Recent pill taker, quick question on hamster excuse

enticingasthatmaybe · 2013-07-03T00:39:09+00:00

Prepare for your LTR to jump ship at 27 unless you're a Steve McQueen or Shawn Connery type alpha. 27 is their last chance for a sizable hypergamy jump and will almost always bring out the unhaaaaappppy.

You can't throw a water balloon in a bar filled with 30 something dudes and not hit one that's been dumped by a 27 year old woman.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-07-03T00:28:44+00:00

She found another guy. ):

fuk_offe · 2013-07-03T00:32:34+00:00

"I just want to feel butterflies again"

Hypergamy bro. Hang on, hit the gym, invest in you.

EricDisco · 2013-07-03T13:36:40+00:00

This sub is all about the truth so I won't sugarcoat it for you and say you "dodged a bullet." All signs point to the obvious, what you pointed out already: that you slipped into beta behavior.

It is possible to maintain a monogamous relationship where the woman is excited and you can maintain that relationship at any level of seriousness you want (casual, serious/monogamous). The fact that she wanted kids and you didn't does not account for the fact that she said she wasn't feeling butterflies or put you in friend zone. You need to work on your game and be more alpha in your relationships or this will happen to you again.

TerrorTanuki · 2013-07-03T08:03:08+00:00

Wait for it......

johnsmith66 · 2013-07-03T04:15:57+00:00

If a girl breaks up with you because she wants to feel butterflies, then she isn't ready for a long-term relationship. Expecting to feel butterflies all the time is the type of thing that a 14 year old girl expects. Adults who have been in a long-term relationship don't expect that they will feel butterflies all the time. Those feelings usually go away after a couple months.

IllimitableMan · 2013-10-21T13:22:13+00:00

Had this LTR recently (probably the last one for a while, knowing what I learned here) where the girl ended things. Her BS excuse: "I want marriage and kids and he doesn't".

It sounds like a credible reason on the surface, but if a woman loves you more than she loves her fucking dream of a fairy-fuelled princess disney marriage then she'll be more than willing to settle for cohabitation. This suggests you didn't have her under the psychological thumb aka weren't alpha enough and this is just BS to leave. I wouldn't really get to caught up on that, as this experience will push you in the direction you need to go to be alpha enough for a chick whose actually worth it in the future. Generally when you're in beta mode you take shit off women that you shouldn't, you demean yourself and live in a state of scarcity because you don't think you can replace her, you project this to her, she sees it and thus she treats you accordingly, like shit.

Now, even though I didn't want kids/marriage (and I certainly dodged a bullet in that regard)

Yes you did dodge a bullet there because the two of you are not compatible for shit, read previous paragraph for reminders on why that is, lack of alphaness, her being more manipulative than you are etc.

she also told a friend-in-common a couple of things, such as: "I feel we're more like friends now, not bf/gf" and "I just want to feel butterflies again".

Haha, now the real truths come out. I'm assuming your friend in common was a male because unless this chick really really really liked you (as in wants your dick likes you) she would not divulge that kind of information to you unless it was mis-information, women are very much part of a sisterhood and only backstab each other opportunistically when they think they can gain more by betraying the sisterhood. Let's dissect the quotes directly anyway:

"I feel we're more like friends now, not bf/gf"

What this basically means is she's lost sexual attraction to you, but is still very comfortable/confident/safe around you. This is the natural life cycle of a relationship where the man becomes complacent and stops flirting/teasing/gaming/keeping the bitch on her toes, complacency is a slow killer my man, things deteriorate into an ongoing state of mediocrity and bit by bit as the boredom grows and the drama/feelInGz!!! decline she loses attraction and grows bored. What you have to remember is her attraction to you is mostly physical and your attraction to her is mostly mental, if you're boring as shit and not adonis himself the relationship won't fucking last, you definitely slipped into friendzone beta mode here if the bitch is bored.

"I just want to feel butterflies again".

This is directly linked to the other quote. You have bored the fucking shit out of her. She wants excitement again and you weren't giving it to her, so she'll start looking to other guys to get it. She wants an upgrade. She thinks she can do better and deserves to, she wants to feel the way she felt when she first got with you. You can never stop gaming a chick, once you have her, you can't get relaxed and kick back, there's never time to relax, this shit is war!!!

What I take from that is I may have reversed to beta behavior at some point, and her rationalization was to say the things about marriage/kids. If relevant, I'm 27, she's almost 27 as well. We were ~1 year in the LTR.

Ding-ding-ding! Yes, our egos have a habit of deluding us and protecting us from ourselves so we think things we definitely did "may have" happened. You haven't given details about how much shit you put up with, what you paid for/bought her, how many times you ended up cuddling but didn't fuck or anything like that so I don't know just how beta you went, but what I do know is you stopped gaming the chick once the initial honeymoon period wore off, so yeah, you went beta because you stopped locking that bitch down and thus it went to shit, the more bored and unhappy she became, the bolder she would have become in her bullshit no doubt.

She never mentioned anything to me (actually didn't even explain her reasons for breaking up, I found out about everything through the friend, then went into strict no-contact); but up until 1 week before she ended it, she was always saying how great I was, how much she wanted to see me, etc.

Sounds like she's moving on to the next guy if she just fucking out of there. A 27 year old woman wanting babies and marriage commitment, leaves her LTR to be single? Fuck no, that's a downgrade. She was staying with you until she could branch swing to a beta who would facilitate her dream of family or an alpha who was exciting enough to "make her feel butterflies again" , no doubt she'll be trying to get the alpha to cum inside her so she can sperm-jack him and force a baby into the world. Fucking crazy bitches. Don't get caught up on the compliments, they're a facade and they don't mean shit - she's throwing you those bones to see if she can maintain a friendzone, draw boyfriend benefits from you without giving up the pussy, don't be fooled by that bullshit.

Apparently the whole thing was "triggered" by a friend's question about her future with me (aka marriage). I actually kept a conscious effort not to show any beta behavior, even though that doesn't mean I didn't slip at some point.

Women will ALWAYS push for commitment, women in the late 20's and early 30's are desperate for children if they haven't already had them, it's a biological calling. Do not be forced into shit. If you look at the woman you're with and think "I don't want her to be the mother of my children" then you have to go with your gut, don't let her craziness push you into shit you don't want, kids deserve two parents who are compatible with each other and each want the kid, no less, there's no half measures with kids you go all in or you don't fucking bother.

To be honest this wasn't the only nail in the coffin (for her) it was the final nail in the coffin. You went beta in the relationship, by saying you don't want kids you basically told the bitch "if you go fuck some alpha, keep his baby and try and pass it off as mine, I'll leave your ass" as the beta your major sticking point (reason for her to stay with you) was the security you could provide her and your safeness, when you weren't being alpha and you weren't giving security as a beta she had essentially fuck all reason to be with you - you had no inherent use or purpose to her, she certainly wasn't perceiving you as alpha because bitches don't get bored around alphas they fall in love with them for laying down the law and giving direction/stability/fEeEeEeLLLz!

Go on the self improvement track (you saw my other post, so you don't need me to re-paste that here again), if you really loved this girl, use your failure as a source of motivation to better yourself. If you get the opportunity to hit it again, strap the fuck up because no doubt if she gets desperate enough she'll come sniffing for sperm.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-07-03T00:52:21+00:00

Sounds like you did a good job.

1: Didn't give her babies.

2: Made her go away, but not go away mad.

Is the friend sexy?

Title	Recent pill taker, quick question on hamster excuse
Author	insaneyoshi
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Date	July 2, 2013 11:44 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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