True SMV vs. Perceived SMV

RedSunBlue · 2014-02-14T05:30:58+00:00

Perceived SMV is the only SMV.

Whatever I think I'm worth does not matter if no one else is buying.

rapreaper · 2014-02-14T06:57:58+00:00

It is very important to raise your true SMV because if you are not doing well enough, it is difficult to constantly fake a much higher SMV. People with ok confidence find it easier to fake a higher confidence than people with low self-confidence. So raise your true SMV as high as you can to make it easier to fake a higher SMV or to make it your only SMV. Perceived SMV can become useless the moment the girl sees something that shows your true SMV or you break your frame.

dr_bloodmoney · 2014-02-14T06:08:07+00:00

|Objectively my true SMV is pretty damn low

Well, then get to work. Do what you have to do to get it higher. Why are you even second guessing what a woman thinks if you are making a statement like this? Go to the gym. Go on a 2 hour run. Interview for a better job. Do something to make yourself better. This thinking you are doing is just head games. If I've said it once, I've said it a 1000 times. Take care of yourself. Women are the side effect. True vs. perceived vs. internal....gives me a headache. When your shit is in order, it comes to you.

winnnnnnnnn · 2014-02-14T05:36:15+00:00

Same situation 25 male live at home (never get bothered, and have a huge space to myself. I'm aware of the silver spoon). Pulled 4 new chicks this year one of which was a 5min train interaction. I've got looks, height, style and my inner game is damn near going nuclear. I'm excited. Anyway What your describing is inner game and what most noobs don't realize is that others aren't necessarily seeing you the way you see yourself. Hence the 10 that thinks she's ugly. Or the beta that beats up on himself. Women are very in tuned to energy, subtle communication etc... Almost like blood hounds. I say almost because I'm learning you can warp people's perceptions pretty easily with even some of the most disingenuous stuff. Hence "fake it till you make it". Women are so starved for confident men that you can start doing well almost immediately by just being cocky. Hence the asshole suggestion for noobs. At the end of the day though for men I think it comes down to stagnation and laziness for most noobies this is due to poon deficiency, but when you actually start getting some and realize its not that serious and you notice actual social skills inner game, game awareness etc... increasing you get excited. At least I do. Going from being a pile of nervous on your first approach, to getting 100+ numbers, fucking up a lot getting bolder, to making out 3 times a night, instant physicality as your new default, and a lay here and there 700+ approaches later you go fuck so that's where confidence comes from. Skills and actually just taking risk or living life so to speak, and you apply this to other areas via the positive feed back loop your getting from women and boom self improvement. Its why I picked up objective-c and plan on clocking (2000+ hours by the end of the year). I'll be out of here and I'm gonna fuck tons of bitches on the way because its getting too damn easy. O and mainly because applying yourself just feels right as a man.

trplurker · 2014-02-14T04:58:05+00:00

Yes due to their solipsism women only operate on their perceived reality. Manipulating that perceived reality is all "game" really is.

IllimitableMan · 2014-02-14T13:06:00+00:00

To further elaborate on this topic, I wrote about perceived and actual SMV here:

http://illimitablemen.com/2013/12/13/understanding-social-market-value/

Enjoy.

For all the people saying there is only "perceived SMV"

Actual SMV = what a company is worth in assets/skills (net profit)

Perceived SMV = what the CEO reports on the quarterly financial reports as being the company's assets/skills to the shareholders/markets. (gross profit, growth forecast - potential, manipulated numbers, omission of issues etc)

Not necessarily one and the same, machiavellianism/strong frame can allow you to project higher SMV than you actually have.

A simple one is dressing well. If you have minimal outgoings you can dress above your social class.

lastslicesalami · 2014-02-14T05:16:06+00:00

Its funny, i was just thinking about this a few hours ago. i'm kind of in the same spot: no job, no license, i live with my mom, and i'm 24. I see that I have a shitty True SMV but my attitude and how i carry myself gives me a high Perceived SMV.

I thought that made me a liar of some sort but thats the remnants of blue in me. how does the saying go?

"fake it till you make it"

AveofSpades · 2014-02-14T05:23:31+00:00

Great point, but the question boils down to: Do I want to work for 6's or let 9's throw themselves at me?

Always up your own standard. Push yourself to be better. Women, access, leisure and comfort always follow.

BloodRoseTRP · 2014-02-14T08:59:48+00:00

Perceived and "true" SMV are really one and the same. I like to think of perceived SMV as the initial impression. "true" SMV arises once they become acquainted with your perks and nuances.

Title	True SMV vs. Perceived SMV
Author	Dysentary_Gary
Upvotes	48
Comments	30
Date	February 14, 2014 4:27 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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