

There's this story of my grandfather that my father keeps bringing up from time to time. When my father was a child, my grandfather had a friend and a random woman over at his house. My dad was out playing by himself as the three of them were beginning to drink some foul liquor and get drunk. As the day went on, the sun was setting and my 9 year old dad was beginning to get quite hungry and cold, and my father had no other choice but to go inside. Despite being told not to, my dad went up to the house and entered quietly. The following image is still etched into his mind:

Grandpa is standing in the middle of the living room, poetry in one hand and his other hand in the air, standing there completely alpha and statuesque with the light from the sunset hitting his back, making him light up as if he was glorified by the light of Christ. The woman was on her knees in front of him, crying and screaming "YOU ARE AMAZING! YOU ARE INCREDIBLE! TAKE ME!". His friend had passed out drunk.

There are plenty of stories like this, both of my father and my grandfather. I have big shoes to fill.

SwordfshII · 2014-03-03T00:01:39+00:00

My mother is definately the lead in the household, coming up with plans, events, things to do and my dad just goes along with it (he doesn't seem to dislike it).

I was a natural in college, lots of women, focused on my own thing and it worked. My serious relationships though I slid into the too nice, too available and as a result they all ended, the women got bored and sought validation elsewhere.

Got into PUA and RP and did well but, once again assumed the backslide to nice guy and again same thing happened.

I kind of wish I didn't know what I know, it would be a lot less brutal.

bleh321 · 2014-03-02T23:44:34+00:00

I think it's safe to say. Most if not all of us who have found TRP have been in relationships in the past.

Once we swallowed TRP we have a sudden flash back of all the blue/beta moments in our lives and attempt to shift blame, when ultimately, it is within our own control of what we become

Xein · 2014-03-03T07:41:56+00:00

My dad seemed pretty red pill in general... Always self-employed, took no shit from people, knew everyone in town, and would always tell my brother and I to fight back against bullies and stand up for ourselves.

Sadly, he got blue-pilled by my mother who was very cold, selfish, and manipulative.. despite him providing for all of us and putting his heart and soul into his family, she blamed him for her unhappiness and divorced him. His temper was his flaw and ended up taking out a good bit of his anger with the marriage on me and my brother. He moved out when I was 12 or so. Due to my mom's influence and my dad taking out his anger on me I was duped into seeing him as a bad guy and identified more with the blue pill ways my mother was teaching me. After him moving out and seeing me less, I think he adopted more of a "buddy" approach and I didn't learn how to be a man.

As I became an adult and saw the truth of relationships I realized my mom manipulated me for years. I've been able to repair my relationship with my dad and finally learn some good things from him. Over time I've incorporated more of him into my personality and less of what my mom fed me. It's been freeing and TRP has also allowed me to see the kind of bullshit my father probably went through and why he was so angry about my mother.

vengefully_yours · 2014-03-03T09:33:53+00:00

My dad was banging a chick 14 years younger than him on the side, my mom got large and bitchy so dad hooked up with a chick who works in a bar, and isnt much older than I am. dad was nailing it for 12 years. He got caught, said it is what it is, played some dread game on mom, and she stayed. Mom still plays the victim card, but she has no intentions of leaving her bread winner for a life alone. Dad can pull tail, mom knows it, mom cant get the most desperate old guy interested. Just how it is.

They are late 60s now, dad was railing that chick in his 50s, and my mom was smart enough to know that if she left she would have a damn hard time surviving on her own. She knows from watching my sister who is divorced and both my ex wives that she would be living pretty shitty without my dad.

Growing up they fought all the time, mom is pretty bad about lying and harping on shit, dad would mostly ignore her bullshit and never let her wear the pants. Dad was abusive as hell to me, so I didnt really watch the dynamic between them, but looking back, i can see where I get the alpha, confidence, and the ability to bang chicks much younger than me despite not being great looking and well under 6' tall.

Blatant-Ballsack · 2014-03-03T09:37:53+00:00

Raised by both Mom and Dad to understand the hierarchy of the sexes. It is men at the top, and women underneath. Both told me to have respect for women, but if she doesn't submit to my authority than she is not worth my time. Never did teach me the importance of words in a fight, which is a good thing I think. Dad told me not to take shit from people, Mom told me not to give shit to people.

aaron_the_just · 2014-03-03T19:02:41+00:00

My dad's RP and my mom's RPW.

I spent a few years being a liberal progressive and trying to be a feminist. I also stopped having dates with women.

Then I got over that stupidity and now I realise my parents were basically right about everything.

eccentricrealist · 2014-03-03T00:20:39+00:00

Well, my father's pretty alpha. My mom's a hardcore, narcissist feminist who won't even listen to arguments that go against her "philosophy", but then again, that's most women nowadays. My fafther spent a lot of time away busting his ass working to keep us with a roof above our heads and food on our table (more so because my parents were 19) and then he couldn't stand it and left the house. Since my parents divorced I've been seeing him more and he more or less naturally came to view the world the way TRP does, and I've been learning from him since then. I never was a natural because whatever I felt I had to do was whatever I was told that was wrong. I never understood why I was better with flings but sucked at relationships until talking with my father and stumbling upon this subreddit.

youssarian · 2014-03-03T00:52:37+00:00

I've had 2 father figures in my life. I don't remember much about the first since he pretty much left my life when I was 12. Second father figure has a mix of alpha and beta traits. He's head of the household certainly, but has this "traditional" thing where my mother doesn't have to work. Mother has a way of taking advantage of him secretly. Me? I'm a beta Nice Guy in a lot of ways. Working on correcting that.

lolyzor · 2014-03-03T09:02:01+00:00

man my father is red pill as hell, he is the king of the house, and it gives me a head start on how to succeed in life by following his example.

HeadingRed · 2014-03-03T16:55:01+00:00

Keep in mind being "mr. nice guy" in a LTR is not being nice- if that kills the relationship, you're not so nice then are you?

What is nice is healthy stable relationship. And that requires a man not to be passive and take charge. Otherwise she will know she can't trust you and then you migrate from man to employee\child.

Glenbert · 2014-03-03T18:12:11+00:00

My dad is pretty hard to quantify. He, in his personal life, is more alpha than beta. He owns his own real estate business, makes good money, and has gone from being low on the totem pole to being one of the best appraisers in the state. His interactions with my mom are good. He uses dread game on occasion (jokingly), displays high worth, and keeps my mom in line with his desires.

My problem with him, and what seems to be his generation, is they don't know how to communicate, and therefore, didn't shape me, or my generation into men. I don't know if I ever got any dating advice before I was 20, and even after, he watched as I dated train wreck after train wreck, only to tell me afterwards that "yeah, she was a bad mach for you. I saw that from the beginning,".

A post on TRP called "I had a dad once" (I believe thats the right title) said it perfectly. I'm paraphrasing, but it went along the lines of you being in the pilots seat, about to crash the plane, when all along your dad was a fully qualified pilot, who just didn't say anything.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-03-04T15:10:20+00:00

My father is a BP pussy and a passive-aggressive "nice guy" who hates his wife and his life. He refused to stand up for himself his entire life and just disappeared, coaching, spending time outside the house, ignoring my mother. He never took charge, never controlled her erratic emotions, never stood up to her even once. Now she is directionless and hates him with a breathtaking loathing she could not possibly hold for the rapist of her children.

Deference and ignoring is NOT what women want.

Title	like father like son
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Date	March 2, 2014 10:30 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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