Race-flavored sour grapes?

nrb1985 · 2013-07-24T08:07:14+00:00

Many non-Asians fail to see how slyly dominating Asian women, particularly Chinese, can be. There's so many weak white guys that get walked over by their Chinese SO's.

VeryWideDoucheNozzle · 2013-07-24T15:23:47+00:00

I am assuming when you guys say Asian it doesn't include Indian men.

As an Indian man:

I get rejected all the time, I have never attributed that to my race. May be because rejection rates are pretty consistent across all races. But I tend to fair much better with Indian women for obvious reasons.
I don't care what race Indian girls date, the only time I see a "normal looking" Indian girl with a thugged out non-Indian man is when it gets a little uneasy for me. I guess the blue pill savior in me trying to be a white knight.

HarleyWalker · 2013-07-24T06:59:16+00:00

I think it's natural to feel jaded by women fom your group rejecting their own men. I've seen black and white guys also get angry over black and white women dating out, particularly black guys when that hot yellow-bone goes out with a white guy. If anything I would suggest it's an alpha trait to feel more negatively toward it. Of course it's always loaded with hypocrisy.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-07-24T13:29:36+00:00

Black women want the successful black men to themselves. They see a successful black man with a woman of another race and take it personally.

Alaskan_worm · 2013-07-24T09:40:24+00:00

What's going on here?

Asian men are low on the totem pole. For the most part Asian men got the shit end of the stick with the genetic lottery. That's why you rarely see Asian men dating outside their race, they are seen as too submissive. Black women are lowest on the totem pole for women, they are seen as too aggressive.

RedSunBlue · 2013-07-24T13:15:02+00:00

Asian women don't care? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarong_party_girl

anonomatey · 2013-07-25T00:06:12+00:00

This couldn't be more incorrect. You must be a non-Asian man, to say such a silly thing. I don't mean this to be offensive, but there is a lot at play that you are 1) not exposed to, because you're a *mon-Asian and a man, so people don't bother to talk to you about it and 2) you might see some of it and choose to ignore it. I would know, I am a White American woman who is married to a Japanese (born and raised) man.

There are insecure and secure people in all ethnicities, nationalities and in both sexes.

Racism, insecurity and ignorance tend to feed off of each other and manifest together into a child-like and angry human being.

This results in some people from all of these groups saying rude things and lashing out like angry toddlers. This is not sex-related or race-related. Child-like adults are quite literally everywhere. We are in a large sea of them. You cannot escape, do not bother trying, it is a complete waste of time and energy. Learn to ignore them and move forward as my husband and I have done for most of our lives. That is really the only option (assuming you want to be part of society).

Most people approve of our relationship. We are fortunate to live in an area where there are many other couples like us and most people don't notice, we are normal.

However, there are times when we receive negative attention and catty, insecure and ignorant comments, rude stares and disrespect. The two guilty parties are always White men and Asian women. Every. Single. Time. Neither of us have had a negative experience with people from other demographics.

My husband and I have both publicly humiliated foolish White men, in the US and in Japan, for their disgusting behavior. They can clearly see that we are married and they make weak attempts to hit on me, as if they have a cold chance in hell. We do not like this, we have done nothing to deserve this. But there are some bitchy, petty, White men who think they are the top of the totem pole and it's really brutish and nasty. It just makes my husband look that much better. Some White men respond very negatively when they see one of "their" women with a non-White man, especially an east Asian man. They think east Asian men are weak. This is incorrect. My husband is an incredible person and very masculine. I do not need a White man. If I wanted a White man, I would have married my ex. I did not. I left him for a better man. That better man happened to be Japanese.

And east Asian women get very jealous and catty. My husband is shorter, but he has a handsome face, he's very manly and he shows that with the way he carries himself. He was not raised in the US as an Asian American, feeling emasculated by the sick and racist American culture. He knows he is a man and he acts like one. They see that he is with a thin and young-looking White woman and some of them become quite angry. He's lost female Japanese friends because of this, but he doesn't mind. Their loss, not his. They do not dare hit on him with me around like White men try to do, at least they are a little bit smarter than the White men.

We have dealt with this for years, now. Please do not ignorantly speak for situations that you have not experienced. I'm glad you have traveled and you are seeing Japan. It's a nice place, I've been there, too. But you have not lived in our shoes and you do not see what we see. So do not assume these things.

And the idea that Asian women are more feminine is also foolish. They are typically incredibly demanding, completely dominate the home life and I've seen them figuratively run men down after the first date. And that is considered normal behavior for women in these cultures. They exhibit many extremely masculine behaviors and it works in their societies. Many of my east Asian female friends are flabbergasted that I "allow" my husband to spend his extra money the way he wants to, I let him wear what he wants and grow out his hair, I let him go out with his male friends and I give him space. These are foreign concepts to east Asian women.

*Non-Asian, in this case, refers to people who appear to be non-east Asian and also east Asian people who are raised in non-east Asian societies because they (understandably) will behave and carry themselves differently, compared to east Asian people, and are recognized as foreign to east Asian people. These are generalizations, so there are always exceptions, of course.

VZPurp · 2013-07-24T07:02:31+00:00

Competition based on group-identity.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-07-24T07:44:53+00:00

It's the hamster wheel trying to rationalize the thought of being lesser value to "your" men due to race.

Title	Race-flavored sour grapes?
Author	RedSunBlue
Upvotes	5
Comments	60
Date	July 24, 2013 6:29 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1ixwe5/raceflavored_sour_grapes/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/race-flavored-sour-grapes.5779 https://theredarchive.com/post/5779

Comments