Old Dude Perspective

MattyAnon · 2017-04-28T14:18:27+00:00

I also have news for you...after marriage sex often becomes elusive and based on a reward

Take away message: lift, do not marry.

Do Not Marry

account0081 · 2017-04-28T17:16:58+00:00

I think we fear beautiful women because approaching one means competing with best of the best, top dogs, the guys you saw in the movies and maybe met once or twice in your life. You don't see them, but you are subconsciously feel that you are stepping on their territory. You'll be compared to them, and you feel like you are not on their level.

TheMeistervader · 2017-04-28T15:12:54+00:00

I was replying to someone and they deleted the comment.

I dint feel like wasting the effort. Here is the reply.

Beauty is derived from biological drivers. We look for symmetry and certain aspects in a person's physical appearance that instinctively makes us believe they will produce good offspring.

We could have just as well developed to prefer women with massive amounts of body hair and a sloping forehead.

Philosophically speaking who determines the benchmark for beauty? We, as men prefer hour glass figures because we instinctively know mother and child would have a higher chance of surviving birth. We prefer large breasts because they can produce larger quantities of nutrients for our offspring. We prefer long legs because our pregnant mate has a better chance to outrun predators on grassy plains. We prefer symmetry because it indicates less genetic flaws. We prefer large eyes to have better vision to see predators. We prefer youth because female eggs degrade over time and have a higher chance of producing offspring with defects. We prefer slimmer figures because they have better endurance to escape predators etc.

We could just as well have developed to prefer large overweight women of tremendous strength that can defeat predators instead of escaping predators.

It is arbitrary, with no benchmark. Just a biological predisposition to find a superior mate so that our offspring can compete and survive.

On the other hand women have biological instincts to find a superior mate with men. Strength, endurance, courage, fearless etc. Being tall is a number one requirement. Why? Because our ancestors developed on grassy plains. Tall mates could see predators at longer distances away. The bad boy is not so much a bad boy as a biological throwback that has appealing biological characteristics.

You like what you like because of your genetics. These days it does not matter. We have progressed faster than our genetics can keep up. An ugly wealthy woman is probably a better mother for your offspring as wealth not physical characteristics now determine the outcome of the competition for resources.

sqerl · 2017-04-28T14:31:58+00:00

Thanks for your post. It's a truthful evaluation of your life and reality. It's also devoid of anger which drives many contentious posts. Really, it's a field report spanning an entire life. Great stuff!

Much of what TRP has to offer is a review of life from the end and bringing it to the forefront of life. Many people say they wish they knew TRP when they were 16. You appear to be a fortunate one that had the alpha trait from the beginning. Guys that come here hurt from a relationship get the pill to wake them up.

With regards to dreading and sex within a marriage... I know where you're coming from. Keep in mind that TRP has its basis in sexual strategy, so advice is about how to secure, acquire, or prevent the loss of sex. Regardless of how successful a field report can be, there will always be a suggestion on how to optimize your strategy further. Sometimes this is done less for the OP and more for the general reading population.

That all being said, thank you. I hope younger guys realize competition, success, and conquering fears is all part of being a man. They should all embrace their masculinity and strive for their genetic best.

Forcetobereckonedwit · 2017-04-28T17:18:54+00:00

Embrace the new feminism and the fact that it releases men from all cultural accountability and responsibility. You are a man. You were meant to breed. You were meant to conquer. You were meant to win. Live your life on your terms and discard all of the crap that is not essential to making you happy.

There it is...

SirGaetanDugas · 2017-04-28T15:59:46+00:00

Do whatever you want with your life, its your life

.......thats old dude wisdom.

Thanks for sharing

man0man · 2017-04-28T18:15:43+00:00

I fucking love old dude posts. Pure wisdom and experience untainted by the jargon and group-think.

Adamn27 · 2017-04-28T14:40:59+00:00

Thanks for your toughts man. Really made me think about a thing or two. It's always good to hear someone with great experience.

