Rule number 1

KartagoPill · 2016-06-02T05:18:37+00:00

This is like telling women:

Rule number 1: Have big boobs.

Rule number 2: Don't have small boobs.

reddditreddditreddd · 2016-06-01T20:37:04+00:00

You're going to get a lot of "advice" on this thread about how you just need confidence, bigger muscles, dress nicer, etc.

The cold, hard truth is that there are plenty of women who will never be interested in you. Never. But, there are plenty of women who will find you attractive.

As a short man myself, I've found that short women detest short men. Short women tend to date the largest men they can find. I'm sure it has something to do with their own insecurities. They'd rather date some fat, lumbering sasquatch that a short dude.

Tall, attractive women don't have the same insecurities. They'll date anybody who makes them tingle.

NightwingTRP · 2016-06-01T23:36:33+00:00

This one comes up from time to time on here. Height is similar to race or facial features. You can't control it, you're stuck with it. If you're asian it's an automatic -1 to your SMV. It sucks... but life isn't fair and you've got to step past it.

Now height is a bugger in some respects, because I personally believe it's an automatic -2 to your SMV. However, that doesn't mean you can't bang hot chicks. I'm not tall and even as blooper I wasn't doing too badly. Develop presence and status and your height really doesn't matter at all.

You may get rejected based upon your height... but you can also get rejected for all sorts of other dumb shit due to the girl's fee-fees at the time. It's only the chicks in the mid-range who'll reject you for height. Tall girls won't and neither will most petite girls (my personal preference.)

Maybe your game needs work? Does your physique need more work? How about your style? Have you tried using women as social proof? There's a plethora of ways to improve your SMV... -1 or -2 is irrelevant because you can raise it back up by 6 or 7 points if you're sharp enough.

To correct your rules:

Rule 1: Be attractive.
Rule 2: Don't be unattractive.

Fagbasher01 · 2016-06-02T01:51:01+00:00

If your close to average height i wouldn't worry about it. I'm 5' 9" and I've had them taller and shorter. Some women just won't want you. This is a numbers game. One of them will

TerminalForm · 2016-06-02T10:32:35+00:00

Being noticeably short (5"7' or less) is a disadvantage, no doubt about it. I myself am only 5"6' and sometimes feel like I get tossed aside.

HOWEVER, I have a friend who's 5'4 and he has fucked more HB8 and above girls than anyone else I know of. He's a top tennis player with a really Chad face. The women he pulls range from really hot blondes to classy brunettes.

I think not being facially attractive and shortness together is completely detrimental. But I feel a lot of girls can get over the shortness if you've got good facial features (a strong jaw is fucking vital) and a fit body that shows.

Another really strange insight is that short caucasian men do much more poorly than short ethnic men. I don't know if this is empirically proven, but at least where I'm from, short (but ripped) Asian and darker complexion men fair pretty well.

Sir_Distic · 2016-06-02T00:11:52+00:00

I'm 5'6". I don't give a fuck if a woman doesn't like my height. I'll pass her shit tests. If she still doesn't want me she can fuck off. I'll find one who does.

knightSwolaire · 2016-06-01T21:43:35+00:00

The only short guys I know that do very well... One is in great shape and one is jacked as fuck.

2016-06-01T21:48:35+00:00

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Darkredsubmarine · 2016-06-01T21:55:17+00:00

You should really use asktrp for this. It's a related subreddit.

Newbosterone · 2016-06-01T23:49:33+00:00

Mickey Fuckin' Rooney. Married 8 times, including an actress considered the most beautiful woman in Hollywood, Ava Gardner. 5'2".

Borsao66 · 2016-06-02T14:14:12+00:00

Wait...

I thought rule #1 was don't stick your dick in crazy.

MeatCurtainRod · 2016-06-02T16:08:43+00:00

bullshit. You're angry, I get it. It isn't the height that turns her off. It is your lack of confidence and charisma.

WeedDaddy · 2016-06-02T23:10:10+00:00

Here's an executive summary on the topic:

http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/anabolic-lounge-off-topic-discussion/139576d1369926112-whats-manlet-height-fstnwgt.jpg

SurferGirl_Chi · 2016-06-07T04:16:05+00:00

I thought Rule 1 was we don't talk about fight club.

prodigy2throw · 2016-06-01T20:23:34+00:00

You gotta work as hard as you can. If you want to get laid and date/ fuck high smv women you need the confidence of a rockstar and the social status of one. Find a way to become a minor celebrity even if it's within a small social circle.

Do some presentations at industry meet ups in a field you work in or are passionate about. Become a promoter or organize parties, fundraisers. Take up photography and get some insta followers.

Sadly you drew the short stick in life and shit is hard mode. Either quit and bang whores or step your shit up fam.

2016-06-01T20:29:26+00:00

my uncles were short but most of them managed to get good looking wives...they all have a very confident attitude though

Rebikhan · 2016-06-01T20:46:59+00:00

The trick is not give a shit about being invisible. You're on your own path, living your own life and accomplishing the goals you want to accomplish. Someone wants to come along for the ride? Cool. No? Their loss.

But yah, fuck all the PUA bullshit about height not mattering to SMV. It's marketing to get a bigger audience of marks. It's an uncontrollable factor in attraction, so you just got to accept it and keep on lovin' life.

Readinglevelup · 2016-06-01T20:58:03+00:00

I've noticed many guys on TRP think that physical appearance matters more than it actually does (mainly because they put a lot of importance on appearance so they assume it's the same for women). When we look at women, it matters a lot to us, but it matters way less for women. UNLESS, you're on an app like Tinder or any online dating. Then, it will matter more because that's one of the only things the women have to go on.

In real life, there are a ton of factors that matter to women. Looks and height are definitely factors, but they don't matter as much as you think. You just don't see a lot of short and ugly guys pulling gorgeous women because they lack confidence and they are insecure AND they lack two of the many factors. Your SMV definitely takes a hit, but you can find ways to make up for it.

2016-06-01T21:23:24+00:00

As a guy who's barely over 5'8" I've been rejected for height.

Will a short man bang 10s? Probably not.

But by working out you'll do better being short and jacked vs short and fat

nice_and_friendly · 2016-06-01T20:12:44+00:00

ever heard of cesar millan? he's a world famous dog trainer. 5'5 but his body language is amazing. you can learn more about how to carry yourself, and how to maintain frame from watching that guy than you ever will reading TRP. check this out. he could have almost any woman he wanted, i am 100% sure. so dont act like its totally hopeless. a disadvantage, surely, but its not an immediate game over.

Title	Rule number 1
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Date	June 1, 2016 8:03 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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