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[–]1jcromero21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
So the shit test, in abstract, is meant to test your leadership. And so with that said you have to consider the reason WHY one would want to test your leadership. Women shit test the most during two phases: initial attraction phase and when a relationship is on the rocks (i.e when they're unhappy).
RULE OF THUMB: Women typically like to be teased and subtly and not-so-subtly dominated, men like to be pleased and treated sweet with affection.
There is one distinct deviation that people need to be aware of. Some women will shit test mercilessly because they think it BUILDS attraction. They've literally confused GUY game with GIRL game. It comes off as extremely awkward at best, really rude at worst. These girls are either really clumsy or really broken. Be on alert for this new emerging type of female response.
Example: I once went on a date and this girl killed the mood by telling me about how she was fired, evicted from her apartment, and was kicked out of school all in the same week. I'm sure she could sense the attraction slipping fast. Her solution: While I went to the bathroom she invited two strangers (both men) to sit at our table and join us on our date. It was a nuclear shit test and a total breach of common courtesy. I left immediately and never returned her (many) calls.
[–]Thesegates 13 points13 points13 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Oh man. Amazing point.
I had this happen recently with an HB8. Shit tested me almost every sentence from the second we met. Very unattractive and I sat there, laughing in my head. The potential plate, turned into, a me so turned off, I never want to see her again. She's still texting me shit tests. I don't even respond mainly because I'm set with her. Annoying and unattractive.
The most recent one was, "you seem offish and I don't understand why you're not responding. I have to be honest with you, I was seeing someone and the fling lasted longer than I thought, that's why I couldn't hang out with you until a week after we met. Is this what is going on with you?"
As if her fucking someone else when we met or her talking to two guys at once was suppose to attract me haha.
[–]iLLprincipLeS 10 points10 points10 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
She's still texting me shit tests.
it's like a maze of desperation. the longer you ignore them, the more they hamster around.
..no wonder some just call the cops on you, to get to you.
officer donut, this bad boy wanted to rape me, but now he does not want anymore, but it was rape. please arrest him so i can visit him in prison. i know he will have no pussy there so he either turns gay and never fucks another woman again, or I WILL FINALLY GET what i dreamt of
[–]Thesegates 4 points4 points4 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm going to buy a micro camera and tape recorder and wear it constantly. Paranoia?
[–]Joseph_the_Carpenter1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago [recovered] [recovered] [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link
Paranoia?
That depends, how rich are you?
[–]1jcromero5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ugh, SERIOUSLY. Broken broken women
[–]howard3332 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
There is one distinct deviation that people need to be aware of.
I swear, every 6+ has become a hysterical shit test robot by the time they hit 23. This ain't normal.
[–]MeltzerDriver 1 points1 points1 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
you seem offish and I don't understand why you're not responding. I have to be honest with you, I was seeing someone and the fling lasted longer than I thought, that's why I couldn't hang out with you until a week after we met. Is this what is going on with you?"
Haha that hamster is going into overtime. Soon enough she'll literally be texting you to come over and smash.
Don't respond.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Her solution: While I went to the bathroom she invited two strangers (both men) to sit at our table and join us on our date
My mind is blow sometimes at how unaware and out of touch with reality some bitches are.
[–]howard3333 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As long as clowns keep dancing for that hole, they'll keep it up.
[–]moose_war2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was a nuclear shit test
What a mess she made
When it all went wrong
[–]david_kimba11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women/others do not have shit on my demons. My demons are always preying inside of me and sleeping with half an eye open. They are ruthless and unforgiving, they test my resolve every waking second. It's solely my responsibility to keep them in check and get to know them.
But my demons are my most loyal companions, they will not forgive me if i break my word, they will tear me apart if i become weak and they will not accept defeat untill i outgrow them. And even then, i am not sure you can really kill them completely. They evolve with you and manifest in other ways.
Your demons should be the culprit of your strengths. Your demons have been molding you into what you are ever since you came out of the uterus. You have been living with your fear, your self hate, your indecision, your weak resolve since you became conscious. You have fed them and you have starved them, you have lost some battles you have won many others, this is not a fight that simply ends, this a constant state of balance.
A shit test is nothing more than attempt to rattle the cage and take a look at them. No one but you should be able to sever the chains and free them. Your demons are none of their business. Know yourself and really get to know your dark side. It is beautiful.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just described my lifetime inner turmoil beautifully.
[–]Senior Contributoradam-l3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
"Yes" - "No" - "Maybe".