BoobToArmRatio · 2017-04-28T15:41:16+00:00

Great post, with a very reasonable perspective. As time goes on and the institution of marriage further degrades, those of us who want to propagate our genetics will have a lot of difficult decisions to make.

max_peenor · 2017-04-28T15:50:59+00:00

We no longer have to compete for resources like we once did. Old Dude here is a slave of his genetics that drives him to over-compete

It's still necessary, just not in this very moment. Look at the common ones bee. They horde an obscene over abundance of nectar; so much so we can raid them ruthlessly and not affect the swarm at all. Obscene over abundance until a meteor hits the earth and takes away their flower supply for a decade. Then it's just the right amount.

Hoarding is a very natural behavior and women are very good at it. A lot of seemingly bizarre behavior is directly tied to it.

RedPillStoryTime · 2017-04-28T14:51:04+00:00

we all pay for sex in one way or another.

Reminds me of a the Chris Rock bit

Trey_Mays123 · 2017-04-28T13:53:15+00:00

What do you mean by "New Feminism"?

TopKekSkye · 2017-04-28T15:52:08+00:00

I really liked this post. Thanks for sharing!

Mckallidon · 2017-04-28T16:40:52+00:00

Yeah! You remind me of all the dudes that taught me right when I was younger. Hell yeah OP.

Rufferto_n_Groo · 2017-04-28T17:31:04+00:00

Post was good; Also provides a very tangible example why Neophytes should not break the marriage rule.

Keep in mind that Mastery grants the desire for challenge, the tools for risk management, and the wisdom to know when to break the rules.

19RomeoQuebec · 2017-04-28T20:25:39+00:00

I love when old people post, because they were raised in a different timeframe and culture. It brings a nostalgic feel to the sub.

I cant herald your post though, this information you bring is basic knowledge around here.

On a side note, I read some of the post, I agree old people especially old alpha men can be very rascally. I was at a grocery store, old guy in a wheel chair got impatient and tried to call me out. I would have killed the guy with my kung fu iron fists, but after the heated discussion. I left laughing to myself mumbling "Fucking Old Guy". It was so funny, because that is how I see myself when I am that fucking old.

boston_rex · 2017-04-28T21:42:52+00:00

What was the controversy this time?

CopperFox3c · 2017-04-28T13:46:44+00:00

I also have news for you...after marriage sex often becomes elusive and based on a reward. Like you are some kind of puppy deserving of a 'good boy', or 'bad boy' based on your accomplishment. Rollover and get your belly rubbed....

I have news for you: if you're wife is withholding sex and intimacy like this, then you are not doing it right. Go check out the Married Red Pill and read up on the 12 Levels of Dread.

Your wife sounds like she has become complacent, unafraid to lose you. Yet fear is the heart of love. That is the core dynamic that keeps the fires in any relationship stoked. I know you are new here, but stay, read, and learn.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-04-28T19:55:58+00:00

/u/firetempered would proably would have some insight for you. He's in his 60s now. as is /u/samsonbrass

ImatWorkfuck · 2017-04-28T23:09:31+00:00

well said Old Dude....well said

TermsOfColors · 2017-04-28T14:47:53+00:00

Embrace the new feminism and the fact that it releases men from all cultural accountability and responsibility.

I don't know much about feminism or "new" feminism, but I haven't seen much evidence that men have less accountability or responsibility. At least not in the circles I travel in or in my personal interactions. I don't keep up with internet memes or pop culture trends.

VickVaseline · 2017-04-28T15:54:23+00:00

Greetings and welcome from another old dude.

Don't forget to read the sidebar if you haven't already.

SpeakerToRedditors · 2017-04-28T18:15:29+00:00

Great essay, Thanks Old dude

Magistario · 2017-04-28T20:02:14+00:00

aah the wisdom of old age. If only age was not the price to pay for it.

