Some thoughts from someone new here

curious97 · 2014-09-06T22:57:56+00:00

What is your experience with dropping frame and letting her have power later in the relationship?

don't. you will regret it.

-Will I have to game her forever?

pretty much.

this is not from personal experience but rather from having read a ton of first-person accounts on here.

AreYouAware_ · 2014-09-06T22:34:45+00:00

Thoughts?

Lurk more. Post less.

SkorchZang · 2014-09-06T22:59:30+00:00

As you put in more and more time in with a woman it gets ever harder to maintain the right frame, the woman will wear it down. At around the 2-4 year mark almost all LTRs will start to naturally fizzle out.

It's better to expect every LTR to have a definite expiry date, even if you don't verbalize it to her. Those things are not forever. But the longer you resist her, the longer you're likely to hold out!

She is always a woman, not your "partner" or "friend".

TheSKSpecial · 2014-09-06T23:42:46+00:00

5 years married here.

What is your experience with dropping frame and letting her have power later in the relationship?

Don't do it. Surefire way to fail. Many a married and divorced man here will attest that dropping frame is one of the primary things that either killed or almost killed their relationships. It gets the ball rolling for anything else that follows.

From someone who has been in a long term relationship-Will I have to game her forever?

Yep. Moreso due to western culture itself. Women aren't being encouraged to commit, they're being told to "explore" (read: chase the tingles) with the expectation that somebody will come along later. So if you want to keep her committed to you, you pretty much have to keep her tingling for the duration.

johnnywahd · 2014-09-06T23:10:02+00:00

Wouldn't thinking about how what she needs/wants in a man is a surrogate father figure/protector provider apply here, in that she does not want a weak provider/protector ever? And this could be the rationale behind the never-ending tests?I think it's wise to learn as much as possible about her childhood and continuing relationship with her father. I believe it tells a lot. My last g/f has a confrontational/strained relationship with her father. The father of her two boys was the classic badboy jerk-type asshole who verbally and physically abused her. Go figure. If she ever comes around again, as an experiment I'm going full-asshole on her just to see how she reacts.

MasterBaiterX · 2014-09-06T23:15:13+00:00

You should lurk TRPwomen, most of them aren't looking for random hookups, they look for a strong "captain". You have to go in with a leader frame, not a fun one night stand frame.

Or at least switch to that frame once it gets serious.

jamieoneal82 · 2014-09-06T23:15:28+00:00

I dropped frame and SMV for about 6 months (depression, porn addiction, complaining about job stress all the time, etc) only to catch my wife cheating on me with my (former) best friend. As far as I can tell it had been going on for several months when I found out. It's taken me over a year to deal with it both emotionally and in terms of fixing the marriage. TRP was a life-saver in this regard.

(inb4 "get a divorce". I know that's the standard TRP line, but right now things are better then ever. Now she cooks, cleans, fucks, sucks, and even doesn't mind that I have plates. Plus, other than the cheating (which I blame mostly on myself failing in the relationship and on my friend for enabling and manipulating her) she does a pretty good unicorn impression.)

kingofpoplives · 2014-09-07T00:43:59+00:00

Read this:

http://www.personalpowermeditation.com/forum/social-dynamics/the-betaization-process/

Then go cry in the shower, cowered in the fetal position for a few hours.

The reality of LTRs is that bad.

mega_beta · 2014-09-07T00:52:34+00:00

I notice a lot of married guys who have fickle wives have let themselves go a bit. Usually the guy gets comfortable and lazy, gets a belly, them his wife goes and gets a boob job, or tries to make herself mroe appealing to other guys somehow. It's all downhill from there.

SoftHarem · 2014-09-07T07:09:45+00:00

Welcome.

To answer your questions: Don't make a habit out of either. Yes.

Details: /u/occamsusername/submitted

LibertarianLibertine · 2014-09-07T10:27:32+00:00

My experience with dropping frame and letting her have power in the relationship:

She dumped my ass, cold-heartedly.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-09-08T16:41:44+00:00

What is your experience with dropping frame and letting her have power later in the relationship?

/r/deadbedrooms

From someone who has been in a long term relationship-Will I have to game her forever?

Yes. Game must be internalized so that it becomes who you are. After a while it is not a game any more.

things like being vulnerable when you are at a low

/r/deadbedrooms

compromising when you see differently on an issue.

Of course! The TRP model is Captain/First Officer NOT Master/Slave. If your FO has a different idea or even a better one a good Captain listens, and asks for "Options" just like Captain Picard always did.

Title	Some thoughts from someone new here
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Date	September 6, 2014 10:11 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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