Women need around 7 milliseconds to classify you in one of those three categories. If you are being shit-tested, you are in the "maybe" category. You can oblige to address her shit tests in pursuit of a lay. Just make a mental note never to enter into a LTR with that girl.
edit: spelling. thanx benzo;)
[–]Thesegates 2 points2 points2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I do remember reading a similar concept of classification in Models, by Mark Manson even though I know he doesn't believe in TRP, he said something very similar.
You're totally right about the LTR portion also, the maybe bitches won't be holding on for dear life like the "yes, you're my God," girls.
[–]benzostruggle5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
It is either "hell yeah!" or "no".
If you deal with "maybes" you just end up chasing; shit-tests are just ways to decide how far they can toy with you.
I don't do being toyed with, it is disrespectful.
[–]larrythetomato0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The idea for Models is to force the maybe's into the hell yeah or hell no category quickly. By using heavily polarising (true) statements such as something like "I'm a serious furry" (guy who dresses like a mascot). You will turn off most women, but the few women who aren't turned off will be really turned on (either, hell yeah, or hell no).
For your example "I don't do being toyed with, it is disrespectful". You would say, or imply, that you don't accept being disrespected. Either the girls will instantly stop their games and be really attracted to you, or they will be turned off at your pussyness/buzzkill attititude.
[–]benzostruggle0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes polarize them hardcore to force them into one of two categories: Yes or no. This simplifies things a lot and stops wasting time.
classify; oblige; address; pursuit.
Other than that, I agree.
[–]1favours_of_the_moon1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
My test for her is if she sucks a good dick.
[–]Ezekgaraq4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mine, I normally shift to a topic that requires actual rational reasoning ( not some feminist SJW type), could be from Politics, to Religion and Science. Trust me a stupid girl will know her place in seconds...
Then we move to other bases :)
[–]1jcromero3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mine is if she can cook, talk about my interests, is taller than 5'4 but shorter than 6', thin waist, big butt, and lets me anger-fuck her when I'm having a bad day.
[–]Rasalom72[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Except you forgot the rule about "DON'T STICK YOUR DICK IN CRAZY (not even in the mouth).
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When I'm on a first or second date with a girl, and the shit tests are getting to the point that I am losing the energy to combat them, one of my recent go to responses has been just laughing at whatever bullshit they say/ask and just staring them dead in the eye without giving them any response. Preferably while I take a drink, so they think I just might say something when I'm done drinking. Then when I set the glass down, continue smirk stare, and don't say a thing.
They will generally break the silence with something like "Well?" or "I guess that's a no/yes" if it was a question. I just respond with something like "Well what do you think?", "Believe what you will", or "No comment." If it was some kind of neg they threw at you, your smirk and stare will get their hamster running on overdrive. You really didn't even address whatever it is they said here, but you have completely flipped the situation back around on them and they will surely try to hamster their way out of it and it's cute as hell.
That's really all you have to do is show that you are happy and unaffected. You don't have to say a damn thing if you don't want. Ignore it, change subject. Just don't let it look like she phased you. AKA holding frame.
Side note: I once had a girl just stare back at me for a good 20 seconds without saying a word. 20 seconds is a pretty long fucking time to have a stare-off, and it felt like an eternity, but when she finally broke the stare, it was absolutely game over for the rest of the night. She had surrendered.
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[–]FrameWalker0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't fear the shit test. It's an opportunity to showcase your masculinity. Show her your confidence and self mastery. Some girls are a royal pain sure, but many love being trained. You can go from rolling eyes and snarky remarks to yes sir and daddy please give me more.
[–]jnsu_0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
if an ltr would start doing this would that means she cheated and is trying to break my frame/make me the bad guy for loosing frame so she can leave not guilty and blame it on me? I'm in a situation like this
[–]2kez880 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Shit tests really aren't a bad thing. You want her to be shit testing you. It means shes trying to see what you're really like, and whether you'd be a good mate with her. Know who she doesn't shit test? The beta at the bar who she hasn't even noticed, her oribiters and other guys shes never ever going to fuck. Welcome the shit tests, pass them, and then bang her brains out
[–]Thesegates 3 points3 points3 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I agree, but I've also fucked countless girls after meeting them that day and wasn't shit tested once. Maybe some LMR, but not any shit tests. I think it depends more on personality and life experience of the girl than anything.
[–]2kez880 points1 point2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I definitely don't think its a hard rule or law or anything, just something that can tend to happen. It's possible you didn't notice any they gave you, or you interacted in a way that means they didnt need to give you any. Obviously the proof is in the pudding that you did something right.
[–]Thaweed0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what do all these shortings mean?
LMR, SMV, ...
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