Thanks "old dude", someone had to say it.

meninistMD · 2017-04-28T20:05:13+00:00

I believe you are indeed an old guy because the lack of flair in this post.

vvancruz · 2017-04-28T20:22:39+00:00

. I also have news for you...after marriage sex often becomes elusive and based on a reward. Like you are some kind of puppy deserving of a 'good boy', or 'bad boy' based on your accomplishment. Rollover and get your belly rubbed....

I agree with most of what you say, but this comment here is your own doing. Improve yourself to the point that she wants you or better yet that other women desire you. Since one cannot negociate desire, it must be earned. Even though you are 'old' and financially well off and that helps, it does not offer a guarantee. I am a relatively old dude as well and nothing gets my woman more turned on than when she sees other women paying attention to me. Dress well, eat well, and lift. Arnold is old, still lifts, and still gets his dick wet.

ForgedInProdigy · 2017-04-28T21:22:28+00:00

I enjoyed your post. It reminded me of a time where I had met two men in their 60's in Costa Rica, I think they were ex-pats. We talked about alcohol, women, surfing... There was no pretension, just guys talking and drinking.

plutosheen · 2017-04-28T23:27:03+00:00

I agree with everything except the marrying and chase tail on the side bit. The legal and financial consequences are too destructive. Better to spin plates if you're going for polyamory.

aldokn · 2017-04-29T03:19:30+00:00

Quality post. What happened?

blr1998 · 2017-04-28T15:12:35+00:00

How can you call yourself the embodiment of an alpha male if you cannot hold your shit together in the presence of hot women?

TheSnorlaxGym · 2017-04-28T17:28:37+00:00

Funny about that MEPS moment, thats what happened to me at the recruiting station, "Do you want to go airborne?" Um sure i guess. Never even flew on a plane before i was jumping out of one. Wasnt as fun as i thought it be, like not scary, I mean boring. A lot of hurry up and wait for a fleeting moment jumping out of a plane

aldokn · 2017-04-28T21:01:24+00:00

Boss post.

Sometimes fat women have the best personalities and they don't have 30 men a day swooning over then.

liquidocean · 2017-04-28T22:13:51+00:00

thanks, but despite the parts about your personal self, all just old news that we all know and embrace.

i'm sorry but i failed to see any "old dude wisdom" that is not something that wasn't in the sidebar already one way or another

ballerina12-24 · 2017-04-28T22:01:33+00:00

I think evolution clearly is telling us that losers like yourself aren't meant to breed but go extinct :-) .

xxthrow2 · 2017-04-28T16:21:06+00:00

This Old guy reeks of a beta male. real alpha men don't stoop low to marry asian women

loknarash · 2017-04-28T19:06:27+00:00

Hi old dude. I just wanted to let you know that you are a spineless race traitor, if only for valuing other women over your own tribe's. She's a gook, right? She's either a gook or a Chink, a guy like you couldn't handle a Jap. Bet you are really happy only X chromosomes were shooting out of your low test dick your whole life. God forbid you'd have to raise a hapa male, then you'd have to seriously consider how deep down you don't value and perhaps even despise yourself, because you'd see those same qualities in your son.

Why didn't you fuck a white girl? Don't dodge the question with why not a gook, answer the fucking question. Let's see if you've really swallowed the red pill, or if you just have no one in your life that can put you in your place and you have been lying to yourself for years to cope with your self-hating choices. Are your girls white? Are they Asian? Are they both? Do they exist to be sex toys for my sons or I in this degenerate outcome independent world you claim we all live in? Do you give a shit what kind of women they become or what kind of world they will live in, or is it all about being a desperately hedonistic and mentally vacuous piece of shit because we are beholden to no one?

You are about as red pilled as a foot up the ass. All I got from your post is you, like all men, have a lot of regrets, but you don't face up to them, but rather are desperate to escape from them. You don't deserve validation for your gutless behavior, and the karma you are getting just goes to show how this board has gone to shit over the years.

Title	Old Dude Perspective
Author	TheMeistervader
Upvotes	341
Comments	101
Date	April 28, 2017 1:11 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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